MuggleCast 248 Transcript (continued)
Listener Tweets: Future Potter Story Jo Could Write
Andrew: Like I said, we got a lot of responses on Twitter. eldestsonicwand wrote:
"The wedding of Hermione and Ron, and Harry and Ginny."
Eric: Huh. Do you think it was a double wedding?
Andrew: [laughs] No.
Eric: Do you think it happened...
Andrew: I don't think that would be appropriate. maisaguevara wrote:
That's all she wrote.
Andrew: That would be interesting, actually. Thomassholan wrote:
"The encyclopedia and only the encyclopedia. The story is over and any other books telling a story would be done solely for the money."
See, I disagree with that.
Andrew: Maybe Jo is not necessarily doing it for the money but hey, maybe she wants to help out bookstores again. What's wrong with that?
Andrew: I mean, look, Barnes & Noble went under and it's not totally Harry Potter's fault.
Eric: You mean Borders?
Andrew: That's what I said, right? Did I say Barnes & Noble?
Eric: Yeah, Barnes & Noble.
Andrew: Yeah, Borders went under.
Eric: Yeah, Borders totally gone. Well everyday that the Potter books don't exist in e-book format, that's presumably helping book sales, right?
Andrew: Yeah, that's true. So thank you Pottermore for sucking.
Andrew: enfermicevic wrote:
"About founders of Hogwarts."
Eric: That would be interesting.
Andrew: That seems to be a popular one, I think.
Andrew: BarOngles wrote:
"James and Lily at Hogwarts!"
"Not the kids. Way too cheesy. The last year of Voldy's first war? Celebration of Baby Potter? Sirius/James at school?"
Andrew: Lots of good ideas.
Andrew: hayleymeghan wrote:
"Albus Severus and his whole first year at Hogwarts."
"The Marauders' time at Hogwarts."
"How James and Lily got together."
[laughs] Here's a good one. actiongir7 wrote:
"The House-Elf Chronicles."
Andrew: That would be funny. Timeline541 wrote:
"Something from Voldemort's point of view, before he died obviously."
"Prequel, all the way! I want the Marauders' backstory."
So tons of great ideas. I mean, everybody's got their own opinion. There's no clear frontrunner, I would say.
Andrew: But if anybody wants to look at all the responses, you can just go to Twitter.com/MuggleCast - or just go to Twitter.com and do a search for "@MuggleCast" and then you can see all of our @ replies if you want to take a look at all of them.
Eric: Kind of a good poll question to ask.
Andrew: Yeah, definitely. Now, let's go on to Muggle Mail. Micah, do you want to take the first one? The first one of our last year?
Micah: [laughs] You're going to cause problems.
Muggle Mail: Snow in Hogsmeade
Micah: First one comes from Sabrina, 22, of Rostock, Germany and she says:
"I'm Sabrina, 22, from Germany and 2011 has been a very special year for me because I started listening to MuggleCast. You guys are awesome and I love listening to your show on my way to university. While watching 'Deathly Hallows - Part 2' on Christmas Eve (it was a Christmas present, in Germany we get our presents on Christmas Eve)..."
So take that, US.
Micah: She didn't say that.
"...I was wondering why there was so much snow in the Hogsmeade scene. The trio enters Hogsmeade and there is snow everywhere. The weird thing is it's May so why would there be snow at that time of the year? And there is no snow in Hogwarts or in any other scene of the movie. I started thinking about the other Hogsmeade scenes in the other movies and realized that there is always snow when they get there. Seems like they only built a winter set and it just looked weird without snow or something. I just wondered what you guys think about this."
She goes on to say:
"I'm very glad I finally found your podcast! Thank you guys, you help me improve my listening skills in English and as I'll be an English teacher one day you'll definitely be part of my literature classes."
Andrew: Oh cool.
Micah: So that's cool.
Andrew: Yeah, very nice.
Eric: Something to look forward to.
Andrew: I hate to say this answer, but I think it may be true. They wanted to look like the Wizarding World theme park does, so that when you go to the Wizarding World theme park you're like, "Oh, I recognize this from the movie."
