Andrew [Show Intro with music in background]: Because Sunday just wouldn't exist without it (thank you Kristen, 18, of Massachusetts) - this is MuggleCast Episode 46 for July 01st, 2006.
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Hello, everyone and welcome to this LIVE - oh, wait. No it's not.
Andrew: I'm Andrew Sims.
Ben: I am Ben Schoen.
Kevin: I'm Kevin Steck.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Jamie: And I'm still last, even after being away for ages.
Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.
Andrew: Three cohosts return this week. Kevin and Jamie, you've been off for a while. And Laura, we just don't care about you.
Andrew: But yeah, we were going to the LIVE podcast this week, and SkypeCast apparently cannot handle our awesomeness.
Ben: We're too much!
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]
Ben: MuggleCast is too hot to handle.
Ben: There's the title for this week's show, "Too Hot To Handle."
Andrew: "Too..." Perfect! Perfect! I love it!
Ben: Do that.
Andrew: All right, so before we do anything else, we already have a title already let's just wrap the show up now.
Andrew: Goodnight everyone! Micah Tannenbaum is standing by in the MuggleCast News center with the latest Harry Potter news stories.
Micah: Back in May, Bloomsbury co-founder Liz Calder predicted that the seventh book in the Potter series would be released in 2007. Now, a new article released by Reuters also predicts the aforementioned:
USA Today wanted to know which characters the "experts" thought were going to die in Book 7, so they asked Emerson and Melissa from The Leaky Cauldron to give some odds. If you head over to MuggleNet.com, you can read the full article. And even though they called them separately, notice the similarity of the numbers we provided - must be that love connection.
For their work on Goblet of Fire, Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson have been nominated for SyFy Genre awards in the categories of best actor and best actress, respectively. Well, we hope. The pair also picked up nominations for best young actor, and the fourth Harry Potter movie is up for best movie. Voting will commence on July 10th, finishing 30 days later.
James Walters, young Sirius Black, recently did an interview with Harry Potter FanZone in which he discussed the Order of the Phoenix set, how he landed the role, other cast members, filming, and director David Yates.
The Queen's 80th birthday celebration at Buckingham Palace took place last Sunday and a report by CBBC Newsround stated that JK Rowling was one of the first stars to arrive. Additionally, Rupert Grint, Emma Watson and Matthew Lewis were in attendance to see the show. There is video, photographs, screen caps, and reports available from the birthday bash over on MuggleNet.com.
And on Monday, Jo did a rare, live interview on UK talk show Richard & Judy where she revealed some interesting information. Again video, transcript, and screenshots from the interview are available on MuggleNet.com. She discussed the potential of Harry Potter being killed in the final book and said "one character got a reprieve" and "two die that I didn't intend to die." And while JK didn't divulge the characters on the show, she did sit down and talk to me afterwards, revealing just who was saved and the duo that she killed. And this is earth-shattering news: the two who die are **** and **** while the one who received the reprieve is ****. Can you all believe that?
That's all the news for this July 01st, 2006 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.
Andrew: All right. Thank you, Micah. [laughs] Or should I say Miz-ike-ah, recommended by Katie Brown.
Jamie: Or, or, or M to the T Dawg.
Kevin: Oooh, getting fancy.
Andrew: Or how about, Sir Baums-alot. [laughs]
Jamie: Sir Baums-alot.
Andrew: That's funny on a few different levels.
Ben: Dude, you can't say "bomb" on Skype.
Andrew: That's from... [laughs] Yeah, I forgot.
Ben: What did you...
Jamie: Funny - it is funny on a few different levels. It is.
Andrew: It is. It is. That one comes from Kaitlyn, 16, from Chicago. [laughs] Keep the names coming.
Andrew: All right, so as we said MuggleCast LIVE did not work out like we hyped up so much and we're going to be...
Ben: Well, you hyped up.
Andrew: I was excited, what can I say? We're working on getting a streaming server. We had a couple of people e-mail us in to help us out, but it looks like Jeremy is going to help us set up an entire system where we can stream the show, and as many people can come in as they want, and there won't be any problems. It'll work a lot better then SkypeCast.
