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Andrew: Because Eric, Micah, and Selina decided to record an episode without me, this is MuggleCast Episode 257 for September 22nd, 2012.
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Eric: Welcome to MuggleCast 257. It has been an entire month since our last episode of MuggleCast, which was at LeakyCon 2012.
Selina: Yay! LeakyCon!
Eric: We all had a lot of fun there. We were all on-site. It was myself, Micah, Selina, and Andrew who is actually not with us this week.
Micah: Yeah, we've lost our fearless leader. You know what I think it is? He had too much fun at the premiere last night of The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
Micah: I think that's it.
Selina: He's partying with Emma. Yeah, you're right.
Micah: Yeah, he's still recovering.
Eric: Yeah, I think it's...
Micah: That guy just - he's gotten too big for us.
Selina: [laughs] It's his close encounter with Emma Watson. He doesn't care about us anymore.
Micah: It's true.
Eric: Well, at least he videoed it and put it on the website.
Selina: This is true. Did you guys see that sweet Hypable microphone?
Eric: No, I missed it.
Selina: Oh, that was the best part of the video. Forget Emma! [laughs]
Micah: Would you be responsible for that?
Selina: No. I think Andrew's mum was, but still it was pretty cool.
Eric: Well, that's all right. So, LeakyCon was a lot of fun. I know we were all there. You guys have any overall thoughts about the con? The last episode was our podcast at the con so we weren't really talking about the whole experience.
Micah: It was a shorter episode, I thought, compared to episodes that we've done over the last couple of months. And even for live shows, I thought it was relatively short.
Micah: But we did get a chance to talk a little bit about the con, The Casual Vacancy, interacted with the listeners who were there, and the convention overall I thought was great. I think each year they get better and better. As far as LeakyCon goes, it was great in Orlando. I thought it was even better this year in Chicago and everything seemed to go really smooth. There was a lot of cool programming and it seemed like everybody had a really good time.
Selina: I thought it was absolutely epic. It was obviously my first con, and as you guys know I had no voice for the entire con.
Selina: I was ill, I had a fever - [laughs] it was ridiculous. But I had so much fun.
Micah: No, you weren't ill. You were just screaming like crazy at all the different events that were going on.
Selina: No, I really was not. I really, really was ill. And I came home...
Eric: Selina was suffering from StarKid Fever.
Selina: Oh yeah, Darren Criss Fever. I just couldn't contain myself. No, I came home and I was in bed for a week with a fever. It was terrible. [laughs]
Selina: But it was worth it!
Eric: [laughs] You'd do it again.
Selina: I would. [laughs]
Eric: Well, actually you can do it again.
Selina: Oh my God!
Eric: There's two opportunities next year. As it turns out, there's going to be two LeakyCons next year that we just found out about - well, we found out about I guess at the con at the very, very end during the closing feast, and actually by the time you're hearing this, listeners at home, registration will have probably sold out already for both LeakyCons. If not the one in Portland next year, definitely the one in London. Those are the two locations.
Micah: Yeah, I think the opportunity will still be there for Portland. It's the London one, I believe, that's had more of an overwhelming response than I think anybody anticipated. But it shouldn't be too much of a surprise, right? It's taking place in London which obviously plays a big role in the series, and those fans over there really haven't had the opportunity to have a major conference, a fan-based conference, probably since the whole idea of conventions for Harry Potter started.
Selina: No, there really hasn't been anything.
Eric: Occasionally you read about one, but it's a lot smaller and we don't publish about it as often. In fact, the convention that was going to happen in London this year, I believe it was called Alohomora?
Eric: And that actually - they are now in conjunction with LeakyCon. So LeakyCon approached them and it's all now one big, happy con. So, that will be pretty exciting.
Selina: Do you guys know that there is actually a yearly Harry Potter conference in Denmark?
Selina: It's very exciting. They have craft stalls and everything.
Eric: What's it called?
Selina: I don't know. It's in Odense, which is the city where HC Andersen was from.
Eric: [laughs] But you know it exists.
Selina: [laughs] Yes, I know it exists. I was there one year. It was fun.
Micah: Yeah, but I was saying, how would you know about that? Because you are from Sweden.
Selina: [laughs] I know.
Micah: Do you travel often to Denmark? [laughs]
Selina: It's my neighboring land, yes.
