MuggleCast 250 Transcript
["Hedwig's Theme" plays]
Andrew: Because we would even read a book by Jo about sixteenth century basket-making, this is MuggleCast Episode 250 for March 2nd, 2012.
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Andrew: Well, for the...
Andrew: ...250th time...
Andrew: ...welcome to MuggleCast. It is a landmark episode.
Andrew: A landmark podcast.
Andrew: A - it's a huge, momentous occasion. And here to celebrate with us is Ben Schoen.
Andrew: [laughs] Returning after a long while. He's feeling very nostalgic, he's wearing his MuggleCast 2006 Lumos shirt.
Ben: Yeah, just for the show, man.
Andrew: But then...
Eric: Oh man, the grey one?
Andrew and Ben: Yeah.
Eric: Awww, I missed that shirt.
Andrew: I was really touched and then I realized his whole wardrobe is MuggleCast shirts.
Micah: Does it still fit you?
Ben: Yeah, it's all I wear. Yeah, it still fits me! What are you trying to say?
Eric: What are you insinuating?
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Ben: What's the insinuation?
Micah: No, I'm just saying you're a little bit older now, though. You grew a little taller since then.
Andrew: Yeah, it has been six years.
Andrew: It's been a while.
Ben: Whereas I used to fill it - now I fill it out with solid, lean body mass.
Andrew: Right. [laughs] Check out Ben's body on Twitter.com/benschoen.
Ben: "Ben's body."
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Ben: It's the new Twitter account.
Andrew: [laughs] I do not want to see that. Anyway, Micah, Eric, and I are here. We were also supposed to have one other host but this person...
Ben: She bailed.
Andrew: Bailed, yeah.
Ben: She bailed.
Andrew: I wasn't even going to reveal the gender but...
Micah: Well, that automatically...
Andrew: ...that's okay.
Micah: ...narrows it down to one person.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: Yeah, Laura.
Eric: It's very narrow.
Andrew: Laura is in Costa Rica. There's time confusion, that may have been what's happening. But we'll get her on a different episode.
Eric: There's also a language barrier. I don't know.
Eric: Costa Rica.
Andrew: Yeah, she said - she e-mailed me last night. She was like, "I'm going to be speaking Spanish the whole time." I'm like, [takes a deep breath] "No, you're not."
Ben: We tried to call in some translators and all that, but...
Andrew: That's what I said to her, I said we'd have a translator on the show.
Ben: ...we couldn't get any arranged in time.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: Yeah. So we had differences we couldn't sort out, so that's why...
Eric: Although - also...
Ben: She was un-reconciling.
Eric: ...we should clarify about the red-head that we promised last episode.
Eric: Ben, you've dyed your hair red recently?
Ben: Yeah, this is true.
Ben: This is true.
Eric: Is it - brings out your Irish heritage.
Andrew: So that's the surprise guest.
Ben: And Eric shaved his head lately.
Eric: You're Ben O'Schoen, is that you?
Ben: Ben O'Schoeno.
Episode 250 Milestone
Andrew: Well, yeah. I mean, so congrats, everybody, on 250 episodes. Especially you, Ben. I mean, you've been tirelessly working through all the episodes. You above anyone...
Ben: I know. For the record - for some of those new listeners, if you go way back in the day I used to be on this show quite a lot.
Andrew: Yeah, you did.
Ben: And I used to be a big contributor to the show.
Andrew: [laughs] So what happened?
Ben: What happened? I don't know, man.
Eric: Well, Ben, you're still a big contributor to the show.
Ben: I got a little bit Potter-ed out over the years, but I'm here. I still like to come on the show. I like to talk about Harry Potter. I love podcasting with you guys.
Andrew: Of course!
Ben: We've been doing this for years. 250 episodes.
Ben: You think we'll make it to 500, bro?
Andrew: Hmm, I don't know, that's hard to say. Unless we turn the podcast into something greater because J.K. Rowling has a new book.
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News: J.K. Rowling's New Book
Eric: [gasps] What?
Andrew: And that leads us into the news this week.
Micah: Andrew, what's in the news this week?
Andrew: Well, Micah, J.K. Rowling announced a new book. Evidently, if we are to believe the giant graphic that was on her agent's website, we are to believe it's called The New Book.
Andrew: Which was very insulting to everybody who saw it.
Andrew: Well, insulting in that it's - I don't know, was it a joke? What did this...
Eric: Is it...