Eric: I don't know, I think - considering it's only in the film for like five seconds, I don't think anybody is going to make the connection and be like, "Oh, I got to go to the theme park so I can see that." Because really the only scene in Hogsmeade is they're hiding behind some barrels, so what is it about that that makes it - that they couldn't do it in - because it is springtime, late springtime, heading into summer.
Micah: Yeah. I mean, unless it's just a place that always has snow. I don't know. I mean, is that the case in the books?
Eric: Well, no. I mean - yeah, what you're asking is if Hogsmeade would be...
Andrew: Is like a climate...
Eric: ...constantly enchanted to be snowy because it's picturesque and Christmas-y.
Eric: Which is possible because it could be a movie thing.
Andrew: But what about - let's say that Hogsmeade is at a higher elevation in England as opposed to Hogwarts, so when it rains it's always going to be snow.
Eric: Yeah. I mean, it makes sense except Hogsmeade is like a twenty minute walk from Hogwarts.
Eric: So unless it's like...
Eric: ...uphill on both ways...
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Eric: Yeah, up a hill and in the Alpine Valley of Scotland.
Micah: Well, what's interesting - I mean, I think it's just a movie thing because when they jump off the dragon, they get out of the water, they're freezing cold, and then they Apparate to Hogsmeade. So it would make sense in that case that it would be snowing, or at least have some sort of cold weather out. But then I think you just get confused with the whole time elapsing, because - yeah, the final battle takes place in the spring, but for the point of this movie I think they just only created a set that had snow in it. I mean, I don't really know. It is weird because there's no snow on the grounds of Hogwarts once you get there.
Muggle Mail: Harry's Grandparents
Andrew: Next e-mail comes from Ariane, 23, of Sydney, writing about Harry's grandparents:
"Hey MuggleCast, just wanting to know your thoughts on Harry's grandparents. From reading the book it seems that both sides of grandparents are dead, however James Potter was only 21 when he died! Why do you think they are never mentioned much? Could Harry have gone to live with them?"
Micah: I remember her saying at some point that they just died naturally, that nothing specific happened to them. They weren't killed by Voldemort or Death Eaters or anything like that, but they had passed on both sides by the time Harry had been born.
Andrew: Yeah, I don't see what James's young age at which he died has to do with it. But yeah, I'm sure that would make sense, that they just died of natural causes.
Micah: Yeah, I'm actually looking at it right now. What happened to Harry's grandparents? She said:
"This takes us into more mundane territory. As a writer, it was more interesting plot-wise if Harry was completely alone so I rather ruthlessly disposed of his entire family apart from Aunt Petunia."
"I mean, James and Lily are massively important to the plot, of course, but the grandparents? No. And because I do like my backstory, Petunia and Lily's parents: normal Muggle death. James's parents were elderly, were getting on a little when he was born, which explains the only child, very pampered, had-him-late-in-life-so-he's-an-extra-treasure, as often happens I think. They were old in wizarding terms and they died. They succumbed to a wizarding illness. That's as far as it goes. There's nothing serious or sinister about those deaths. I just needed them out of the way so I killed them."
Muggle Mail: Seventh-Year Students
Andrew: That makes sense. That makes sense. And plus we would never get to see the Dursleys, so come on. I mean, we still would see the Dursleys but probably not as much if Harry were to be living with his grandparents. Next e-mail comes from Sarah, 17, of Nova Scotia, Canada:
"I know if I were to ask her a question I would ask about the state of Hogwarts post-war..."
This was in response to: If you could ask Jo a question, what would it be?
"...specifically what happened with the students who were in their seventh and final year at Hogwarts. I've been wondering lately about the trip since they didn't even go to Hogwarts for their final year. How about you guys?"