Las Vegas and New York City are quickly approaching. We remind everyone to visit LeakyMug.com, our brand-new Leaky Mug website - in association with PotterCast and The Leaky Cauldron. [clears throat] You can RSVP for either show or both of them just by going there. You can also find out information on The Leaky Mug, about the cohosts, and Mucho Moro.
Andrew: [clears throat] ...you haven't been on the show for a while, but you're always IMing us and letting us know how excited you are for this podcast.
Jamie: I am. I am.
Andrew: Why don't you let everyone know.
Jamie: I am ridiculously excited.
Ben: Jamie, Jamie?
Jamie: Yes, Ben?
Ben: If you had to use two words to describe...
Ben: ...how excited - two words to describe how you're feeling about Vegas, would you say proud and excited?
Jamie: That - yes!
Ben: Would that be a fair assessment.
Jamie: I'd say, I'd say, I'd say proud, excited, pleased - oh, that's three words!
Jamie: No, I am. I am so excited. If I try to speak to say the words how excited I am, they won't come out. Just because the English language can't convey such excitement, in fact.
Andrew: [laughs] Okay, now you're probably giving people the impression that you're being sarcastic. [laughs]
Ben: He - no...
Jamie: No, okay. Sorry, I am actually not being sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic. I actually can't wait.
Andrew: This is your second trip back to the US, isn't it?
Jamie: It is, but I'm not used to such heat so I am actually just going to melt...
Jamie: ...and be a puddle on the floor.
Kevin: Oh, okay.
Andrew: The climate...
Jamie: No, seriously, 106 degrees - the closest I've gotten to that is like sticking my head in an oven, which I do do regularly, obviously. You know?
Kevin: That's his self-tanning method.
Jamie: It's a British custom.
Andrew: And then...
Jamie: It's a British custom.
Andrew: And then, let's tell people about your trip. Then after Vegas, you're actually staying at my house.
Jamie: Oh yeah! Oh yeah!
Andrew: Which is going to be totally weird - with Ben.
Ben: Me, me and - Jamie and I are going to cuddle.
Andrew: We're going to...
Jamie: We are going to cuddle!
Andrew: We're going to show you a time in Medford.
Kevin: [laughs] Oh yeah!
Andrew: [laughs] You just wait!
Kevin: A great time there!
Andrew: Boy, oh boy! Oh darn, I gave out my location. And then we're going to go up to New York City and it's all going to be a lot of fun.
So, don't forget, LeakyMug.com.
Andrew: Also, Jamie's favorite announcement - buy a MuggleCast t-shirt.
Jamie: Oh yeah!
Andrew: Or else you have no reason to live.
Jamie: Please, please, please buy them. I mean, we've never mentioned it before, but we do need to finally, you know?
Jamie: It's just...
Ben: Hey, guys?
Jamie: What, Ben?
Ben: I have a special - a very special Top 10 list this week.
Ben: That has to go in right now, okay?
Andrew: Ohhh. Geez. All right. Okay.
Ben: This is dire. Just give me one second to pull it up.
Ben: Top 10 list has been gone for quite some time, okay? And so, it is absolutely essential we bring it back this week. And here's why: the Top 10 Reasons To Buy 11 More MuggleCast T-Shirts.
Andrew: Was this created by you or someone else?
Jamie: Oh my god!
Ben: Someone sent this in.
Andrew: Oh okay.
Ben: Thanks to Kate.
Andrew: Oh okay.
Ben: Since everyone bought one for National T-Shirt Day, of course. Okay.
No. 10: Support MuggleCast so that it can be brought to your iPod every week.
No. 9: Andrew worked so hard to get his bill passed by Congress to make a National MuggleCast T-Shirt Day in the first place. [Andrew and Laura laugh]
No. 8: The MuggleCasters will be able to afford food in Nevada for the LIVE podcast.
Jamie: That's a true one.
No. 7: Because we might as well make June, National Wear Your MuggleCast T-Shirt Month and you'll need more as they wear out.
