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Hello, ladies and gentlemen and welcome back to the show! I'm Andrew Sims.
Ben: I am Ben Schoen.
Kevin: I'm Kevin Steck.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
Andrew: And this is the show where we bring you the latest in Harry Potter news, theories, discussion, gossip...
Ben: Bottle caps.
Andrew: Bottle caps? I don't even... [laughs]
Ben: Toilet paper.
Andrew: Whatever... Whatever you can imagine related to Harry Potter, it is in this show!
Ben: Paper towels.
Andrew: Well, almost everything. We're getting there. We're making our way until we can expand everything. [laughs] What am I supposed to say now?
Ben: He's a little bit out of touch with reality people.
Kevin: Notice the verbal pauses.
Andrew: I forgot how we intro. I need like a teleprompter. [laughs] Before we go anywhere else, first let's check in with Micah Tan for the past week's top Harry Potter news stories.
Micah: All right, Andrew.
Warner Brothers announced Wednesday that in its first 24 hours of being on store shelves, the Goblet of Fire DVD sold nearly 5 million copies. On this impressive accomplishment, President of Warner Home Video Ron Sanders had this to say:
The DVD was released in Canada and U.S. on Tuesday. Feedback has been strong as Entertainment Weekly gave it a B+ rating and Aced Magazine gave it a very positive review.
Speaking of Goblet of Fire, Warner Bros. released its final episode of their Goblet of Fire podcast. They wrapped things up with a small interview with the cast and included another clip from the Goblet of Fire DVD.
Forbes has published their annual list of the richest people in the world, and they have ranked JK Rowling at #746 with an estimated net worth of $1 billion! A passage from the write-up said:
In addition to writing Book 7, Jo took the time to do some major changes on her website. There are plenty of new puzzles to solve. All the secrets we've heard of that have been verified to work can now be found on our updated JKRowling.com Info section.
The interview J.K. Rowling did with TVR while visiting Romania earlier this year along with coverage of the trip, was aired TVR on Thursday night in Romania (which was roughly 4 PM here on the East Coast). Keep checking back to MuggleNet.com as we get video of this event.
The new member of MuggleNet's network of sites is EvannaLynchFans.com. This site will be your one-stop place for news, pics, bios, interviews and more on the actress who's set to play Luna Lovegood in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.
A few weeks ago, the American book publisher Scholastic introduced a new addition to the Fun Stuff section with special downloads for each Potter book. Only Sorcerer's Stone content was available when it first opened, but yesterday they introduced the Chamber of Secrets area. Sections for the other four books will be available in the coming weeks.
Kids television station Nickelodeon has commenced voting for its annual Kids Choice Awards. Goblet of Fire is up for Favorite Movie and the entire series is up for Favorite Book.
The Kids Choice Awards will be aired live from Los Angeles on April 1st.
Speaking of awards, Goblet of Fire picked up Best Movie and Ralph Fiennes won Vilest Villain when the 2006 AOL Moviefone Moviegoer Awards were revealed on February 28th.
That's all the news for this March 12th, 2006, Episode 30 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show!
Andrew: All right, thank you, Micah. First of all, we owe everyone a little apology for not showing up last week.
Ben: It was all Andrew's fault.
Andrew: It was just one of those weeks...
Kevin: It was all Andrew's fault.
Andrew: [coughs] No, it wasn't.
Ben: Yes, it was.
Andrew: It was just one of those weeks. Sorry, I had a life last week.
Ben: He had to go get tutored for his Pre-Algebra homework.
[Andrew and Kevin laugh]
Kevin: Because he can't count.
Andrew: I'm in Algebra II, Ben. I'm in Algebra II.
Ben: Andrew can't count.
Andrew: [laughs] It was just one of those weeks where we couldn't all get together. The good news is that we're not going to be skipping anymore weeks because I refuse to let PotterCast get an episode higher than us. That will not be happening!
Ben: Actually, so one week...
Andrew: What was that?
Ben: One week we'll actually, probably do two episodes, so we one-up them.