Andrew: Why have a graphic that says "The New Book"? [laughs]
Eric: The New Book by J.K. Rowling. They just wanted something to - already it's got feet, marketing feet, and already it's walking away, running around the world selling itself.
Ben: As of right now, as The New Book. When I first heard this news, and when I heard the amount of information that was released, the first thing that popped into my head was, "Oh, here we go again! J.K. Rowling with her..."
Ben: Her little bit at a time. We'll just give them a little bit of information at a time. We get them up at 4:00 AM to tell them that we're going to release something in nine months.
Ben: With Pottermore.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Ben: So I mean, this is - but she has the right to do that.
Andrew: She can do it, yeah.
Ben: And she has the - she's not some no-name nobody. I don't think Stephenie Meyer could pull this off.
Andrew: Oh, whoa, whoa. I don't know. She - I mean - well, let's go through it. Let's go through it.
Eric: Yeah, so what news is there?
Andrew: So it started very early in the morning. The Blair Partnership, which is her new - the new company she's represented by. It used to be Christopher Little. She left Christopher Little. A little drama there, I think, but we don't know the details anyway, [in a bad British accent] the Blair Partnership. [normal voice] And they updated their website which read, [in a bad British accent] "We are pleased to announce that our client, J.K. Rowling, will be releasing a new novel for adults. Further details will be announced later in the year. The Blair Partnership is a literary agency. We are in the business of taking care of authors, their talent, their careers, and their success."
Ben: What accent is that?
Andrew: It's a mix of nonsense.
Ben: It was like Scandinavian...
Ben: ...half Borat...
Micah: [laughs] Half Borat?
Andrew: It's bad. [laughs] So yeah, the Blair Partnership announced this. Like I said, there was the graphic that said "The New Book."
Micah: Is that like the New Testament?
Ben: Yeah! That's a good one, Micah. I like that.
Andrew: So Harry Potter is now the Old Testament, huh? Great.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: More religious comparisons.
Ben: And this book isn't going to be published by Scholastic.
Ben: Or Bloomsbury.
Andrew: Right. The new partner - the new publisher is Little, Brown who published the Twilight books. So...
Eric: That's the last thing we need, is a Twilight-esque cover for the new J.K. Rowling book.
Ben: Oh yeah, these Twilight publishers are just going to screw it all up.
Eric: No, I mean, just high contrast, one object. Those publishers make those kinds of decisions and - I don't know.
Andrew: And J.K. Rowling's official statement was, "Although I've enjoyed writing it every bit as much, my next book will be very different to the Harry Potter series, which has been published so brilliantly by Bloomsbury and my other publishers around the world. The freedom to explore new territory is a gift that Harry's success has brought me, and with that new territory it seemed a logical progression to have a new publisher. I am delighted to have a second publishing home in Little, Brown, and a publishing team that will be a great partner in this new phase of my writing life."
Ben: Yeah, she's like, "Scholastic, I've made you rich enough."
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Ben: "I'm going to make somebody else rich." In general, the expectations for this - people - I mean, obviously, commercially, whatever this book is, the fact that it has her name on it is going to - it's going to sell a bazillion copies and people are going to line up at the bookstores, people are going to be stoked for it. Now - but in terms of what to expect, isn't that kind of like the equivalent of if Zuckerberg - Mark Zuckerberg, the creator of Facebook - was to make a new tech project in the future, asking if we were to expect that to have as big of an impact as Facebook? Isn't that like kind of the same thing with J.K. Rowling's new book?
Ben: To me, it almost seems like we're going to be disappointed.
Ben: There's no way we're not going to be disappointed given just what we've come to expect from J.K. Rowling.
Micah: I don't...
Eric: I'm surprised - so it's been five years since the publication of the seventh Harry Potter book. I'm surprised that the announcement that came wasn't, "Oh yeah, by the way, I wrote this book. It's been published for over a year, and it's this book that she wrote under a pen name or something."
Eric: Because J.K. Rowling does seem to have that problem where if she were to write a new book, she couldn't be secret about it and it may get this - not unjust attention, but it may get attention based on other merits.
Eric: I think we're all very interested in seeing what...
Eric: ...the next book she writes just because it's her.
Micah: See, the problem that I have with that is - and I guess I understand why authors do it, but she's already established herself. She took the chance, she wrote Harry Potter, became this tremendous success. Why would you want to write under any other name moving forward?