No 6: You have to buy them or you can't listen to the show, which becomes the new rule for MuggleCast.
Andrew: Oh, I like that.
Ben: No. 5: You can look cool in your Abercrombie and Fitch and your Aeropostale, but seriously, how about a nice 100% cotton black MuggleCast t-shirt?
Andrew: [laughs] Oh yeah.
Jamie: [laughs] Fruits of the Loom.
[Laura and Andrew laugh]
Andrew: Yeah. It's not even Fruits of the Loom. [laughs]
Jamie: Oh my god, if it's not Fruits of the Loom, then...
Andrew: Forget it!
Ben: Hey, here's - here's my favorite.
Ben: Here's my favorite.
Ben: No. 4: You're going to be paying for Jamie's food because he's poor...
Jamie: I am.
Ben: ...and he's living on the streets and has pieced together a computer and headset with stale scraps of bread...
Jamie: I have.
Ben: ...an empty toilet roll - toilet paper roll holder and a old spoon to record the show.
[Everyone laughs throughout]
Jamie: And, and, and, and the tears of small children as well.
Ben: Yeah. No 3...
Jamie: That is a Chuck Norris quote. Hey Ben, also?
Jamie: If it's your favorite, why isn't it No. 1? That's like saying "My Top 10 Favorite Places" and my favorite is No. 4. Why isn't it...
Ben: Hey, hey, be quiet.
Ben: No. 3: A portion of the MuggleCast t-shirt revenue goes to supplying JKR with lined paper
Ben: No. 2: Although you don't know who manufactures Tootsie Rolls, [laughs] you do know who makes MuggleCast t-shirts, and you know you're going to get your money's worth from MuggleCast.
And No. 1: MuggleCast t-shirts are made out of a special synthetic fabric. And in like one year there is going to be something big that happens and all the clothing in the entire world is going to deteriorate. And all we're going to have left are these MuggleCast t-shirts. So, if you want clothing, buy a MuggleCast t-shirt.
Andrew: [laughs] Da da da da da!
Ben: So, there's the Top 10 Reasons To Buy 11 More MuggleCast T-Shirts.
Andrew: I thought it was going to say there was a special chemical that's going to make it degrade into pieces and force people to buy a new one.
Kevin: But that's not a bad idea.
Ben: But, one final announcement.
Andrew: No, we - I still have one.
Ben: But, one more announcement before we go to Andrew's. I'm starting a segment starting next week called "Ben's Mailbag".
Ben: The packages he hasn't sent Jamie, Laura or anyone else. No, no.
Kevin: Yeah, no kidding. Let's do that.
Ben: No, actually, actually, I'd like to take the time right now (next week I'll actually start a real segment), but I'd like to take the time right now to thank two special souls for sending me Subway gift cards. Thank you very much. I forgot.
Andrew: Okay, now just one more piece of business here. As some of you may know the second annual Podcast Awards start on July 01st and the Podcast Awards are recognized around the podcasting community as the pinnacle of all podcasting recognition. So, this year, we want to enter the Podcast Awards and we're shooting for the categories of "Podcast of the Year" and "Best Entertainment Podcast." I definitely think we're able to - we'd be able to get in.
Jamie: Sorry, we're in one more category, as well. It's "Best Podcast Called MuggleCast." We're the only...
Andrew: That's funny, yeah. [laughs]
Ben: That was lame as hell.
Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]
Jamie: I hope we win. I hope we win.
Andrew: You're "Sir" - I'm going to name you "Sir Baums-A-Lot." Oh!
Andrew: [laughs] So, the first phase of these awards is the nomination process which is done by you guys, the listeners, and we have complete faith in being able to pick up a nomination. So, we are asking you for your help. To nominate MuggleCast visit PodcastAwards.com and fill out the nomination form. A link can be found on MuggleCast.com, as well. The form asks for the name of the Podcast you're nominating, which is MuggleCast; the Podcast URL, which is www.MuggleCast.com; your name; your email address, which is used to verify your nomination. There is also a comment box where you let the judges know why you think the Podcast is deserving of being nominated to the category. So, please help us out and again, voting begins on July 1st and runs through July 15th. We ask everyone to support this show by nominating us and we thank everyone very, very much in advance. Then, the Podcast Awards Ceremony - awards show - is late September at the Portable Media Expo and last year...
