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MuggleCast 50 Transcript

Show Intro

Andrew [Show Intro with music in background]: [Andrew and Ben alternate saying "This"] This is MuggleCast,'s brand-new podcasting feature.

Episode [Casters alternate counting Episodes 1 through 49] 50 - Whoa! - for August 08th, 2006.

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[MuggleCasters sing "Happy Birthday"]

Jamie: Okay, this is ridiculous! What a waste of time!

Andrew: No, it's not. It was good.

Ben: MuggleNet! MuggleNet!

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: MuggleNet!

[Singing Elton John with Eric]

It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside

[Singing by himself]

I'm not one of those who can easily hide that it's MuggleCast 50!

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Wooo! Sorry.

Andrew: Hello, everyone. And welcome to this very special edition of MuggleCast - Episode 50, which means we are halfway through our lifespan. We can only last 100 episodes.

Laura: Wooo!

Jamie: Did we say that?

Andrew: Well, no. But... Well, I don't know.

[Eric laughs]

Jamie: Oh my god, no! God, I'm going to cry.

[Laura laughs]

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: I'm just kidding.

Ben: It's like knowing you're going to die. It's the same exact thing.

Andrew: I'm Andrew Sims.

Jamie: Welcome to MuggleCast.

Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Jamie: [fake coughs] I'm not even going to say my name. That'll do. [fake coughs]

Laura: And last again, last again, it's...

Jamie: [fake coughs] That's it. That'll do. I'm Jamie.

Laura: Come on, Jamie. [laughs]

Jamie: I'm going to start being friendly and just saying "Jamie."

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: And I'm Jamie.

Andrew: Maybe we should start doing that. It's very down-to-earth. What were you going to say, Ben?

Ben: I was going to say...

Jamie: [Singing] I can't lie...

Ben: It's like, it's like knowing you're going to die, you know?

[Jamie groans]

Ben: If you knew you were going to die when you were 75, you would plan things out a lot better, but nobody knows when they are going to die, so they take all these chances. So, if we knew we were going to stop doing the show at Episode 100 then we would actually make sure we got everything we wanted to and know that we have to plan things out more. So, I say we don't stop at 100, we stop at like 188 or something. But, I'm just saying.

Eric: Oh my gosh! Fifty shows in, Ben that was wonderful.

Laura: Ben, you're just depressing me.

Eric: That was Ben's first...

Jamie: No.

Laura: I am going to go cry now.

Andrew: That was pretty sad.

Jamie: Should we go have a group cry, then we'll...?

Eric: ...emotional...

Andrew: Yeah, group cry. Show is over.

Ben: Well, hanging around Jamie really changed me these last few weeks.

Jamie: What can I say? Ben's a changed man.

Ben: Yeah.

Jamie: He used to be involved in gang crime...

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: Yeah.

Jamie: ...and carry around four guns. Now, he's a man of God.

Andrew: Oh, god.

Jamie: He really is.

Andrew: Before we go anywhere else, Micah Tannenbaum is standing by in the MuggleCast news center with the past week's top Harry Potter news stories for the, oh, 46th time?


Micah: After six years, author JK Rowling arrived on American shores for two nights of charity readings with authors Stephen King and John Irving to benefit the Haven Foundation and Doctors Without Borders. Academy Award winning actress Whoopi Goldberg opened up the festivities on both nights, while author JK Rowling was introduced on the first evening by comedian Jon Stewart and on the second evening by actress Kathy Bates.

During a Q & A session, Rowling told what she thought Hermione would see in the Mirror of Erised, hinted at possible redemption for a certain Slytherin, explicitly stated that Dumbledore is dead - so, there goes my theory and sorry, you should have sold the domain name while it was hot. She also stated that she may have decided to change the title of Book Seven while in the shower Wednesday morning.

All three authors read from the same passages both nights with Jo choosing Chapter 13 of Half-Blood Prince, "The Secret Riddle".

Videos, pictures, and a full report from both evenings of Harry, Carrie, and Garp are available over on

Our LIVE NYC podcast was a huge success. Thanks to everybody who came out and saw us. Audio and transcript of the show will be available shortly.

Thanks to all your nominations, in what is being called Wizard Rock the Vote, we're asking Harry Potter fans to get out and vote at the 2006 Podcast Awards homepage for both MuggleCast and PotterCast. Simply go to and vote for MuggleCast under People's Choice Podcast and PotterCast under Best Entertainment Podcast. You can fill out the ballot once every 24 hours. Voting ends August 11th.

Speaking of nominations, Nickelodeon Australia has nominated MuggleCast at the 2006 Kids Choice Award in their "Fave Podcast" category! Go to, create a Nickname, and vote for all the categories. The Podcast category is number 15 on the ballot.

Also, Harry Potter is up for best book, Goblet of Fire is up for best movie, Daniel and Rupert are both up for fave actor, and Emma is up for fave actress.

The award ceremony will be held on October 11th.

WB has confirmed that the sixth film, Harry Potter and Half-Blood Prince, is set to be released on November 21st, 2008.