Selina: It's all just the same thing, Micah.
Micah: Do you cross the narrow sea there?
Selina: Yes, I did. I did. The very narrow - it is actually a narrow sea. But are you guys planning on going to either of these cons? Do you know yet?
Eric: What do you think, Micah?
Micah: Tentatively, I'd say yes. I don't know which one. It'll probably be either one or the other. It would either be Portland or London, but I'm leaning more towards London right now.
Eric: [sighs] I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, London is closer, I guess, to you. Just a hop over the pond.
Eric: But I'd like to go to both, but I am thinking that I will go to Portland. I have been to Portland before. I can recommend it as a city. It is pretty cool. A very nice hipster vibe. [laughs] And lots of second-hand stores that are very cool. So, I think it is going to be a great environment. But actually, the Portland Leaky is going to be at a convention center as opposed to a hotel, so things will be done a little bit differently. But I like that Leaky is trying new things with trying to suit the best environment to their conventions.
Micah: Then maybe I'll go to Portland also.
Eric: Yeah! I'm going to be all, "Yeah! Do it, Micah! Do it!"
Micah: But Selina, I wanted to ask you, you said this was the first time you were at a con. What was your favorite moment or the thing that you remember the most or was the coolest? Aside from hanging out with us, of course.
Eric: Yeah, rooming with us.
Selina: Oh yeah, rooming with you guys, obviously, was the top part of it. I honestly really enjoyed the actual MuggleCast, obviously. I thought that was amazing. And I also went to the StarKid show, which, I have to say, was incredible. The atmosphere there was absolutely incredible. But I think my favorite thing - and this is going to sound extremely cheesy so you have been warned - but was - at one of the random days, I was looking for something, I don't know why. I walked into the main hall and all of the Potter people were just sitting on the stairs, just hanging out. They were singing and they were just going between each other and just in all their costumes and just like - it was amazing because it was the whole community of people just hanging out, and that's like - when you said that next year it won't happen at a hotel my first thought was, "Is that still going to be there?" But I think it will because this group of fans is just so incredible. That atmosphere, it was just amazing.
Micah: You're winning over listeners right now...
Selina: Oh, I hope so.
Micah: ...with all those statements.
Micah: My big concern about it was with the conventions having taken place in Orlando for so long, and having the Wizarding World theme park there as a go-to, as kind of a fail safe. How was Chicago going to be able to really live up to that? And then, obviously, now next year going to Portland, going to London. London is going to have so much to offer in the sense that a lot of the actors are over there, you have the studio tour available. Places that people can go that were locations that were used for the film. So, I think London is going to be a great opportunity for people. But I think just - to some of the things that you were just saying, Selina, that's what made Chicago so unique and I think why a lot of people enjoyed it.
Eric: Yeah. I think that Orlando was never the end-all, be-all. There were cons in Vegas, San Francisco, Houston, what was the one - Dallas, was it Portus?
Eric: Dallas. They go all over even without a specific environmental tie-in, but the ones that do have that environmental tie-in like London next year with the studio tour I think are going to be extra special in a way.
Selina: I hope so.
Eric: But as you're saying, all the people who attend will make it a good time. And we're talking about cons next year. There are a few other opportunities besides the LeakyCons. You wanted to mention - Micah, you wrote something down on the doc?
Micah: Yeah. There's also MISTI-Con 2013, which is going to be taking place May 9th through the 13th at the Margate Hotel in Laconia, New Hampshire. And for people who might be looking to go to a little bit smaller of a conference, maybe it's closer to them on the East Coast, there's only a couple of more days left to get an early bird price of $110 registration, and it gets you into things like the Opening Gala, the Closing Breakfast, MuggleNet presents HP Family Feud and HP Jeopardy hosted by Keith Hawk...
Selina: [laughs] That's awesome.
Micah: ...some live podcasting, wizard rock, literally everything. So, it's a great opportunity to take advantage of. Maybe, like I said, you want to go to a smaller conference, you have a family. It's only $110 to register right now, it'll go up to $150 after September 15th. You can find all the information out on www.misti-con.org. And that's from May 13th through the 16th - oh sorry. [laughs] And that's from May 9th through the 13th, 2013.
Eric: What I like about MISTI-Con - and many people who attended Ascendio this year were talking about MISTI-Con, so that was when I first sort of heard about it. And I think it's run by most of the same people who ran Aeternitas.
