MuggleCast 250 Transcript (continued)
News: Emma Watson to Star in Guillermo del Toro's Beauty and the Beast
Andrew: The news that got Ben excited: Emma Watson is going to - is pretty much set to star in Guillermo del Toro's Beauty and the Beast, a live-action version. Emma Watson would, of course, play Beauty. Belle. The princess.
Eric: What's funny is I actually...
Laura: I think she'll be perfect for that, actually.
Eric: You do?
Eric: Why, because she's so French, right?
Laura: Well - oh, you mean like Belle in the Disney version was?
Andrew: The Disney character? [laughs]
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Eric: Oh. Oh, oh, I get it. It's double...
Eric: Oh okay. I got it, I got it. Okay. Well, I'm just saying - okay.
Micah: Add the French to the list.
Eric: I think if they're going to do something, they should do it right. They should do something definitive. It's an old French legend, they should cast a French audience for it. That's just my thought. Although, just - not three hours ago, I watched the Beauty and the Beast episode of Once Upon a Time, which I thought was pretty cool, and that had Emilie de Ravin as Belle and she's Australian. So, who knows.
Andrew: So many different Belles.
Laura: Well, and...
Eric: So many different Belles. Do they really need a live adaptation of...
Andrew: Well, fantasy is in. And princesses - and by the way, there are two Beauty and the Beast television shows in the works, one for CW and one for ABC. So Beauty and the Beast is in right now. Get on that, yo. In related news, for Guillermo del Toro's film, the part of Mrs. Potts will be played by Julie Walters, which I thought was very fitting.
Laura: Oh, that's perfect!
Eric: Didn't she voice Mrs. Potts in the Disney version? [laughs] I feel like she did.
Andrew: That's actually a complete joke.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: That's not true at all!
Eric: Oh. Well...
Andrew: Just on Molly Weasley, Mrs. Potts, kind of similar. Guess that didn't go over well.
Laura: No, that kind of went over like a lead balloon.
News: First Look at Harry Potter: Wizard's Collection
Andrew: Okay. And finally, in the news this week, we talked about the - we mentioned the Ultimate Editions earlier in the program. But what's better than ultimate? Definitive.
Andrew: And we talked about the Harry Potter: Definitive Collection. It was announced last year with the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 DVD, saying it would come out in 2012. Apparently, it has a new name! The Wizard's Collection, with a huge box, feature set, and price tag. This baby's going to cost you $500 retail.
Ben: Rip off!
Andrew: Amazon is offering a [laughs] 150-dollar discount.
Ben: Don't they play the movies on ABC Family all the time?
Eric: Every other weekend...
Eric: ...is a Harry Potter Weekend.
Andrew: But this is the Definitive Collection, and in order for you to have the Definitive Collection, you've got to pay a lot of money.
Ben: I know, but how much do you think the Definitive Collection is going to be worth ten years from now?
Andrew: [laughs] I know.
Micah: Just as much as you have in all eight DVDs.
Andrew: Well, it comes with the theatrical versions and extended cuts of the first two movies. It also comes with...
Laura: I'm not going to watch those anyway.
Micah: Blah, blah.
Andrew: ...five hours of never-before-seen special features...
Andrew: ...in limited and numbered editions. I have no idea what...
Eric: I would pay about 100 dollars, maybe 200 dollars, for just the special features discs, and then leave, because I already have the movies. I don't need those, you know what I'm saying?
Andrew: Right, so you're basically paying - so all Harry Potter fans are basically just paying for this nice box, and the over five hours of never-before-seen special features.
Andrew: And who even knows what they are.
Laura: Do we really believe that they're never-before-seen? I don't buy that.
Andrew: Yeah, that is a stretch.
Laura: I don't buy that.
Eric: The only thing - well, David Yates specifically said that there was an outtakes reel that was going to be part of this, so...
Eric: ...there is that.
Laura: Yeah, and like everything else on these DVDs, it's probably going to be thirty seconds long.
Eric: Or uploaded immediately to YouTube...
Andrew: Right, right.
Eric: Which is what I'm hoping for, because $500, a little steep.