Kevin: Yeah. We could always knock them off. You know?
Andrew: Knock them off what?
Kevin: We could crash one of their computers. Make it...
Andrew: Oh, right. No, that would be a good idea. They started like four weeks after us, but somehow they are still, they are right on our tail now. And I'm pretty sure we only skipped two weeks. I'm not sure how that happened. But anyway, a little correction from last week. Micah, would you care to elaborate?
Andrew: Jumping the gun there, yesterday...or last week.
Micah: Yeah, you know, I apologize. Anna Friel is British not American. I read it on Leaky. Sorry.
Andrew: Good one, good one.
Micah: So, credit them with the mistake just as much.
Andrew: You know, we're not perfect. And then also, to make up for not being around last we decided that it would be good to give you guys a sneak peek of what our plans are for the show, because it's been 30 episodes now. Congrats guys, by the way - 30 episodes! It's impressive.
Andrew: It's been 30 shows and it's been the same format, we've been doing the same thing, week by week, and people enjoy it, people love it. You know? But, we want to add it. So, we have four or five new segments. They are going to be intermixed week by week. Some won't show up one week, some won't show up the other. Just want to go through them real quick.
Andrew: The original segments will still be on the show, except for the Main Character Discussion - we're expanding that into something even bigger. So, the first segment we will doing is Listener Rebuttal. And this will be the part of the show where listeners can send in e-mails in response to theories that we've discussed the week before. And we'll response to the listener's response, if it is needed. Because each week we get tons of e-mails saying, "Hey! I disagree. Hey! Just expand on that!" Blah, blah, blah. We're going to start reading your e-mails to go a little farther into what we talked about. So, this way, this gets everyone else more involved.
And then the Editorial Discussion. Micah and Laura, you two are leading that...yes?
Andrew: Can you quickly elaborate on that? Sorry to put you on the spot, but...
Laura: Basically, what we're going to be doing - I don't know if it is going to be an every week thing. We'll probably alternate it, like you said.
Andrew: It'll be... Yeah, it'll be every other week.
Laura: Mhm. Well, we're going to be going through the editorials on MuggleNet and picking out the best ones, and getting a hold of the people who wrote them, and just doing a short little, ten-minute interview with them, discussing some theories. So, it'll be good stuff.
Andrew: Our Editorials Section on the site has become so big and popular - it's just the perfect segment for MuggleCast.
Micah: Yeah, and is it this week? Are you going to do... Are you going to put it in this week or are we going to wait?
Andrew: Next week the first one is going to air.
Micah: Okay. So...
Andrew: You guys already recorded the first one.
Andrew: So, everyone should look forward to that next week.
And then the Theory of the Week. This is a new, clever segment we sort of put together. Each week...or...well, when we decide to... [laughs] Each week we will be covering one theory that is popular in the Chamber of Secrets Forums (cosforums.com) - MuggleNet.com's official forums. Any theories that are in there that are being discussed heavily, that are getting a lot of buzz - we're going to talk about in the show and put our spin on them.
And another one. This one was suggested by Emily, who as most of you remember was on the show a few weeks ago. I don't know. I guess we're going to make this the working title for now. I don't know. I'm not really crazy about it. I don't know if you guys are. The "What If..." Segment - where we take a situation and work out what would happen if something happened differently in the Harry Potter series. So, say for example as Kevin suggested [laughs] - What would happen if Ginny was not handed the book from Lucius Malfoy? [gasps] Well, we sort of all know what... [laughs]
Ben: Oh my gosh, then of Secrets wouldn't even matter anymore.
Andrew: That's sort of a goofy example. So, basically this will be the part of the show where we examine theories surrounding the "what ifs" of the series.
And then finally, what will be the pinnacle of the show: MuggleCast Chapter-by-Chapter. Where we go through every single chapter of Books 1-6 and discuss every little thing, well, relatively important little thing that has happened in that chapter. We're going to do a couple of chapters per show depending how, what content was in each chapter. So, like say the final chapters of Book 5. Those were huge. Those will probably require their own shows. But like...