Eric: I always felt bad for the - not only the seventh years but the first years. All the people who were there during Snape's rule, that final year, because that was kind of like the year where it's not at all like you would normally get in a year at Hogwarts. No matter what year it is, if it's your first year or your last year there, do you think that they would have had to redo that year to get proper training for everybody? Or - because I mean, every year of Hogwarts is kind of crucial I think in terms of becoming a better wizard. If you were to ruin it with a year of Dark Arts instead, that would be a little weird, wouldn't it?
Eric: I mean, you'd feel like you only got one last year. But then there's the fact that most wizards - or the wizards we heard about don't even attend Hogwarts in their seventh year.
Andrew: Yeah. But why - I mean, he sort of - in Harry, Ron, and Hermione's case they kind of proved themselves. But yeah, the other students, I don't know. It's kind of like that year when Dumbledore canceled the OWLs - or what did they cancel? Final examinations? So it's just - it is a good question. We would have to ask Jo and I don't know if she would give a very satisfactory answer. She couldn't say, "Oh yeah, they all went back again."
Muggle Mail: Fiendfyre & "The Prince's Tale" Scenes
Andrew: So there's actually eight years at Hogwarts [laughs] in the cases of the students who we actually knew? Next e-mail is from Shona, 19, of Baltimore:
"I'm an original listener of the show. MuggleCast first came out before I started high school and I'm halfway through college now! Anyway, I just got around to re-watching 'DH Part 2' so my e-mail is in response to your commentary. First of all, I just wanted to point out to Eric that in the books as well, Fiendfyre is described to take the form of animals."
And then she quotes:
"'Now the fire was mutating, forming a gigantic pack of fiery beasts: Flaming serpents, chimaeras..."
[Andrew attempts to pronounce "chimaeras"]
"...and dragons rose and fell and rose again.' Also, Micah brought up that he remembers hearing somewhere that 'The Prince's Tale' scenes were shot while filming 'HBP'. This was based on an interview with Michael Gambon where he claimed to only have shot King's Cross scenes for this film. I agree with you guys that this seems unlikely. It's possible Gambon just misspoke."
I agree, he probably just misspoke. He had to have.
Muggle Mail: Thank You From Listener
Eric: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make any sense otherwise. And last e-mail - or no, not last e-mail. Next e-mail comes from Layla...
Andrew: It should be.
Eric: ...age 23, [laughs] of LA:
"Hey guys. Long time, first time (smart Andrew)."
I guess she means that you came up with "Long time, first time."
Eric: It's long time listener, first time writer.
"I've been listening to you guys for the longest time with some gaps in the middle due to life taking a strenuous turn. I even remember there being a girl on this podcast! Anyways I just finished listening to your last podcast about a month late and I just felt the urge to write. I'm getting my teaching credential right now and started student teaching about a month ago and wow, was I in for a surprise! I come home drained of life and catching up on the podcast has been the best way for me to unwind and relax, and not think about the million things that are going wrong! Please don't stop! Even if it's once a month! Take care and thanks for the great shows."
Andrew: Glad to hear that, Layla. That's a good Chicken Soup. Glad to hear that, Layla. Happy to help you out. And she's in LA, right next door to me.
Micah: Come say hi to Andrew.
Muggle Mail: Hogwarts Headmasters
Andrew: Yeah. Next e-mail comes from Jon, 17, of Buffalo. Micah, why don't you read that one for us?
Micah: Sure. He says:
"Just a quick question I was thinking about: Who do you think is the headmaster of Hogwarts at the time of the epilogue? It could be McGonagall, but if she's no longer around, is there anyone else we know about who would really be considered for that position? My money's on Professor Flitwick. What do you guys think?"
Eric: Hmm. Do you think it's somebody we know or somebody we don't know?
Andrew: Why would it be Flitwick? I would kind of be disappointed if it were Flitwick. I mean, Flitwick was never a headmaster's right-hand man. I mean, McGonagall seemed to be Dumbledore's right-hand woman, so it made sense for her to be headmaster. But I don't know about Flitwick.
Micah: I don't feel as if that was ever addressed though. I mean, it seemed like it would be a natural question because wasn't Kingsley announced as the Minister of Magic? So it would make sense that there would be somebody who we know would take over that role, but I don't know if she's ever said explicitly who it is.