Eric: Was it last year or earlier this year? And what I like about it is for Aeternitas they pretty much rented out an island or something, if I'm recalling correctly. Like it's....
Selina: Are you serious? That's so awesome.
Eric: It's extremely exclusive...
Micah: [laughs] Is it Survivor: Harry Potter?
Eric: ...in the New Hampshire area. It wasn't a tropical island, but...
Micah: No, what they did was they transformed the hotel, and that's really what's happening at this convention, is that it's a hotel owned by this couple that are essentially allowing the people who run this convention to transform the hotel into everything Harry Potter, all the surrounding area as well, which has a beach area and a lake. So, you're really kind of being immersed into the whole experience.
Selina: Wow. That sounds incredible.
Eric: So, yeah. And there are other options as well for next year we'll talk about, I guess, at a future date. None as pressing.
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Eric: Now, actually, because it's been a whole month since our last MuggleCast, we find ourselves with a plethora of Harry Potter news.
Selina: Ooh, nice one. [laughs]
Eric: And we're just going to - that will make up, I guess, the bulk of this longer episode. And no better way to get it done than to start getting it done, I guess. Micah, what's in Harry Potter news?
Micah: It's actually been so long that the Exhibition decided that it's coming back to New York City.
Micah: The touring exhibition that I'm sure a lot of listeners have been to, which is now touring internationally in Singapore, will actually be making its way back to the United States to New York City around the holiday season. They haven't offered any specific dates yet, but it will return to Discovery Times Square. And I'm sure it's going to be a major attraction around Christmas time. There's no coincidence, I think, [laughs] in the fact that they're bringing it back to its most successful area, which was New York. And the cool thing is that they will now have props and costumes from Deathly Hallows: Parts 1 and 2, which probably weren't in there the first time around. Definitely from Part 2, it wasn't included. And also, they said that they're going to have certain holiday-themed items that are going to be included, so interested to see what they're going to do with that.
Eric: Yeah, that will be exciting to see the holiday theme, because I think a lot of the Exhibition - because the majority of, I guess, the props and the art department is focused on things like Dementors and Death Eaters. And it's very dark, really, the Exhibition. There's a little light, especially at the end of the tunnel, when you get to the Great Hall and there's all that food there. But a lot of it is sort of the Voldemort, Death Eaters kind of area, and maybe a holiday theme will be a little bit better becoming.
Selina: I haven't been to the Exhibition, but I have been to the Studio Tour. Would it offer me anything special?
Micah: Oh, look at you!
[Eric and Selina laugh]
Selina: I have been! I feel like I need to show off something. But would the Exhibition offer anything special that the Studio Tour doesn't? Or is it - quote, unquote - just costumes and things?
Eric: Yeah, the Exhibition isn't any of the sets. So, it's costumes and props, and they're arranged so that it tells a story. But it's like a museum exhibit, really, and nothing more. There's - you can get an audio tour of it that will tell you more about each prop, who constructed it, how it was made, and that sort of thing. But in terms of backdrops, a lot of it is kind of replica from the film and that sort of thing, and it guides you through - what I took away from the Studio Tour - and I saw it twice when it was in Chicago, and at least once when it was in New York. What I took away from it is just the skill and the craftsmanship that goes into the costumes and the props and that kind of thing. Now, I haven't been to the Studio Tour yet, but I would guess honestly that...
Selina: You would love it, Eric. You would absolutely love it. I can promise you that.
Eric: I can guess that the Exhibition is for the people who can't go to the Studio Tour, and that sounds terrible. The Exhibition was first, I feel a loyalty to it, in a way, because it opened in Chicago, and there was a big press event for it and everything. But ultimately, I think it really just depends on what you're looking for. But there are excellent props and excellent costumes in the Exhibition. But I guess I can see - they originally said they weren't coming back. The New York stop was supposed to be - or was it the Toronto stop? It was the last North American date. They said when they came up with the Exhibition, it was going to do ten stops, an initial five-year run of ten stops. And people were complaining because it went from Chicago, to New York, to LA, to Toronto, and it wasn't going anywhere overseas. Australians were like, "Well, where's our Exhibition?" And Singapore was like, "Where's our Exhibition?" So, they did it there next, but they had said, finally, when they left North America, they weren't going to do any more. And sure enough, hang on, now they're going back to New York City. Oh, get this, it's for Christmas!