Micah: So, if you want a positive review, don't listen to this show.
[Laura and Micah laugh]
Eric: One thing I want...
Andrew: If you want a positive review of anything, don't listen to this show. [laughs]
Eric: Don't listen to this show. One thing I want if - and I guess I shouldn't continue saying something that's not positive, but one thing I want if I'm going to get this 500-dollar set is a little bit more of an analysis of the trunk that it comes in, because in the video it looks great. It opens up and it's sideways and it's upside-down and there's drawers that come out. But there was a box set - was it of the books? It was of the seven hardback books - hardcover books - and Amazon was selling it and it was a big deal, and it comes in a treasure chest or Harry's trunk. And unfortunately it was made out of a very cheap cardboard...
Andrew: [laughs] Right.
Eric: ...and it couldn't even sustain the weight of the books, I don't think, over time, and so people who bought that found very quickly that the trunk was becoming destroyed just from gravity.
Andrew: This looks to be paper. I mean, it'd be very cool if it was wood, but this looks to be paper.
Eric: Paper? Yeah.
Andrew: Or cardboard.
Eric: I'm saying if it's going to be $500, make it out of gold, you know?
Micah: It better be signed by every person that ever acted in these films, for $500.
Andrew: Yeah, they're going to have the numbered editions, whatever that means, but it's also to include collectable memorabilia items, including concept art, a map of Hogwarts and much more. The concept art stuff we've seen in the Ultimate Edition, so...
Eric: Or in Film Wizardry, or in...
Eric: ...Page to Screen, or in the Marauder's Map, or at the exhibition, or at the studio tour.
Andrew: No release date yet for this product, but it is looking to come out sometime this year.
Micah: With Pottermore?
Eric: Wizard's Collection. That's who it's for: wizards.
Listener Tweets: J.K. Rowling's New Book
Andrew: So, that is it for news, and obviously a lot of big news so we wanted to spend the majority of the episode discussing that. But the Twitter question this week we have for everybody who follows us on Twitter.com/MuggleCast. We asked you: What do you expect from J.K. Rowling's new book? What do you expect it to be about and why, and what do you hope for? Natalie Morelli said:
"I just hope for another series with some of her wonderful character development!"
Terrance Pinkston of Hogwarts Radio said:
"A thriller! I think it would be great to show another writing style that has something that'll keep us on the edge of our seats."
Ooh, now this I like. Mitch Hull wrote:
"Steamy romance. With Fabio on the cover. Please, Jo."
Andrew: That was also Laura Thompson's idea, steamy romance. One of those great...
Laura: Hey, hey, he's my boyfriend. Don't...
Andrew: Who, Mitch?
Andrew: Oh, Fabio. [laughs]
Micah: [laughs] Let's just keep it going.
Eric: There's a bit of a disconnect happening.
Andrew: [laughs] Christy wrote:
"I think it's going to be a Victorian mystery novel just because that's what it seems like she loves. I would enjoy anything."
That's interesting. Victorian.
Laura: What makes you think she loves Victorian?
Andrew: What makes you think she doesn't?
Laura: Well, no, this person said, "It seems likes she loves..."
Andrew: No, I know.
Eric: Well, J.K. Rowling goes around writing things on statues, so I don't know.
Andrew: [laughs] That's true!
Eric: She's been known to do that.
Andrew: ac_maher wrote:
"As unlikely and denied as it is, imagine if it was secretly prequel-esque. The fandom would go crazy."
Andrew: Yeah, it's definitely not going to be Potter.
Laura: That's not going to happen.
Micah: No Potter.
Laura: Sorry to shatter your dreams, but not happening.
Andrew: emilyzit wrote:
"I think it will be amazing and completely different, but we all know she is a great writer so I have high hopes."
"A grownup Ron tires of life in Hermione's shadow, runs away to Edinburgh where he hangs out his shingle and solves local murders."
Andrew: Very descriptive. PennyLane516 wrote:
"I hope it draws me in just like 'Potter' did but doesn't try too hard to be enticing. I hope it can stand on its own."
"I don't really care. I'm just am glad she's writing something! I hope it is totally different than 'HP' so we can have a new story!"