Ben: In Ontario, California.
Andrew: Yeah, and we really, really...
Kevin: Would like to go to California.
Andrew: ...would like to win this.
Andrew: Yeah, that too, but...[laughs]
Kevin: Yeah. We really want to go to California so please nominate us.
Andrew: No, but seriously, we really would love to win the award...
Kevin: Go to California.
Andrew: ...and show all the podcasters out there that Harry Potter Podcast can...
Ben: We're the best.
Andrew: Yeah, there you go. So, thank you, everyone and visit MuggleCast.com for information.
Ben: And also... And in order to finance our future trip to California, purchase a MuggleCast t-shirt today.
Andrew: There you go!
Jamie: Or eleven of them.
Ben: I love it.
Andrew: That does it for this week's announcements.
Andrew: Now moving on to Listener Rebuttals. Megan, 14 of New Jersey - representing. Megan writes:
Andrew: [laughs] So yeah, I sort of missed that or I could just say that JK Rowling added that to the Rumors portion of her site after the show came out. I'll stick with that one.
Andrew: Next up, Kalie, 15, from California. She writes - and this is a really interesting theory here, to extend on my Book 7 theory, title theory, whatever you want to call it:
And she writes:
And this was Lady Lupin, Editorial #3. So, she was wondering if we had any input on that. I think that's really interesting.
Jamie: It is interesting.
Andrew: Because, and I'll quote again, "The Chariot represents the understanding and harmonizing - harmonizing..." [laughs]
Kevin: Andrew can talk!
Andrew: "...harmonizing of opposing forces to bring about an end to strife and difficulty." So...
Jamie: Where did this title come from, The Chariots of Light?
Andrew: Well, it's basically...
Jamie: Did you make it up, Andrew?
Andrew: No - yes, I made it up.
Andrew: No. [laughs] I called JK Rowling. No, the UK Patent and Trademark Office...
Jamie: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Andrew: You know all that? You might have heard about that a while ago.
Jamie: Like that C-Trading Company or something, wasn't it?
Andrew: Yeah, so they've withdrawn all the bogus trademarks, except for three: Pyramids of Furmat - I don't even know why they have that anymore. Maybe because she brought it up on her Rumors page.
Jamie: No, no, it's not - I don't think it's going to be for, I don't think it's going to be for books or anything. It's going to be for, like, merchandise, and board games, trading cards.
Jamie: Just stuff like that, which it could be useful for. Or, it could just be a complete ploy.
Kevin: It probably is a ploy.
Andrew: Right, well...
Jamie: Create a discussions.
Andrew: Well, listen...
Andrew: The thing was, they had fifteen other titles already trademarked, but then they withdrew them and the only ones that are trademarked right now are the titles of all the books, and those three last titles. And Half-Blood Prince was actually registered back in 2003...
Jamie: By who?
Andrew: ...but it came out... By Warner Brothers or whoever's trademark it is.
Jamie: Yeah, but the thing is, they don't own the - they shouldn't own the trademark to the books.
Andrew: Yeah, they do. They own the rights.
Andrew: They own the rights to the name and stuff so they can't go printing it - so people can't go printing it on shirts and...
Jamie: Wait, wait, wait. Warner Brothers owned the name?
Kevin: Yeah. I think so.
Andrew: I'm pretty sure it's Warner Brothers, yeah.
Jamie: They aren't the publishing company or have anything to do with books.
Andrew: No, but they don't underwrite it because...
Kevin: It doesn't matter, though, because they don't want people infringing on that name, is what's happening.
Laura: No, because I'm opening my book up right now and it says, "Copyright 2005, Warner Brothers."
Jamie: But, ummm...
Andrew: In the book?