Eric: Right. Well, really it's just for the crowd control aspect of it, I think.
Andrew: Yeah, to avoid that pressure of the Harry Potter...
Eric: Yeah. Not only the pressure but people - I mean, I don't know. Why did Stephen King do it? He wrote as Richard Bachman for a couple of - and I don't think the reasons are that great because ultimately, you've got to stand by who you are, I think, public image or not public image. And so J.K. Rowling isn't writing under an alias, her announcement was that there's a new book from her coming out, so that's good.
Andrew: And I think she could do that in the future, write under a pen name, but not for her first post Potter project.
Andrew: I think that's too soon.
Ben: Well - and particularly from a commercial standpoint...
Andrew: Yeah, they...
Ben: They're just saying this is going to be - particularly if this book isn't that great or something. This is going to be the most successful post Potter work that she does.
Andrew: Yeah. And you know Little, Brown - whatever publisher was going to win the rights to this, they wanted to say, "This is J.K. Rowling's first post Potter project," because it's going to sell like crazy. But I admit that it's going to be hard for me to pick up this book and read it and be like - I want to read more fantasy from J.K. Rowling, so I would be disappointed if I'm reading it and there isn't any sort of magic or fantasy.
Andrew: Anything in fantasy. I just want something related to fantasy.
Eric: So this is my main question, and I think it could - I mean, a lot of topics about this could be a main discussion for a show. But my question is what does it mean - there's two little words in this press release from Little, Brown, and it says, "Our client, J.K. Rowling, will be releasing a new novel for adults." What does that mean, "for adults"? What is...
Andrew: It means...
Micah: It means there's more adult-appropriate material.
Eric: Oh okay, more adult - does this mean sex? Does this mean drug use? Does this mean lesser themes? Does it mean it won't be a fantasy? Does it mean - what does that - what can we make of releasing a new novel for adults?
Andrew: I think...
Ben: For adults, I would say - books like Twilight, Harry Potter, The Hunger Games...
Eric: But Twilight is young adult.
Ben: Those are young adult.
Eric: We have to be specific, young adults.
Ben: No, that's what I'm saying, is that - whereas those books are for young adults, whereas - what's the name of that guy who did Game of Thrones? H.R.R.Z.Y...
Andrew: George R.R. Martin.
Eric: ...that's the one.
Eric: That's the one. [laughs]
Ben: Okay yeah, George R.R. Martin. Yeah. Game of Thrones, those books are for adults and I would say - I would expect to see a higher level of writing from J.K. Rowling...
Ben: ...if she's saying this book is for adults. Would you guys agree?
Andrew: I would agree.
Eric: Well, higher level of writing or just more adult characters?
Ben: I would say a higher level of writing. Well, I mean, a more sophisticated writing style.
Eric: Because I mean, she improved her writing technique through every Harry Potter book. There's no...
Ben: Yeah, but they're still written for young adults.
Eric: I mean, essentially the narrator will be different.
Ben: If you were to go read a George R.R. Martin book, it's going to be more complex and not as easily readable to a young adult as it would be to an adult.
Eric: But I think part of J.K. Rowling's appeal was how readable her writing was for everybody to begin with, which is - why, do you think this writing - the books - are you saying the books will be written in a more - a less accessible way? Where it's just kind of confusing or drolls on?
Ben: Not confusing.
Eric: Less interesting?
Ben: Or that it drolls on. Or that it would be less interesting. I would just say that it's going to not be as light.
Andrew: In short, I think it's not going to be as marketable to children. It's not going to be topics or themes that you could sell to a kid and a kid's going to be interested in.
Micah: Yeah. But the other thing to realize...
Ben: Yeah. Well, the good news is that her audience has grown up with the books.
Micah: Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say, is that...
Ben: I knew that, Micah, so I stole it from you.
Micah: Yeah, you stole it. You just ripped it right out of my hands. No, I agree with what you're saying. I think that the audience is older now, and they are more easily able to understand adult themes. And - not to say that kids can't or young adults can't, but I think - she probably has a lot more freedom, too, in writing this book, where maybe she was a bit more restricted with Potter in terms of the kind of things that she could put in there.
Andrew: Though you can also bring up the point that the Harry Potter books were very long, and by most standards, you do not write long books for children. And that's one of the reasons why they've always never been considered children's books, at least the last few.