Ben: You know, Andrew, I need to go.
Andrew: No, you don't.
Ben: Okay, I don't.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: EmilyPeanut wrote:
"I just hope it's really good. After 'Potter', she has lots of pressure for it to be amazing like 'Potter' is."
So we could go on and on with Twitter replies, but thanks everybody who follows us on Twitter, Twitter.com/MuggleCast, and we always ask a question. All right, Ben. Well, where are you going? At least tell us that.
Ben: I got to go downstairs.
Ben: Take care of business.
Andrew: Are you cheating on us? Do you have another podcast to record?
Ben: Yeah, I do, and other things to take care of.
Andrew: [laughs] YokoCast?
Ben: YokoCast. Laura is meeting me downstairs in twenty minutes.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Ben: I got Jamie Lennon flying in from England.
Ben: Lawrence, Lennon.
Andrew: Well, thanks for joining us on our 250th episode, and we'll see you at Episode 500.
Ben: Episode - yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. That was going to be my joke, you stole it from me.
Ben: I've been waiting to use that.
Eric: Sharing is caring.
Ben: But I love everybody. I miss everybody.
Andrew: And you can follow Ben at Twitter.com/benschoen.
Ben: Yeah, that's me.
Micah: I thought...
Andrew: It's a good Twitter account.
Ben: Mhm. Micah Tannenbaum, it's been great!
Micah: See you, Ringo.
Ben: Eric Thompson, it's been good.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Ben: Laura Scull, talk to you guys soon.
Andrew: All right. Goodbye, Ben.
Ben: Andrew Lawrence, later.
Laura: It'll probably be another two years, Ben, I'll see you.
Ben: Probably. Hit me up!
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Muggle Mail: Felix Felicis
Andrew: On to the e-mails. Eric, could you read the first one from Sarah?
Eric: Yeah. First e-mail is from Sarah, age 15. She says:
"So recently I have been doing a bit of research on Felix Felicis, and I noticed that it takes six months to brew the potion. How did Professor Slughorn in 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince' have all of the Felix Felicis ready if he only got hired two months previously? Sorry if this is a topic you have already discussed, but I would like to hear what you guys have to say about it."
Eric: So, we're talking at the beginning of Harry Potter: Year 6.
Laura: Maybe he bought it somewhere, pre-brewed. I'm sure you can do that.
Andrew: Or couldn't it have been in storage at Hogwarts somewhere?
Eric: Well, can you store it like - is there a Rubbermaid or a tupperware...
Andrew: Oh yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, somebody - another teacher could be brewing it. Think of how many teachers are at Hogwarts.
Eric: That's true. I wonder, also, how much of that brewing process is actually brewing. Do you know what I'm saying? Gathering the ingredients is some, some ingredients have to mature. So by the time you actually throw them into a cauldron and it turns gold, I'm sure that isn't until sort of the very end.
Andrew: Laura, would you like to read the next e-mail?
Muggle Mail: Watches in Hogwarts
Laura: So, the next one comes from Cassandra-lee, age 14, of Melbourne, and she says:
"Hi MuggleCast, I was re-reading 'Goblet of Fire' and it got me thinking that if you can't use Muggle objects around Hogwarts because of the magic (as referenced from 'Hogwarts: A History') if this is true, how come they can use watches? Wouldn't it affect the magic just as electricity would? Just a thought. Love your podcast, keep rocking!"
Eric: Are the watches just a movie thing? I'm really trying to think of a book reference where they said...
Laura: Because don't they, for their seventeenth birthday, get some special watch?
Eric: Ooh, maybe.
Laura: Like the one Dumbledore had with the planets around the outside.
Eric: Well, then there's the Weasley clock which again, it's a clock and it's around magic. But I'm thinking...
Laura: But it's a magical one now.
Eric: Yeah. Well, at the movies - or in the movie, there's that giant clock tower, that pendulum...
Eric: ...that Umbridge walks by, or Snape stands by in the movies.
Andrew: Couldn't the watches have been enchanted?
Eric: Well, I think - and with big clocks, anyway - they're more mechanical than electrical, if that makes sense, so it's like gears turning.