Laura: Yeah, in the book.
Andrew: I never knew it said it in the book. [laughs] Geez. Huh, that's interesting.
Jamie: That is weird.
Andrew: Nonetheless... Okay, so Pyramids of Furmat is a dud and not going to happen, but this Chariots of Light is very convincing. So, mark my words, I have the title to Book 7.
Jamie: Well, I think it's interesting, but I don't know. I don't think - I think it's...
Andrew: I understand this skeptic - buh buh buh - the skepticism...
Jamie: I've got to have skepticism about this.
Laura: It just doesn't sound - I don't know.
Kevin: I would think that, as she gets closer to completing the book, we're going to see a bunch of possible titles pop up on the copyright site and we'll have to guess which one it is.
Jamie: Right. I think Chariots of Fire is the music that plays when you're in the cornfield with Emma and you're...
Ben: Yeah, yeah.
Jamie: ...moving towards...
Ben: How does it go, Jamie?
Jamie: It goes, din-din-din-din-din-bam-bam. And then, "Oh, Emma." "Oh, Ben." "Oh, Emma." "Oh, Ben." "Oh, Emma." "Oh, Ben." "Oh, Ben." "Oh, Emma." "Bemma." "Bemma." "Ben." "Em." "Emma." "Bem."
Andrew: All right, next rebuttal...
Ben: We found our blooper.
Andrew: ...Morgan, 15, of Seattle:
Jamie: And that's the end of that one? That's the end of that one?
Andrew: Yes. I said it, I said it. [pretend cough] "I love you, Andrew." End quote. So...[laughs]
Jamie: Okay, can I start this?
Jamie: Okay. I would say that it was mentioned in the book that, specifically, Voldemort liked trophies and a book or a quill - I mean, a book, obviously his diary, but that's completely different to just a normal book. It seems like it would have to be a lot more important than a book or a quill...
Laura: He likes shiny things.
Jamie: ...to be used as a Horcrux. Yeah, but I just think that it would have to be more important than that.
Kevin: Yeah, I think so, too.
Andrew: Chase, 17, of Illinois writes, quote:
Laura: [correcting pronunciation] Occlumency.
Laura: [correcting pronunciation] Occlumency!
Andrew: Occ-u...Occ-u...wah wah...
Laura: [correcting pronunciation] Occlumency!
So, what do you think, Ben? This was your theory on last week's show.
Ben: I think - I'm pretty sure, I'm still pretty sure that the memory's still there. Because, that wouldn't make sense for the memory to disappear completely from your mind. That's like saying - no, that just wouldn't make sense.
Laura: Well, I understand where you are coming from, but I've just been sort of re-reading Order of the Phoenix and whenever Snape is about to teach Harry, he removes the memories because he doesn't want Harry to see them...
Kevin: That's true, yeah.
Laura: ...and if they weren't there...
Kevin: You won't be able to access them. Yep.
Laura: If they were, Harry would be able to see them.
Kevin: What would be the point of putting them in the Pensieve if it's not going to hide them?
Andrew: Oooh alas.
Laura: Not to mention, Dumbledore said, "If like me, you find that your memory is crowded, you can remove memories and put them in the Pensieve."
Jamie: But, when they say...
Ben: I don't think...
Jamie: Has that been anywhere in the books, where it says that if you take one out, you create space for new memories, or is it just...
Laura: [laughs] Is it like a computer, Jamie?
Ben: I don't think - I don't think it's like a hard drive. Like, if you have a hard drive up there, you can only have so many memories. It does work like that.
Jamie: Then it crashes.
Ben: Yeah, then it crashes.
Jamie: It crashes.
Laura: I don't think it's meant to be that way. I think it's more of a method of protection.
Jamie: What, so that if you get captured and tortured...
Laura: Well, yeah, so that no one can shove Veritaserum down your throat.
Ben: But, there's no way that's true because, because why would Dumbledore leave his basin with his memories in it sitting out there in plain view?
Laura: Well, it wasn't really in plain view. He had it...