Eric: By the people reading them, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah. Now, there have been some clues suggesting what J.K. Rowling will be writing, and it seems it could be in the mystery/crime drama. The Guardian rounded up a few details about - why they think it could be thriller/crime. For one, the editor at Little, Brown that she is working with. He is David Shelley, "a man who counts Dennis Lehane, Val McDermid, Carl Hiaasen, and Mark Billingham amongst his authors and who comes from a background steeped in crime and thriller writing. And now he's going to be editing J.K. Rowling's book." He's also reportedly brought out the best in various thriller writers: Panic by Jeff Abbott, The Shakespeare Secret by J.L. Carrell, The Brutal Art by Jesse Kellerman. He's taken over editing for major brand-name authors including Billingham, Nelson DeMille, and Duncan Falconer.
Micah: Oh, Nelson DeMille, interesting.
Andrew: What did he write?
Micah: He writes a lot of those types of books. I have a lot of them, actually.
Micah: Like thrillers.
Andrew: And Ian Rankin, a known neighbor of J.K. Rowling, jokingly tweeted that, "Wouldn't it be funny if J.K. Rowling's first novel for adults turned out to be a crime story set in Edinburgh? My word, yes."
Micah: Law & Order [unintelligible]
Andrew: He's a crime writer. So those were some hints, but again, none of this is confirmation. I would say that's a good guess, though.
Ben: And she said there's more information to come later this year, right?
Andrew: Yes, and...
Eric: Well, hang on, did she tweet this? [laughs]
Andrew: No, the Blair Partnership said more information to come later this year, and then J.K. Rowling later in the day tweeted herself that the book will be out later this year.
Ben: Oh really?
Andrew: And that was the first confirmation that it was actually going to come out this year.
Ben: Oh damn.
Andrew: So later this year.
Eric: Damn indeed, Ben.
Ben: That's really exciting.
Andrew: Yeah, it is.
Ben: That's really exciting because that'll be the first fiction novel I've read since...
Andrew: Harry Potter?
Ben: ...Harry Potter.
Andrew: [laughs] You mean you haven't read The Hunger Games yet?
Ben: I haven't read The Hunger Games. I know I'm going to get...
Eric: Ben, neither have I.
Ben: ...massacred but...
Eric: Ben, we should read it together.
Ben: Yeah, I'm open to reading The Hunger Games. Yeah, I don't think they're going to make this a series.
Andrew: Really? Now, see, that disappoints me. I would love another J.K. Rowling series.
Ben: Well - I mean, I think if she's going to make it a series, she's going to come up front and say this will be a trilogy.
Ben: I don't think she would do more than a trilogy, because she's not going to want to mess around with - another seven books? Yeah right.
Eric: Yeah. [laughs]
Ben: The pressure of producing another novel - maybe she just wants to write a standalone story and do it all in one go this time.
Eric: I'd love to see her do it.
Andrew: I'm sure she'll do that at some point, but not right now.
Eric: Yeah, a standalone story. I'd like to see that from her.
Andrew: Joining us now is Laura. Hello, Laura. Thanks for joining us.
Laura: Hi, guys! How are you?
Andrew: Good. You got out of class late, I understand?
Laura: Yeah, I'm a really mean teacher. Kept my students late.
Andrew: Can you believe this? Laura Thompson, now a teacher.
Ben: Hola. Hola, Laura.
Micah: You kept them until 9:00 at night?
Ben: Hola, Laura. Como estas?
Laura: It's an hour behind you, actually.
Micah: 8:00 at night?
Laura: So - yeah. Well, the class goes until 7:45, and it wasn't really my fault, they were asking questions, so they were kind of the ones who held me up.
Micah: Do you teach college?
Laura: I teach elementary and college...
Laura: ...actually, so yeah.
Ben: It's all grouped together down there.
Andrew: In Costa Rica. Laura is in Costa Rica...
Micah: Can we stay in your bungalow?
Laura: I don't live in a bungalow, Micah. I live in a mud hut. I would expect you to know this by now.
Andrew: [laughs] Anyway - but seriously, Laura. So you're in Costa Rica now. What motivated you to move down there and teach? I mean, that's a wonderful thing.
Laura: Well, you remember, Andrew. I came down here to study abroad two years ago, and...
Laura: ...that's why...
Micah: Time flies.
Laura: It's kind of why I stopped being on MuggleCast, [laughs] partly, because at the time I had no Internet. And I just loved it here so much that I wanted to come back and, really, if you're a native English speaker, [laughs] the only kind of job you can get here is teaching. So, that's how it happened.