Kevin: And we'll also provide an unabridged copy of the chapter for each of you.
Kevin: Not really.
[Kevin and Andrew laugh]
Andrew: We won't. But this is going to be fun because...
Kevin: As we get arrested.
Andrew: ...we're going to get - basically, everyone who is listening is going to be on the same page as everyone else, as the hosts, as your fellow listeners. Everyone is going to know what's going on, and we're all going to have the same information in our heads because we're all discussing the same things. And then ahead of time, we're also going to let everyone know what chapters we're going to be discussing next week. So, you too can read the chapters ahead of time and when we're discussing you can be like, "Oh yeah, I remember that." It's going to be a lot of fun. There's going to be some serious participation going on. So, we're really looking forward to those. And just a reminder - this is not going to get rid of the "unpredictability" that has made this show so popular. We've gotten a few e-mails actually, people saying, "Is this going to take away from you guys going off and talking about whatever?" And no...
Kevin: We're pretty sporadic people.
Andrew: Believe or not, we do plan some of this, laughs although it may not seem like it. So, this will all begin with Episode 31, just a week away.
Andrew: All right, now moving on to some discussion here. Unless you've been living under a rock, you know that the Goblet of Fire DVD was released in the United States and Canada this week, much to the delight of fans across the United States and "Eh" Canada. So, initial thoughts.
Ben: See Andrew, here's what happened. I was in a good mood and you had to go talking about the Goblet of Fire DVD.
Ben: You just downright bummed me out.
Andrew: Wait, why? What was the issue? I liked it, personally.
Ben: It was terrible.
Andrew: Why do you say that?
Ben: Okay, so I go to Wal-Mart. First, I find the regular edition. I can't find the Special Edition. I make my way up front, finally find it, and I go to check it out and this DVD is already cursed because my debit card doesn't even work to buy this DVD.
Ben: When it has worked every time before this.
Kevin: That's because you have no money.
Ben: So, there's the first thing that went wrong. Oh, funny!
Ben: Geez, Kevin. That hurts. That hurts. And then so I come home and I finally start watching it, and since I've already seen the movie enough, I pop in the Special Features DVD. And it takes me three years to find the actual interviews. And then there are some really lame games on there. And it's just really not that great. And I was pretty upset that I had to pay $23.00 for a DVD that, for a two-disc DVD set, when it used be just the normal edition had the deleted scenes and all that stuff.
Kevin: Yeah, it's true.
Kevin: Yeah, that was a little annoying.
Ben: It was just a disappointment. I don't know, it depends on... Little kids will probably like the games. Like if you have a little kid in mind, like Andrew does, then you'll probably like those games. But...
Laura: Yeah, but I think we read that in one of the reviews that we posted on the site, who can actually navigate those games with a TV remote?
Andrew: DVD games never work out!
Andrew: They are just... Yeah.
Kevin: They're horrible. Yeah.
Laura: They've had them on the other Harry Potter DVDs and they've all been really bad. So, I don't think there was...
Kevin: So, why would they try to put them in?
[Laura and Kevin laugh]
Laura: Fill up space? [laughs]
Andrew: Because it's a marketing scheme. You look on the back of this cover, I guarantee you it is going to talk about the games. It does, but it doesn't call them games. It just says... Well, it says "Dragon Challenge," "Lake Challenge," and "Maze Challenge." They are to appeal to younger kids.
Kevin: Now what about, did you like the...
Andrew: Well hold on, wait a second, did anyone else play the games, because I didn't. I had no interest in them.
Laura: I accidentally ended up clicking on one, but I didn't play it.
Kevin: Yeah. Yeah, it just kept yelling at me.
Andrew: It wasn't too specific. Like the interviews, they don't say "Interviews." They say, "In Too Deep - The Second Task," which you get the idea, but it would be nice if...
Laura: I actually didn't have a hard time navigating it. I found everything just fine.
Andrew: No, well Ben what were you saying, it took you three years?