Eric: So, what if the magic just makes the gears turn? Whereas - so it doesn't need to be - it replaces electricity then, because watches are more of a machine than - a computer wouldn't be able to work without electricity, but gears would be able to turn with magic.
Andrew: Yeah, I could see how it could've been - these watches were enchanted or made in the wizarding world, which would - because, what, do they have no clocks?
Eric: Well, yeah, how do they tell the time if they don't...
Eric: Yeah. Or - I think with the books, there was always that - they were talking about periods ending, going onto the next period, or bells or something. How would they change classes without a time-keeping system?
Andrew: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. My best guess is what I've just stated. Micah, could you read the next e-mail from Theresa?
Muggle Mail: The Deathly Hallows
Micah: The next e-mail is from Teresa, 17, of Taiwan, and she says:
"Hey MuggleCasters, I've been listening to the podcast for almost a year and I think you guys are great! Since there isn't a lot of fans in my school and no one (that I know of) who is as into the series, it has always been exciting to follow the new episodes and listen to you guys discuss 'Harry Potter'.
Here's something I couldn't quite understand, and I was hoping that you guys could answer it for me: I was re-reading 'Deathly Hallows' the other day, and there's something that I find strange. On page 572 of the UK edition, Dumbledore answered Harry about 'The Tale of the Three Brothers': 'I think it more likely that the Peverell brothers were simply gifted, dangerous wizards who succeeded in creating those powerful objects.' If it really was so, then shouldn't 'The Master of Death' be nothing more than an empty title simply made up by whoever..."
[coughs] Excuse me. "Did it?" I guess is what she's trying to say.
"Why would Dumbledore, as brilliant as he might be, believe that there truly is a master of Death? Is there something that I've missed or is it something that is just not fully explained?"
Laura: I thought the whole idea was that that title was more of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You couldn't really obtain it without first trying to seek it, which ended up being impossible because as Dumbledore kind of explained, anybody who went out to actually try and seek power was actually not equipped to yield it, whereas somebody like Harry, who had it thrust upon him, was actually a very good leader. So, I don't think that - I think Dumbledore was right by saying that it was really just kind of a tale based off of these three very talented, dangerously-talented men, but I don't think that it's actually real. I think that Dumbledore was just very enticed by the objects and what they were capable of.
Micah: Yeah, and I think though that we've seen wands have certain allegiances, aside from the Elder Wand, right? In parts of the series? So I don't - and wasn't there that whole bit about when Harry was killed by Voldemort, or whatever you want to say happened to him, he cast that sort of same protection that his mother cast on him? So that in part, I think, aided him in his defeat...
Eric: To be the Master of Death.
Micah: ...of the Death Eaters and Voldemort.
Eric: Yeah, it's interesting and it's a bit - I don't want to say it's convoluted, but Harry had several things going for him. There was the blood seal, his mother's sacrifice, the fact that he was The Chosen One, the prophecy, and that he was wielding - over time he had each of the Deathly Hallows. Yeah, I don't know. But I always just kind of took The Tale of the Three Brothers as being true, but then this quote from Dumbledore says that he doesn't really think there were three brothers, or that he didn't think they met Death. He just thought they created these three different objects.
Laura: Yeah, that's how I always took it, that they had created these objects, or at the very least had come to possess them somehow, and then as they got passed down over time - much in the same way that our own kind of folklore and legends are created, people start creating stories in order to make sense of why things are the way they are.
Eric: Yeah, that's a really rich interpretation of the story and also - yeah, I agree completely. That makes sense to me.
Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul
Andrew: All right, to wrap up the show today we have Chicken Soup: Extra Spicy (Dedicated) Edition.
Andrew: Titled by Eric Scull.
Eric: Yeah, extra spicy and then the dedicated is in parenthesis. So this guy is - you'll understand.
Andrew: Okay. I thought this was like a Chick-fil-A reference or something.
Andrew: This is from...
Laura: Oh, I miss Chick-fil-A. Sorry, go ahead.
Andrew: Me too. I just had it twelve hours ago. Twenty-four hours ago.