Ben: What happens if he spills it? What if you spill your Pensieve?
Kevin: Yeah, but you don't know what type of protection is on that.
Ben: Harry just dived right into it.
Kevin: Yeah, but that's Dumbledore.
Laura: Well, maybe Dumbledore meant for him to see it.
Kevin: Exactly, I mean...
Laura: It just doesn't make sense that he would have a place to store his memories if he didn't have a reason to store them there.
Kevin: Not to mention, remember the fact that Dumbledore put the enchantment on the Mirror of Erised, so that you couldn't get the stone unless you actually needed it. I mean, what prevents him from putting something like that on...
Ben: I think the reason that Dumbledore was using a Pensieve to store his memories, was so that after he was gone - he knew his death was imminent - that it would make sense for him to have that, so someone like Harry could use the knowledge that he's accrued through all of these years to be able to become successful on his journey to defeat Voldemort.
Laura: But then, why would Snape store his memories in the Pensieve?
Ben: I don't know. I mean, like, for example, the one memory that Snape had of - the one memory. "Snape's Worst Memory" - the chapter that's in Order of the Phoenix. Itís the case where, maybe, he had a crush on Lily Evans, and maybe the case where that's the only memory he has of her so he wants to keep it safe.
Jamie: No, but like...
Ben: It doesn't make sense for you to say that if you extract it from your head, that you never...
Jamie: It could be, though. It could be, though.
Kevin: No, but...
Ben: That the only way you can read...
Ben: How would that make sense?
Kevin: You would have a recollection but you wouldn't have the memory itself. You know what I mean?
Ben: But, what defines a memory, though?
Jamie: But, Ben, Ben, Ben. Say, if you took out the visual memory of Snape's worst memory, yeah? He could probably still see in his mind the words, "This time, they pick me up and put me down," but he couldn't see it visually. Maybe that's it.
Ben: That doesn't make sense.
Jamie: Well, I'm sorry, Ben. [laughs]
Ben: You should be.
Jamie: You clearly have a doctorate in...
Jamie: ...I don't know, wizard memories.
Laura: Yeah, well, it doesn't make sense that Snape would take those memories out to protect them from Harry seeing them, and then have Harry...
Kevin: Exactly, yeah.
Laura: ...be able to have access to them.
Andrew: That's really convincing and...[laughs]
Andrew: Character discussion this week will be returning back, or - well, we're bringing the segment back. We haven't done it in a couple of shows.
Ben: Actually, it was two weeks ago. The week you were gone, we did it.
Andrew: That's a couple. That's a couple.
[Andrew and Ben laugh]
Andrew: We are going to discuss Voldemort. We saved Voldemort for this week because we were doing a live show, but now, we'll do it prerecorded, anyway [laughs]. So, Tom Marvolo Riddle, otherwise known as Lord Voldemort, possibly the greatest dark wizard of all time, was born to Merope Gaunt on December 31, 1926. Voldemort [laughs] grew up shunned by his father, this being the reason he hates Muggles and anyone associated with them. He is extremely powerful, using his talents to commit such unimaginable atrocities, that many witches and wizards fear speaking his name, and replace it instead with, quote, "You, hyphen...
Laura: Oh my god!
Andrew: ...Know, hyphen, Who."
Laura: [laughs] Just say it!
Jamie: Andrew. Andrew?
Andrew: [laughs] ...He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. All right! I'll get rid of the hyphens! Sorry!
Jamie: Quote, "H - E, hyphen, W H O..."
Andrew: [laughs] Well, I don't want to say it! Voldemort returned to power at the end of Goblet of Fire and is now obsessed with finding out how to destroy The Boy Who Lived.
Jamie: Can I just say, in like...
Jamie: Well, two things. In about four episodes time, can we do a MuggleCast Parseltongue edition?
Jamie: Everything's in Parseltongue.
Andrew: Yeah. Good one.
Laura: Yeah, because I have my Parseltongue...
Andrew: Do it.
Jamie: Yeah. Let's do that.
Laura: ...books right beside me. I'm studying it.
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