Ben: See there's, there's Laura, there's Laura trying to make herself feel socially superior to me.
Laura: No, it said something like "Discussion With The Cast." [laughs]
Ben: No, it didn't. It said, "At Hogwarts - Take A Trip."
Kevin: That's true. Yeah.
Laura: Yeah it says, "At Hogwarts." And then you click it. And then you've got all the little things and it says something with the cast.
Ben: Yeah, but who would think, who would think to click, who would think to click "At Hogwarts"? I clicked all the others before I finally got to "At Hogwarts."
Laura: Oh, well that's your fault. [laughs]
Andrew: Well, it would be assumed that "At Hogwarts" would be where all the main specials are because it's Hogwarts.
Ben: Oh okay, yeah. I just assumed that.
Andrew: That's what I did.
Laura: Yeah, same.
Andrew: I just looked at it and said - I said, "Dragon Area, Lake, Maze, Hogwarts - where would all the information be?"
Ben: Now that's stupid.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Ben: No, you did not even think that.
Andrew: Well, it's true. You shouldn't have to think about it. [laughs]
Laura: No, you shouldn't.
Andrew: I automatically clicked on "Hogwarts" because it's Hogwarts.
Ben: Okay, but I have to make a comment that it is a lot better than the previous DVDs. Well, especially Two and Three weren't bad...
Laura: Yeah, that one...
Ben: But One...
Laura: WAS BAD!
Kevin: Yeah, everyone complained about that.
Ben: You had to win...
Ben: You had to get through the Chambers and fight Voldemort. I don't even remember if you had to fight Voldemort. You had to get past [in dumb voice] Fluffy, the three-headed dog.
[Micah and Laura laugh]
Ben: I finally did that.
Kevin: We actually posted a solution for that on MuggleNet because people were having so much problems - so many problems with that.
Andrew: Yeah, I remember that. You had to go through this whole thing just to get to the deleted scenes.
Laura: And they weren't even that good.
Laura: That was the problem.
Andrew: Speaking of deleted scenes, I enjoyed them this time around. And I am glad they put it all into one video...
Kevin: I'm glad...
Andrew: ...all into one video so you were forced to watch all of them.
Kevin: I didn't like that. I liked being able to skip through, you know? Because some of the scenes are really crappy and they were cut for reason.
Andrew: But you still want to watch them all, don't you?
Kevin: Yeah, you watch them all the first time, but after that, I mean if you want to see a deleted scene you go click that deleted scene. I think it's just pure laziest to not make a menu for it and have a "Play All" option. [laughs]
Andrew: Now, the one deleted scene that was especially interesting was the whole Yule Ball one where the Weird Sisters are rocking out. Me and John from Leaky were talking about this earlier and did everyone watch it?
Laura: Yeah, I am glad they left that out. [laughs]
Kevin: I was too.
Andrew: I'm glad they left it out, but the intro was a much, much better one.
Andrew: It didn't just cut to some random rock guys...
Laura:I thought it was kind of lame. [laughs]
Andrew: ...you know, playing out. Well, it stretching out six minutes was really lame. I mean, we're all glad that they cut that out. That would have taken away from the movie so much.
Ben: Okay, are we going to get into this theory about video editing and what transitions are the best, right Andrew?
Andrew: Yes. No, I'm saying the intro was much better to the whole Weird Sisters thing.
Andrew: In the final cut, it just goes into some random rock concert, and you're like, "What the hell is this? There's no rocking at Hogwarts. It's all classical music."
Laura: That's no true, they had the band.
Kevin: That's not true at all. No.
Andrew: Where do...
Kevin: Didn't you watch the interview?
Andrew: But, from a movie standpoint. Yeah, I watched the interviews.
Kevin: Where they said that it's not all classical music.
Andrew: I know, but if you only watch the movies and then all of a sudden this rock-n-roll music starts showing up, you can't tell me that fit into the movie.
Kevin: I think it did.
Laura: I thought it was fine. I didn't see any problems with it.
Kevin: It's a ball.