Eric: Well, in defense of Professor Flitwick, he was Head of House, wasn't he?
Eric: Wasn't he the Head of - was he the Head of Ravenclaw?
Eric: I think it was. So yeah, I mean, if you're the Head of Ravenclaw house, that kind of - I don't know, seems like he would be a shoe in, have your foot in the door for headmaster role. But I don't know, nineteen years later, that's a long time to be teaching at Hogwarts. Twenty-five, twenty-six years, I don't know. I'd get tired of the place if it kept having drama and explosions.
Muggle Mail: Albus Dumbledore
Andrew: Next e-mail is from Mason, 15, of North Carolina:
"Hey, I was just wondering if you guys thought Dumbledore was justified in being so manipulative? Do you think he could have handled certain things in a better way? Thanks guys, you're doing a great job. Keep up the good work."
This is a whole main discussion.
Eric: Please see the episode titled "Pig for Slaughter."
Eric: Episode - God, 109 or something. 117, was it? 117 or 120, something like that. Just after the Book 7 release, we...
Eric: 116, we discussed this in great detail.
Andrew: Lead by Eric, I think.
Micah: Yeah, I think that...
Eric: Supported very well by you guys.
Micah: You guys made the point. We could talk about that for an entire show but I think that's what makes his character so great, is that he was flawed in that respect.
Eric: Yeah, I think we all do think that he could have handled certain things in a better way, but he also handled them in exactly the way that he did and we kind of have to live with that. So...
Muggle Mail: Fluffy
Andrew: Next e-mail is from - the final e-mail is from AurorShield182, 26, of England:
"Was just wondering has JK Rowling ever said in an interview what happened to Fluffy after he was guarding the trapdoor in 'Sorcerer's Stone'."
Eric: They put him down.
Andrew: I doubt that's right.
Eric: I mean, if I had to guess, I'd say that Fluffy...
Andrew: Fluffy was released into the Forbidden Forest.
Micah: Yeah, there you go.
Andrew: And he ran free.
Eric: [laughs] What?!
Eric: [laughs] The Forbidden Forest does not need anymore crazy creatures in it.
Andrew: [laughs] But that's exactly where he belongs.
Eric: Yeah, okay. Better than the zoo.
Eric: But there's got to be - but next to Hogwarts, still, a three-headed dog? That's just one more reason not to wander into the forest.
Andrew: Yeah, but at least we do have an answer, so we know he's hopefully safe there. Them, they are hopefully safe there. Three heads. Micah, could you read our Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul today to wrap up the show?
Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul
Micah: Sure. Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul comes from Anonymous, aged 18, from France, and he or she says:
"Hello MuggleCast, I was seven when my dad started reading 'Sorcerer's Stone' to me, a chapter at a time before bed. I think we read Books 1 to 4 that way and I read the others on my own, excluding the seventh book which my sister and I read aloud to each other so that neither of us would know what happened to Harry before the other one. Of course she later admitted to me she cheated, staying up all night to finish the book before me. I'm sure you get loads of e-mails like this from people about my age saying the same thing but I'm going to say it anyway: For me 'Harry Potter' truly defined my childhood. When I saw the final movie in theaters, I felt not only that it meant the ending of an era, but also the ending of such an definitive part of my childhood and perhaps even my childhood itself. I couldn't have been more wrong. I found out about you guys only this month and I couldn't be more grateful. Listening to your podcast, realize..."
Eric: I realized?
Micah: Yeah, I think. Okay.
"Listening to your podcast, I realized I couldn't have been more wrong in thinking that the end of the movies and the books means the end of 'Harry Potter'. You guys and the millions of other hardcore fans out there all know 'Harry Potter' is here for good. Thanks so much for reminding me of this."
Andrew: Very nice.
Micah: Sorry there's no name.
Andrew: [laughs] I blame the copy and paster.
Announcement: New Game of Thrones Podcast
Andrew: Well, it's been another very exciting show, the first one of 2012. I don't know if you know this, guys, but we're in our seventh year of Harry Potter podcasting.