Andrew: So, waiting forever. Anyway, Matt L, 14, from Tampa, Florida. He writes:
"Dear MuggleCast, this week I have been stuck in bed at home sick for all week. It sucks, which is why I decided to go back and re-listen to all the MuggleCast episodes. I will admit that I almost gave up at the twelve-hour live show..."
Laura: Oh yeah, so did we.
Micah: So did we, yeah.
Eric: But we made it to twelve hours! I think I was on for like ten minutes of that.
Andrew: He continues.
"...but it is so great, listening to how great the whole experience has been. Thanks so much for keeping me from going insane in my room. I'm currently on Episode 164."
And then he asked a question so we should just answer this.
"Why did Voldy crumble into frosted flakes in 'DH2'? You should re-listen to Episode 4."
Laura: Uh-oh. I don't get it. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah, did we predict that'd happen in Episode 4?
Eric: Episode 4 was me, Ben, Jamie...
Micah: Was there an explanation there?
Andrew: We've talked about how he fell apart and that was just - I don't know. I think we all had differing opinions on it. But...
Laura: Well, he didn't fall apart though. Not in the book.
Andrew: No, no, no. Yeah, no, of course, but we're talking about in the movie.
Eric: That's a fairly...
Laura: Yeah, I know, but I think...
Eric: ...big change if you think about it.
Laura: If it's Episode 4 then that means that we made some kind of prophetic statement.
Eric: As we tend to do.
Andrew: Oh yeah, I guess you're right. Somebody should go back and listen to it.
Eric: It's probably about a cereal.
Andrew: Somebody let us know.
Eric: I think it's about a cereal. I think Jamie...
Laura: [laughs] Yeah, because we're not going to do it.
Andrew: Yeah, I can't listen to myself.
Micah: Neither can we.
Andrew: I listen to myself all day.
Andrew: I talk to myself, I'm very lonely. Anyway, thanks, Matt. Hope you got better. Can you believe that, guys? He's fourteen. When we started this show he was about...
Andrew: I don't even think he was born yet.
Laura: [laughs] Wait, how many years has this been going? We started this in 2006?
Eric: Do the math, he was...
Laura: Oh my God, seven years?
Andrew: So seven years, so he was...
Andrew: [in a silly voice] He was a little seven-year-old.
Eric: ...Laura, our seventh year is coming up in August.
Laura: Oh my God.
Andrew: In August.
Laura: I've known you people too long.
Eric: Yeah, you should leave and go to a different country...
Andrew: Laura, you're like freaking out right now.
Eric: ...or something to get away from us.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: Then that doesn't work, either.
Andrew: And live amongst the toucans.
Announcement: MuggleNet Site Issues
Andrew: Anyway, it's been a very fun show, I have to say.
Eric: If you sent an e-mail to mugglecast at gmail and got bounced, we had some kind of a lockout issue. So I wanted to just remind everybody, please e-mail us at mugglecast at gmail...
Andrew: Well - no, I don't think that was the problem. I think it's because the site is down, [laughs] which I also want to bring up.
Andrew: We've been getting a lot of comments about that because people can't e-mail in via the feedback form, so I think that's why e-mails stopped.
Eric: Oh okay.
Andrew: So yeah, if you're wondering, the site is going to be down for a little bit longer. But when it is usually up, you can go to MuggleCast.com to find all you need about the show, to download the latest episodes and whatnot. Right now you can get episodes via MuggleNet.com.
Micah: Why don't I explain a little bit of that, real quick?
Micah: For people who are looking to get onto MuggleNet, there have been some problems the last couple of weeks with some malware on the site. We took most of the site offline so that we could try and fix the problem, and that it doesn't infect anybody's computer. So hopefully, MuggleCast will be back up in the next few days, in time for this episode.
Andrew: What happened was I got really angry that I'm no longer part of MuggleNet.
Andrew: So I started installing malware on the site.
Micah: We knew it.
Andrew: There was actually theories about it. I saw some people in the comments being like, "Oh, Andrew must have done it." [laughs] I was like, "Yeah."
Eric: I did not originate that rumor, I will tell you that.
Micah: Yeah, you did.
Micah: No, I think that...