Ben: It's supposed to be a concert.
Kevin: It's a dance for teenagers.
Kevin: Do you think they are going to be playing...
Andrew: Yeah, but at Hogwarts? Have you ever heard rock music... I don't know, I just thought it was weird to me.
Ben: They're not going to be listening to...
Kevin: Have you ever heard all teenagers listening to classical music?
Ben: No, no, they're not going to be playing...
Andrew: I know all... No, but...
Kevin: YOU'RE WRONG!
Andrew: Ever seen a teenager with a wand that can do magic? It's completely different.
Kevin: So, that makes them all classical lovers?
Ben: Okay, no, not true, not true. No, Andrew, come on dude. They've had to, throughout the entire series, it's a parallel to real life. Just because [imitating Andrew] no real teenagers carry around magical wands, [laughs] that doesn't matter. What matters is teenagers, they start developing relationships with members of the opposite sex, like we saw in Goblet of Fire. And they like rock music. I don't see what the big deal is.
Laura: Yeah, I thought it was good.
Andrew: I just thought it felt out of place.
Ben: It may seem out of place.
Laura: One thing that I really like when I was watching the deleted scenes was the fact that as I watched them, there weren't any of them that specifically jumped out at me and said, "This should have been in the movie."
Laura: With all of the previous movies there have been at least two or three scenes in the deleted I was like, "Why didn't you put that in? That would have just, you know, two-minute scene - it would have explained so much." But with this it was like, you know, these scenes weren't bad, but I don't think they would have added all that much. So, I think it goes to show that Mike Newell did a good job deciding what to cut and what not to.
Ben: Yeah, and actually on the DVD Dan Radcliffe said that when he was filming the movie there would be a time when he said, "Oh, I didn't very well in that scene."
Kevin: Oh yeah.
Andrew: I remember that.
Ben: When he goes back and watched it, he saw that they actually deleted it.
Andrew: [imitating Dan] "Oh, thank god they cut it."
Ben: Yeah. Speaking of that interview, what did you guys think of that interview?
Andrew: The main one?
Ben: The interview with Dan, Emma, and Rupert?
Kevin: I think it was pretty cool.
Andrew: I thought it was good. I think, eh...
Ben: I miss Lizzo. I miss Lizzo. [laughs]
Kevin: The whole fan, the fan question thing was awkward.
Andrew: Yeah, you know... Oh yeah that girl, P.S. that girl who was wearing the black shirt, curly hair. I don't know if you remember specifically.
Kevin: Here, let me get her name.
Andrew: She actually found out about that contest through MuggleNet, which was pretty cool.
Laura: I remember that.
Andrew: I had actually talked to her. Yeah, remember? I think you were one of the people who... Well, no it might have been K'lyssa. But I talked to her on AIM and she was all excited. You know what else is pretty lame - Disc II, when you put it in, what do you get? Trailers for WB movies.
Kevin: I was going to say that!
Laura: Oh, I skipped that.
Kevin: That was the first thing I was going to say.
Andrew: It's so dumb!
Ben: Okay, why does it matter thought guys, seriously? Why can't you just press skip twice?
Kevin: You spend, you spend $7.00 more for the Special Edition and you stick in the Special Edition disc and you get advertisement.
Andrew: I know. Yeah.
Kevin: [imitating Ben] So?
Andrew: It more understandable to play it at the beginning of the movie, not at the Special Features disc, that doesn't make sense.
Kevin: I know.
Laura: Just press the "Menu" button.
Ben: Why does it matter though?
Andrew: Who wants to watch that?
Ben: Why does it matter?
Andrew: You buy this...
Ben: You donít have to watch it though.
Andrew: You spend this extra money...
Ben: Itís a DVD, you donít have to watch it. The first complaint that I originally had with DVDs was that they didnít have previews, and thatís when sometimes I say, "Thatís a good movie, I want to go see that movie." And so actually I like the previews sometimes. It wasnít like it was some ad for, "Buy your Clorox Bleach Now."
Ben: Or George Foreman.