Andrew: Nice, nice.
Andrew: So, what do you think of J.K. Rowling's new book announcement? Does this excite you?
Eric: Have you heard about it?
Laura: [laughs] No. I mean, we don't get news down here.
Laura: I mean, the fact that I have Internet is just absolutely amazing.
Micah: Well, you just said you...
Eric: [laughs] News comes by sparrow, right?
Eric: Sparrows delivering the news?
Laura: No, no, by toucan.
Andrew: Caw! Caw! Rowling!
Laura: We don't have sparrows down here.
Andrew: [laughs] Toucan.
Micah: Well, you just said you brought Internet to Costa Rica.
Andrew: So what do you and the toucan think of J.K. Rowling's new book?
Laura: We're pretty freakin' excited. We don't know that much about it unless you guys have gotten some news that we haven't gotten down here, but there was...
Ben: It's coming out later this year, Laura. Did you know that?
Andrew: Duh, Ben.
Ben: Well, I didn't know - she said she didn't have much news about it...
Laura: No, but...
Ben: ...so I was making sure she had the details.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: There really isn't, though, is there?
Andrew: No, there's not.
Laura: It's just it's coming out this year, and it's an adult novel now.
Ben: Yeah, yet we find a way to spend a half hour talking about it. How awesome are we?
Andrew: Because again, there's...
Eric: Micah thinks it's going to be a contender for the New Testament, actually.
Eric: [laughs] Is what he said earlier.
Andrew: [laughs] Because it's called "The New Book," off of the Blair Partnership's website.
Laura: Well, I have a question: I mean, has there been any discussion about what kind of genre we're talking about? Or have you guys already spent eight million years?
Andrew: It's rumored - yeah, a little bit. It's rumored to be a crime/thriller, based on evidence that her editor at Little, Brown has a ton of experience in the crime and thriller genre. So, rumor has it that that fact alone is playing a big hint as to what the genre will be.
Ben: What if it flops?
Andrew: That's completely possible.
Laura: You think?
Andrew: That's completely possible!
Eric: Is it?
Eric: Is it really?
Ben: I mean, I think it can flop from the standpoint of The New York Times, The LA Times, the major newspapers and publications...
Eric: I completely disagree.
Ben: ...doing negative reviews about it...
Eric: I don't...
Ben: ...and saying that J.K. Rowling's new work is a miss. But I don't - it's definitely not going to flop from a commercial standpoint and in terms of the way the fans view it. I think the fans are going to love it. I think she could scribble on a piece of paper and call it her new novel, and...
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Ben: ...most fans would love it...
Ben: ...because there's such a...
Andrew: It's new.
Ben: ...great affinity for J.K. Rowling.
Laura: Oh definitely. She could put out a book about fifteenth century basket-weaving...
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Laura: ...and everybody would just be head over heels.
Eric: I would be all over that [censored]. I'd have BasketCast...
Laura: [laughs] BasketCast.
Eric: ...I'd be hosting that podcast, talking about it. I'm telling you - but I'm thinking...
Ben: Eric is a basket case.
Eric: Yeah. No, no, no...
Ben: That would be perfect. You should host that show.
Eric: No, I would love - because I would feel educated because J.K. Rowling has that authority over me. I look to her to learn new things. But I'm saying the way they're going to - they're already - and we talked about this earlier, Laura - is they're already marketing this book, such as with that image that accompanied the news article which is "The New Book by J.K. Rowling." It's already this huge shroud of mystery and marketing, and no doubt - we were even talking about this - the new publishing company is going to market this book as the next book by J.K. Rowling. Following post Potter, after a seven-year series, this is the next book by Harry Potter. So I really don't think they're going to let it fail in any way. Like financially? Never.
Eric: But I think what it will come down to is whether or not fans or people who have read Harry Potter - you know, us, read us, the ones who are now adults - whether or not we like the story.
Andrew: So, I mean, there's so much to look forward to over the next few months. [laughs] We have the title, we have summaries, we have covers...
Micah: Okay, can I throw this out there? What do you think will happen first? Pottermore open to the public...
Micah: ...or the book being released?
Andrew: I think they're just going to shut down Pottermore and get to work on the next interactive website for this new book. [laughs]
Laura: Oh God.
Micah: I mean, how bad - just as an aside, how bad must these people feel that have been waiting now since - October? Was that when it was supposed to be?