Eric: Yeah. That's pretty crazy.
Andrew: But coming soon - we're always working on new things. Everybody's like, "Oh, you guys don't put out new episodes anymore."
Andrew: Well, Micah has details about a new Game of Thrones podcast coming up from a couple of people you know on this show and more, right Micah?
Micah: Yeah, absolutely. I think - some people know that we started a website called Game of Owns, a play-off of Game of Thrones obviously, and we're looking to start a podcast in the not-too-distant future and probably going to release its first episode in February. And it's going to focus primarily I think on the TV show, and we'll of course have bits and pieces from the book series but we're going to start with the focus being on the new season of Game of Thrones which is on HBO April 1st. And Eric will be on it, myself, and a few other people that we're working on the site with. So look forward to doing that and hopefully you guys are either fans or will become fans of the series as a result. So it should be a lot of fun.
Andrew: Yeah, absolutely.
Eric: Cool. Oh, I also...
Micah: And we're working with Selina who works over on Hypable.
Andrew: She does the Game of Thrones news for us.
Micah: She does the Game of Thrones stuff, so yeah, there you go.
Micah: So it'll be a joint venture.
Announcement: Mischief Managed at Ascendio 2012
Eric: Also, it's interesting that for the Favorites segment, people - Micah and I both felt that we'd like to hear more about the Marauders. There's an upcoming musical that's going to premiere at Ascendio in July. For those of you who are attending Ascendio, this musical is called Mischief Managed and it's about Harry's children finding the journals of James Potter and Sirius Black - their school journals, like their unknown school journals - and learning about what it was like when James and Sirius and Peter and Remus were at Hogwarts. It's going to be a musical, and actually I happened to audition for the musical and I secured the role of James Potter. So...
Eric: Thank you! I'm so excited! It's a really good musical. I just read the script last night actually, and it's super exciting. It's going to be a lot of fun. But that's happening at Ascendio down at the Loews Portofino Bay Resort in July.
Eric: Just FYI.
Andrew: All right...
Micah: We'll have all the details on what conventions we'll be attending this summer probably...
Andrew: In a couple of months.
Micah: ...in the next month or two. Yeah.
Andrew: So check out MuggleCast.com. It has all the information you need about the show. You can click on the "Episodes" link at the top to get information about this and every other episode we have ever released in our seven years.
Andrew: You'll also find links to our Twitter which is Twitter.com/MuggleCast, our Facebook which is Facebook.com/MuggleCast, and our fan Tumblr which is MuggleCast.Tumblr.com. Still has too many Eric pictures for my liking, but that's okay.
Eric: Yeah, yeah, I...
Andrew: Actually, it has been more balanced out.
[Show music begins]
Andrew: It has been more balanced out. [laughs] I'm completely kidding.
Eric: [laughs] No, that's fine.
Andrew: Yeah, and that is that. So thanks everybody for listening! From Hypable.com, I'm Andrew Sims.
Eric: From MuggleNet.com, I'm Eric Scull.
Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
Andrew: See everyone next time for Episode 249! Goodbye!
Eric: It's time to start planning 250, shouldn't we?
Andrew: That's kind of a big episode.
[Show music continues]
Blooper: Micah's Confession
Micah: The real reason is that's the song I got a lap dance to at my friend's bachelor party. [laughs] But...
Andrew: Oh my God! [laughs]
Micah: That's the part... [laughs]
Eric: Oh, you can't say that on the show!
Micah: What? No, you can cut that out.
Blooper: Party Buses
Micah: In New York City.
Andrew: Wow, that's cool.
Eric: Were you buckled?
Andrew: That's pretty cool.
Eric: Was she buckled?
Andrew: No, you don't buckle up at a party bus!
Eric: It's the law! Click it or ticket!
Andrew: Okay, let's...
Andrew: Yeah, they clicked.
Micah: We'll talk about this after.
Andrew: They clicked, all right.
Eric: There's a blooper.
Written by: The Transcribers