Eric: So, I don't know exactly what's going on here. I guess - if I had a guess, I would say maybe the Exhibition is hurting from...
Micah: Well, did the Exhibition actually go to LA? Because I don't think that it did. Didn't it go to Seattle?
Eric: Oh, it went to Seattle! That was my mistake.
Micah: It was in Boston too. I think that's where it started.
Micah: It went to Chicago to - whatever it was, it made plenty of stops in the United States, that's the point we're trying to make.
Micah: And now they're coming back here. And it's interesting, because how do fans respond to that? It's not like you can just bring this huge, massive exhibition from Singapore to the United States and drop it there for a couple of weeks. [laughs] I mean, it's probably going to stay here for a little bit of time before it moves on, if it moves on. Is Singapore the end of the international run for right now? Is it going to go back to touring domestically here in the United States?
Eric: It seems like whatever their initial plan is, it changed, obviously, because they're coming back. And maybe that has something to do with the Studio Tour [laughs] because the Exhibition isn't going to London next.
Eric: So, very interesting. And I'm sure we could poke around a little bit and get a little bit more out of the people who travel, but I'm sure what they would tell you is that they're very excited to be bringing it to New York again. And honestly - the Discovery Time Square Museum, I guess it is? Right in that area. I really had fun there. I thought that that was actually a pretty good venue for the Exhibition when I was there. Plus, the flying car hanging out of the side of the building when you're just walking around New York is pretty cool to see.
Selina: [laughs] That's cool.
Micah: That's cool. It's not unusual in New York, that's the only thing. I mean, there's so much going on. It's just like, "Oh, there's a flying car."
Selina: Flying cars everywhere.
[Eric and Selina laugh]
Eric: Micah sees this kind of thing every day.
Micah: Every day, every day. But moving on, another bit of news that we got was in relation to the Deathly Hallows DVD. Both films are going to be released as a double feature Blu-ray on October 16th. Coincidentally, the same day JK Rowling is going to be in New York City.
Micah: And actually, the Ultimate Editions for both Deathly Hallows: Part 1 and Part 2 finally got a release date. Guess what date?
Eric: October 16th.
Micah: October 16th, yeah. How did you know?
Eric: Oh wow! I should do this for a living.
Micah: You should. And so I think the big thing here, though, is that we finally got confirmation that there are going to be Ultimate Editions for the two parts of Deathly Hallows, because it had been speculated about for so long with the Wizard's Collection coming out. Were there going to be Ultimate Editions released for the final two films? And we'll talk about the Wizard's Collection in a little bit. But now if you're a collector of the Ultimate Editions, you can complete that set and not have to go out and purchase the five-hundred-dollar Wizard's Collection.
Eric: Well, I'm relieved because it seemed for a while that they had given up on these Ultimate Editions. It took them a while to announce maybe the fifth and the sixth or something. There was a while there, and I was just thinking, well, what if they don't finish it? What if they don't complete it instead of - in lieu of doing a better, bigger set? Because the Ultimate Editions, really the reason to get those is this documentary, this eight-part documentary, which from the beginning they said, "Okay, it will be in eight parts," for however many movies there were going to be. But we hadn't until very much later - Warner Bros. released the last film on DVD last November, so it was an entire year before fans would actually have the Ultimate Editions of those movies.
Micah: Right. Now, do you own the Ultimate Editions, Eric?
Eric: I do not, but what I do own is the other DVD set you mentioned, the double feature on Blu-ray. I actually have ñ and this is ñ I was very happy to see this news, because last November - it was during the Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Celebration. I took a trip to Walmart, I was just getting supplies because we were staying at Universal. And I went to the nearby Walmart and found these double feature Blu-ray discs for the first six Harry Potter films. And I was blown away because it's just a great value, because I hadn't yet owned the Harry Potter films on Blu-ray and here you could get the first and second, third and fourth, and fifth and sixth on Blu-ray. And Walmart was selling them for thirteen dollars.
Micah: That's a good deal.
Eric: Ooh, ahhh. Yes!
Selina: Ooh! [laughs]
Eric: Chinese Firebolt!