Andrew: Yeah, and I mean J.K. Rowling's probably whole grand plan was to get Pottermore out of the way [laughs] and move on to the new book.
Eric: And then move forward. And she couldn't do that, yeah. Well, we'll hear from some disgruntled Pottermore-ites later in the show.
Andrew: But - yeah, and I'm looking forward to midnight release parties...
Eric: Oh yeah.
Andrew: ...I'm looking forward to...
Laura: Oh heck, yeah.
Andrew: I mean, we could easily turn - if this book is a three-part series, we could easily turn MuggleCast into a joint Harry Potter and new book podcast.
Andrew: Or obviously, if it's just one book we're going to have a whole episode dedicated to reviewing it.
Eric: For sure.
Andrew: Yeah, so...
Micah: We could go chapter-by-chapter.
Andrew: Yeah. And also, I would like...
Ben: We should go...
Ben and Micah: Word-by-word.
Ben: On the new book.
Andrew: [laughs] I'd also like to announce NewBookCon 2015.
Andrew: This is going to be a conference dedicated - forget Harry Potter, that was so 2012. NewBookCon '15 will feature lots of literary discussions, podcasts, and orgies, all focused on...
Andrew: ...the new book from J.K. Rowling.
Eric: Orgies? Is that...
Laura: Is that going to be at the...
Eric: Are you using the right word?
Andrew: Oh yes.
Laura: [laughs] Is that going to be at the "New Book" theme park in Orlando?
Andrew: But speaking of that kind of thing, there's definitely going to be a TV show or movie based around it. No doubt!
Eric: Yeah, if it's...
Andrew: A studio is already clamoring to get the rights for the movie.
Eric: I was going to say, if it's a crime drama, or if it's something like that, that would definitely be adapted into a hundred other formats.
Micah: I would say David Heyman probably has first dibs, though, if...
Andrew: Yeah, I would think so.
Eric: Well - although, J.K. Rowling is not going with Bloomsbury or Scholastic, and those are people - relationships she's built.
Andrew: That's true.
Micah: She's already made them enough money.
Andrew: Well, can't the same be said [laughs] about David Heyman and Warner Bros.?
Micah: [laughs] Well, that's true.
Ben: Sources have confirmed that David Heyman and J.K. Rowling were being a little flirtatious...
Ben: ...at an after party...
Ben: ...last week.
Andrew: Last week?
Andrew: Hmm. So David Heyman's a player to get those scripts, huh?
Eric: Those - yeah, the movie rights, sure. That sounds like the David Heyman we all know.
Andrew: Well, this news pushed J.K. Rowling over a million followers on Twitter...
Andrew: ...one of which is not Micah Tannenbaum. As we remember on MuggleCast Episode 249, Micah was so upset at J.K. Rowling...
Ben: He un-followed her?
Andrew: Un-followed her, can you believe that?
Micah: [laughs] I un-followed her, yeah.
Ben: Why are you un-following Jo?
Micah: See, but I un-follow her and then a week...
Laura: Why would you bother, though? I only un-follow people who spam my Twitter feed.
Andrew: [laughs] Right!
Andrew: Micah did it for the opposite reason.
Eric: J.K. Rowling did the opposite.
Eric: Laura, Laura, to you, J.K. Rowling is like - to you, Laura, J.K. Rowling is like the agreeable neighbor, right? [laughs] Or the agreeable tenant. Never hear a peep from them, always turns in the rent on time.
Laura: [laughs] Yeah.
Ben: Was that a part of that segment Micah used to do called "What's Bugging Micah?" Does he still do that?
Andrew: It was - it wasn't explicitly a "What's Bugging Micah?" but on the last episode or two episodes ago, he voiced his concern and he un-followed her. Because I mean, he's right. She doesn't tweet anything interesting, so why bother following her?
Ben: That's true.
Micah: And then look what happened. A week later...
Eric: She did this to spite you.
Ben: That's true.
Micah: ...she announces that she's got a new book.
Andrew: Yeah. Some people in the Hypable comments speculated that she did it just for you. So...
Micah: Yeah, well...
Andrew: You should feel very lucky.
Micah: And no, I'm not going to start following her again, because [laughs] as I said on the last episode, when she makes these types of announcements they tend to...
Andrew: Appear elsewhere.
Micah: ...get picked up by media outlets and even reach faraway places that Laura lives, where toucans have to deliver the mail.
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