Andrew: No, I didn't do it, I just paid somebody to do it. No, this is a joke.
Laura: Damon. You got Damon to do it.
Andrew: Damon! He's striking back, finally, after all these years!
Andrew: No, it's Ciaran. Oh man, the site has so many enemies!
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Laura: Oh God.
Andrew: Anyway, it's been a fun 250th episode. And really a fun 250 episodes.
Eric: Gosh, we didn't even reflect.
Andrew: Well, we did a little bit.
Micah: Let's reflect. We've got five minutes here.
Andrew: We reflect, like, every ten episodes. [laughs]
Eric: Yeah, it's true, now because they're so far apart.
Andrew: It's the same stuff. But thank you to everybody who has been listening over the years. It's just been a lot of fun.
Eric: And this guy, this Chicken Soup, 164 episodes in one week.
Andrew: Yeah, that's pretty impressive.
Eric: That's actually mathematically impossible.
Eric: But I don't want to...
Andrew: No, nice going, dude. Nice going, Matt.
Eric: I don't want to call him out, but man, that's awesome.
Andrew: Yeah, I know. That's great. Podcasts are always fun to listen to. I listen to podcasts myself. Not this one, but it's because I'm on it. So really, I am listening.
Eric: Yeah. And if you edit it, you're really living it like three times. There's no...
Andrew: Yeah. Right. And now that we have this new book from J.K. Rowling to look forward to, who knows how we can incorporate this book into MuggleCast itself in the future.
Andrew: So yeah. And whatever J.K. Rowling writes next. And what Pottermore puts out next, and what happens at the Wizarding World. There's just so much.
Eric: When's the - before the next episode comes out of MuggleCast, there will be a studio tour, right? Does that - isn't that March?
Andrew: Yeah, the studio tour will be open at the very end of March, and MuggleNet and Hypable will both be going to the release events. So...
Micah: So we'll be sure to talk about it. How about next episode we - we'll talk a little bit about the content on Pottermore because who knows when it's opening to the public.
Andrew: We have talked about it, haven't we?
Micah: No, we didn't talk about it because...
Andrew: We didn't go in-depth on it.
Eric: I need to find my username and password.
Andrew: Very good. Laura, hope to have you on again soon. It's always lovely having you on.
Laura: Yeah, definitely.
Andrew: And again, MuggleCast.com. Usually when it's up, you'll have all the information you need, but in the meantime you can follow us on Twitter, Twitter.com/MuggleCast, Facebook which is Facebook.com/MuggleCast, and the fan Tumblr which is MuggleCast.Tumblr.com. Thanks everyone for listening! I'm Andrew Sims.
Micah: I like how this person just said that they're going to be listening again now that Laura...
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Micah: ...and I guess Ben are on.
Andrew: What, on Twitter?
Andrew: Oh cool.
Micah: I guess the three of us weren't good enough.
Eric: [laughs] Oh, we're...
Andrew: What do you mean listening...
Andrew: Oh, that person quit listening, and now...
Micah: Yeah, now they're back.
Eric: It might just be worth returning to.
Micah: So thanks, Brad.
Andrew: And thanks, Laura and Ben...
Eric: Giving us that edge.
Laura: For bringing Brad back?
Andrew: We're up one listener, woo-hoo!
[Show music begins]
Andrew: Every listener matters. Anyway, I'm Andrew Sims.
Eric: I'm Eric Scull.
Micah: You can go, Laura.
Laura: No, Micah, you have way more seniority over me. Go.
Micah: I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
Laura: And I'm Laura Thompson.
Andrew: [poorly impersonating Ben] And I'm Ben Schoen.
Andrew: That's my best Ben Schoen.
Micah: Ringo Starr.
Andrew: [poorly impersonating Ben] And I'm Ben Schoen. And I'm Ben Schoen.
Eric: [poorly impersonating Ben] Peace and love. Peace and love.
Andrew: [poorly impersonating Ben] Peace and love.
Andrew: Thanks everyone for listening. We'll see you next time for Episode 251. Goodbye!
Laura and Micah: Bye!
[Show music continues]
Written by: The Transcribers