Eric: Yes, thirteen dollars, so I stocked up on my Harry Potter Blu-rays. But of course, Deathly Hallows: Part 2 had just come out on regular Blu-ray. They're not going to release it as a double feature that close to the thing. So, now that the double feature is coming out, it's just a great opportunity because I already own the DVDS, and so I needed a quick pick-me-up to get the Blu-rays, to get the next quality up. And now it looks like fans who for some reason don't own the Deathly Hallows already on Blu-ray can get this double feature, and it seems like...
Selina: I don't. I don't own any of them on Blu-ray. I don't own any Blu-rays. Should I? [laughs] Is it cool?
Eric: Do you have an HDTV?
Eric: Yeah, then don't worry about it.
Eric: You're actually physically not going to be able to see a difference.
Selina: No? Okay, then.
Eric: But if you have a Playstation - that's how Andrew got by for the first few years, I know, and that's how I'm getting by now. With the Playstation 3, it is a Blu-ray player as well, so you do not need to invest in a separate player or anything to get the high-def experience. It looks good. I mean, I couldn't say if it looks that much better than DVD because all new films these days are produced pretty well anyway.
Selina: Yeah, exactly.
Eric: But we're meant to believe, as consumers, that it is that much better.
Micah: Well, if you don't like Blu-rays you can always turn to books, right?
Micah: Because they're what got us into this whole thing in the first place.
Selina: [laughs] If I have a few extra money. [laughs]
Eric: Books are slightly more expensive, aren't they, Micah?
Micah: Well, they are when you package them all together. And we'll talk about this in relation to the Wizard's Collection a little bit later on, but Harry Potter: Page to Screen - which I thought already existed in book format - but now they're taking it and they're putting it into this comprehensive limited edition version.
Micah: And it features never-before-published art and text chronicling the making of the Harry Potter films. Five brand new volumes that show how the team designed locations, graphics, costumes, creatures, and special effects. It's got a deluxe book of the paintings of Hogwarts, along with a keepsake book chronicling the lasting relationships between cast and crew. There's a replica of the Monster Book of Monsters, there's five frame able concept art prints. And, of course, the original Page to Screen book itself.
Selina: It seems like a portable version of the Studio Tour, to be honest with you.
Selina: Because that's what it sounds like.
Micah: Yeah, and here's the thing: the Wizard's Collection is 19 pounds. Literally.
Micah: It's heavy.
Eric: Like, cost? Only 19 - like 38 dollars?
Micah: No, no, no. It's 20 pounds to lift up off the ground.
Selina: So, it's not quite that portable. [laughs]
Micah: No. I'm thinking to myself, with all of these books in this Page to Screen collection, how much is that thing going to weigh?
Micah: Because Page to Screen itself weighs seven to eight pounds without question.
Eric: Yeah, let's be honest, Page to Screen is on my lowest bookshelf because I fear for the structural integrity of my bookshelf if I store it any higher. It is that heavy, you're right.
Micah: But let's get to the big point here. The retail price right now is 800 dollars. What's going on here?
Selina: Which is ridiculous!
Micah: What are they trying to do?
Selina: I don't know, are they really short on money...
[Eric and Micah laugh]
Selina: ...and they're like, "Oh well, these crazy Harry Potter fans will give us our Christmas bonuses"? What is going on?
Eric: I think Uncle Warner has some gambling debts.
Selina: I think you might be right!
[Eric and Selina laugh]
Eric: But 800 dollars. Well, have we seen any news on how the Wizard's Collection is selling? It's been a week since it was released - or is it just five days now? Do we know how that collection is doing? That retails at, was it, 350 after the Amazon discounts?
Selina: I have no idea.
Micah: Yeah, it's about 350, I think.
Micah: I don't know how sales are doing, but it went on sale here in the US on September 7th, so last Friday, and then in the UK actually on the 10th, so it hasn't been out that long. We'll see. I wish I had numbers, but I can't imagine - now, remember each of them come with a certificate of authenticity, and I think there's only a little over 60,000 that have been made, so...
Selina: See, I don't know about you guys, but I look at stuff like this - and maybe it's just because I travel around so much, so I'm immediately thinking how much [laughs] is it going to take up space in my suitcase, but this kind of stuff doesn't hold that much interest to me. I really like the films, I want to own the films. I love the books, I want to own the books. But this kind of stuff, I don't know. I wouldn't - if someone gave it to me I'd be like, "Oh great, thanks," and I'd skim through it, but I don't know. This kind of - I don't - it's not like it comes directly from Jo, you know what I mean?