Andrew: So, you actually watched them?
Ben: "You buy my grill!
Andrew: So, you watched them?
Andrew: You watched the trailers?
Ben: I didnít watch them this time because I needed to start watching it so I could, to get ready for the show, but if I had more time, I would have watched.
Andrew: But Kevin made a good point.
Andrew: If you paid an extra seven bucks to get this one disk, why are they going to put more trailers on it?
Kevin: I say throw it on the first disk and then...
Ben: Why does it matter?
Kevin: ...and have them skip through that.
Kevin: On the Special Features disk...
Ben: If youíre Warner Bros. and you have the opportunity to make, to make a few million, a few hundred thousand dollars just putting those two ads on there, and itís not that big of an inconvenience.
Kevin: Yeah, but why not put it on the first disk?
Ben: Why not do it?
Laura: Thatís kind of how I feel because thereís this nice little button on your DVD remote that says, "Menu." [laughs]
Ben: That says, "Skip," "Skip." Yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, I know. Yeah, when you press "Menu," it skips it, but it was just out of place.
Ben: If it was mandatory for you to watch them...
Andrew: All right, okay.
Ben: If someone tied you down to you chair...
Andrew: All right, all right.
Ben: ...and held your eyelids open and made you watch it.
[Ben and Laura laugh]
Ben: Actually, a rep from WB came over and did that to me. Tied me down.
Andrew: The point me and Kevin are trying to make is that theyíre just out of place. Thatís all.
Ben: And the point Iím trying to make is that you can stop your whining.
Andrew: So, the rest of the behind-the-scenes stuff was good. Ran about five to ten minutes a piece. They all gave great looks into developing the movie.
Laura: Did you guys notice that during the features on the three tasks, there were a couple of bits that werenít in the movie and they werenít in the deleted scenes either? Like certain lines that people would say and they just sort of disappeared.
Kevin: Yeah, yeah.
Laura: Like there was one with Voldemort when he was talking about - I forget. It was about the Lord give-ith or something like that. I canít remember what it was, but it wasnít in the movie and it wasnít in the deleted scenes either.
Andrew: I just, the Quidditch World Cup, it jumps - the movie just jumps right into the Quidditch World Cup and everything moves so fast in that first ten minutes. Before you know it, youíre at Hogwarts...
Laura: Yeah, thatís the first 10 chapters, right there.
Andrew: Yeah, and plus I would have liked to see a little game play from the Quidditch World Cup because the intro to that is so huge. They spend more time with Harry walking up the steps getting to his seats than they do with the actual game play. [laughs]
Laura: Well, I liked how Mike talked about pulling out the central theme in the movie being a thriller, and how he sort of chose what was more important to emphasize that theme and I think that while the beginning does rush a lot, it was a necessity because there was no way...
Kevin: Yeah, definitely.
Laura: ...that we were going to get everything in there. The book is just so massive, itís just, it's impossible.
Andrew: Unless you just expand it another ten minutes, which, you know, we could talk about that forever. [laughs]
Laura: Yeah. Well, itís never going to happen. I mean...
Andrew: Yeah, there was no explanation with the Quidditch World Cup. They just showed up there.
Andrew: So, unless youíve read the book, youíre like, "What the...what is this?" [laughs]
Andrew: Is this football on brooms? What the...?
Laura: I had a friend who was like that. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh, really?
Laura: She was just sitting beside me just sort of staring at the screen like, "What is this?" She was pretty confused.
Andrew: Hey, hey. Guess who I am. [Impersonating Krum] "You have no business here. This room is for champions and friends." [laughing] Who am I? Hey, I only said one line in the entire film.
Laura: I think youíre Fleur.
Ben: Stanislav Ianveski.
Andrew: I donít know. I think he should have had more then one line. [laughs] Especially, you know, people were looking forward to seeing these three champions shine.
Laura: Yeah, but according to Hermione, Viktor is more of a physical being.
Andrew: Oh, right.