Selina: To pay 800 dollars for it just seems outrageous.
Eric: It's going to be a massive testament to what we already really know, is that these books change lives.
Eric: It's going to be a big chronicle, more so than the first Page to Screen. And honestly, Film Wizardry, which was the first book and then Page to Screen produced by HarperCollins...
Selina: But this is about the films! This isn't about the books.
Eric: This is about the movies too. It's not going to be about the books. You're right there, Selina. But there's just so much information, so much stuff that came from making the films, and honestly...
Eric: ...I think somebody's eyes turned a little green here. They realized they could sell it.
Eric: Perhaps what they should have done is they should have continued to release books like Page to Screen and found a way to make each book about something different, perhaps? Because this is, they said, five extra books including Page to Screen. Or, you know what? Maybe foreseeable that they'll release a kindle version of this book which, honestly, would weigh a lot less.
Selina: Hmmm, I'd probably get that.
Selina: Because it is so interesting to learn. The studio tour as well, just going and seeing how much effort went into it is incredible.
Eric: I don't know how many thousands of pages the Harry Potter books - the regular "by JK Rowling" Harry Potter books take up, but it's almost like, at this point, looking at this $800 price tag for this new limited edition of Page to Screen collection, I have to start really thinking to myself, okay, you could sit down and you could read all of these books and go through the pages, or honestly, you could start living your own life.
Eric: Get on with your kind of own thing. Make your own Harry Potter movies...
Selina: Kind of music.
Eric: ...that make - that change so many people. Compose your own excellent music, and keep in touch with your own...
Selina: But maybe people need inspiration like this. Maybe this inspires people.
Eric: Perhaps it does, and perhaps it makes them take out a second mortgage.
Micah: Well, one thing you can do is clearly get a workout from utilizing...
[Micah and Selina laugh]
Micah: ...either the Wizards Collection...
Selina: Just reading it.
Micah: ...or this new - yeah - or this new Page to Screen collection. Well, reading it or lifting it up and down...
Selina: [laughs] Exactly!
Micah: ...depending on what you want to do.
Eric: Perhaps we should have a new - Micah, you've inspired me. We should hold a contest at MuggleNet for...
Selina: You could lift it! [laughs]
Eric: ...ways to use the Harry Potter Wizard's Collection, or the book that you wouldn't think of. Unusual ways, like a giant paperweight, or perhaps to crush down coal into diamonds.
Selina: Or you could just hold a contest to see who can lift it up the longest.
Micah: There you go.
Eric: Yeah, that works too. [laughs]
Micah: But my big question with this, before we move on, is why would you want to read what you can probably see in a lot of these special features discs, behind the scenes discs? Isn't it the same? What is it that's so much different about what they're putting in Page to Screen that you're not going to see on some of these Blu-ray and DVD collections?
Eric: A lot of these typically...
Selina: I guess it's just for people who want to read it rather than watch it.
Eric: To read it, and also one of the things I think they shy away from on the special features is showing any kind of - if a letter was written to somebody, they'll show it for a few seconds or whatever, but mostly it's live action stuff. And there's a lot of props and photos that are still life that aren't video that I think get shuttled over to these types of publications. But it's obviously - there's only going to be 3,000 made, I think, of the Page to Screen limited edition. We'll have to just gauge fan interest, or if anybody ends up purchasing this - when is it due out? I'm trying to look it up real quick.
Micah: I don't know that it has a scheduled release date right now.
Eric: Release date yet? Let's see here.
Micah: It's one of those things that's online. Maybe it'll disappear. Never hear from them again.
Selina: December 4th, 2012.
Micah: Or maybe it'll come out on December 4th, 2012.
Selina: Maybe it will.
Selina: Just in time for Christmas.
Eric: So, December 4th. So, if anybody gets this for Christmas - and, by the way, Santa must love you.
Eric: But if you get...
Micah: Santa is going to have a hernia.
[Eric and Selina laugh]
Eric: If you get it, and it doesn't kill you lifting it up to your room, if you have a chance to review it, [laughs] or a chance later in the hospital when you're getting your back replaced, please let us know how you think of it. And I actually will be following the story, and I'll be really interested in learning what those other books are all really about.
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