Andrew: I almost forgot. [laughs]
Laura: I sort of have this visual of them throwing that line in last minute to explain the fact that he says nothing in the movie.
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] Like, guys, heís not a talker. Heís just, you know, he's touchy-feely.
Ben: Heís the strong and silent type. Another thing about Fleur I liked on the DVD was when they were doing the interview with her, she - we finally got to see some personality behind Clemence Poesy then what weíve seen before, and I really like that because she is really attractive. Donít tell Emma I said that, you know, but...
Laura: I actually kind of liked the whole thing with the champions. I thought it was a little drawn out, but they also seemed really funny. Like when I was watching it, they were all really - they had a good sense of humor and they werenĎt annoyed that they had this camera following them around.
Andrew: Yeah, whoís - excuse me for forgetting his name - whoís the guy who plays Cedric?
Laura: Robert Pattinson. Heís really funny.
Andrew: Robert Pattinson. [laughs] I should have asked Matt. Yeah, he was really loose. Like, I never expected him - because whenever you see him in the films heís always, heís not always like loose like he was. He was very fun. And WB, Iím sort of surprised WB would let that sort of thing go into the film, onto the DVD because that was really - you saw a lot of stuff. Like Leavesden Studios.
Ben: I like the part where, whatís his name? Pattinson ran up and tackled Ianveski, you know? Where he sort of ran into him? I don't know, they were just like, playing around on set.
Andrew: Oh yeah. Yeah, when they were saying when that was their...
Ben: First day together.
Andrew: ...yeah, first day on the set.
Andrew: Any thoughts, Micah?
Kevin: Micah has...
Micah: No, actually I have kind of a story because I didnít buy the right DVD.
Andrew: Oh no. No wonder you're not talking.
Micah: And when I got home today and put in the DVD, I didnít see any special features on there. So...
Andrew: You know, Iím sure a lot of people are going to be confused by that, because thereís never been three versions of it.
Kevin: Yeah. I think itís stupid still.
Ben: The one that I saw was... Yeah, at my Wal-Mart, the Wal-Mart I went to, there were four of them because there was one that came with the Scene-It? DVD.
Ben: In a dual pack.
Andrew: Yeah, and someone emailed us today...someone emailed us today about the Scene-It? thing. It doesnít come with the special features. Itís just...
Laura: Oh my god.
Andrew: And the Scene-It?, it's a demo. Well, here's the kicker, itís a demo version of Scene-It?. [laughs] Itís not even the real thing.
Laura: That Scene-It? game, Iím sorry, is really lame.
Andrew: Iíve never played it.
Andrew: Remember in that hotel. [laughs] At the premiere, Eric - like right after the premiere.
Kevin: Oh yeah.
Andrew: I think it was premiere night. Ericís like, "Letís play Scene-It?! Letís play Scene-It?!" [laughs] And weíre all like, "No!"
Kevin: Enough is enough.
Andrew: Overall, a good DVD right?
Ben: Yeah, it was all right.
Kevin: Yeah, I was a little disappointed with the features, but...
Laura: Yeah, itís fair.
Andrew: Itís more than whatís been there in the past.
Kevin: Yeah, but the thing is that, when people are rating DVDs now, they expect special features without purchasing anything else.
Andrew: Oh yeah. Three or four years ago that was unheard of, all this special features stuff.
Kevin: Exactly. And on this DVD, if you buy the basic version, you get nothing. So, Iím sure theyíre going to rate it...
Micah: Thatís right.
Kevin: ...a two out of ten.
Ben: Micah would know.
Kevin: Theyíre going to rate it horribly because itís - DVD-wise, itís crappy. It doesnít include anything.
Andrew: I just donít understand. Why even give people that choice to get the one without special features?
Kevin: Youíd think theyíd want them to spend more money.
Andrew: Yeah, do the special features only, and make $7.00 for every million more people that are doing the special features, but everyone does.
Laura: Not to mention...
Andrew: Plus thereís...
Laura: ...every store I went into, had the normal edition out front. You had to go and find the Special Edition.
Laura: It was hidden.
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