Steve Kloves will return to write the screenplay for Half-Blood Prince. A director has yet to be chosen. The fifth film, Order of the Phoenix, will hit theaters July 13th, 2007.

Finally, as we wished author JK Rowling and Harry Potter a happy birthday this past week, after 50 episodes, we wish a happy birthday to MuggleCast, which is officially one-year old.

That's all the news for this August 08th, 2006 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Andrew: All right, and thank you, Micah.

MuggleCast Turns One

Andrew: And as we mentioned earlier in the show, this is Episode 50. We are one-year old without absolutely zero problems along the way. I can hardly believe it.

Jamie: No, no Andrew, you're absolutely right.

Laura: With none at all.

Jamie: Never.

Ben: Except maybe the ten or so times Jamie would get online when it was time to record and ask for a three-hour nap and for us to wake him up at 4 a.m.

Jamie: Okay, I am not the only one who did that.

Ben: Yeah. [laughs]

Jamie: So...

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]


Andrew: So, a few announcements and then we'll move on to listener rebuttals. Don't forget to purchase you're MuggleCast t-shirt. We gave away a lot of Lumos t-shirts back in Vegas and everyone really enjoyed them and we're probably going to have some more printed up soon to sell in the store.

Also, big credit to Sam of, they are always helping us with these t-shirts and they're our cheap designers. So, we thank them very much. And if you guys, any of you out there listening need a t-shirt designed or some t-shirts printed, then check out Sam and Nate because they really do a great job on all their work.

Also, don't forget to vote for us at Podcast Alley - at We need a new vote from everyone, at least once a month to stay in the Top 10 there.

And don't forget a big one, the Podcast Awards - the 2006 Podcast Awards. Voting is going on. We are nominated in "People's Choice" and PotterCast is nominated in "Best Entertainment." So, we need everyone to vote once a day at, by voting for us in "People's Choice" and PotterCast in "Best Entertainment," so we can both all go to California and have a lot of fun. Right, Ben?

Ben: Remember folks, that is MuggleCast in "People's Choice" and PotterCast in "Best Entertainment Podcast." We cannot stress the importance of this.

Jamie: Yes.

Ben: See, in the past we've seen with charity drives and stuff like that, how when the Harry Potter fans unite, they can do great things. So, we're asking you all to do it again, but this time with the Podcast Awards. Show these people at the Podcast Awards that we're not just some lame Harry Potter talk show that just talks about some children's book.

Andrew: Right.

Ben: We're for real. We're a real podcast with a hardcore audience. So, it's on you!

Andrew: Yeah, man. We're for "realz."

Ben: Yeah.

Jamie: That was beautiful, Ben.

Ben: Thank you, thank you.

Listener Rebuttals - Wizarding Population

Andrew: Listener rebuttals this week, the first one comes from Jonathan, 15, of Vermont. He writes:

"During Episode 49, you debated how many wizards there were in the world. I think it was Andrew who mentioned the World Cup and that huge to Harry could be 2,000 people, but when I looked through Book Four, I noticed that Mr. Weasley mentioned that the stadium seats 100,000. So, there must be at least 100,000 wizards and probably many more, since it is mentioned several times in the book that it was very difficult to get tickets."

Very good point there.

Jamie: That's... Yeah! That's just completely - our argument was completely wrong then. That's brilliant, yeah! [smacks lips] So, there has to be over 100,000.

Andrew: Yeah, that's pretty ironic too because that's how many listeners we have tuning into MuggleCast each week.

Ben: Practically.

Jamie: Yeah, times four million. Then you've got how many people are listening.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Exactly, Jamie.

Listener Rebuttals - Wizarding Population With Jo Excerpt

Andrew: Next rebuttal comes from Melanie of Australia. She has a rebuttal regarding the wizard population as well. She actually quotes the interview between Emerson, Melissa, and JK Rowling. How last year, when Emerson asked her how many wizards there are in the world and she talks about Hogwarts, and she says:

"Here's my thing with Hogwarts. Way before I finished Philosopher's Stone, when I just amassing stuff for seven years between having the idea and writing the book, I sat down and I created 40 kids who enter Harry's year. I am delighted I did because it was so useful. I got 40 pretty flushed-out characters. I never have to stop and invent someone. I know who is in the Year. I know who is in what House. And I know what their percentage is. And I have a few personal details on all of them. So, there were 40. I never consciously thought, 'That's it! That's all the people in this year.' But, that's kind of how it worked out. Then, a I've been asked a few times how many people - and because numbers are not my strong point - one part of my brain knew 40 and another part of my brain said, 'Oh, about 600 sounds right.'"

So, she goes on to say there will be the odd kid whose parents don't want them to go to Hogwarts, but 600 out of the whole of Britain is tiny.

Ben: Well, see I don't really understand what the importance - unless you're nitpicking, with the importance and how many people there really are.

Jamie: But, we do nitpick.

Andrew: Right, and the reason that I brought this one up is because, basically it's saying - Jo's saying that she really has no official number for it.

Listener Rebuttals - Homeschooling And International Government

Jamie: Our last Listener Rebuttal is from Andrea, age 16 from Pipersville, PA. She talked about homeschooling and international government.

"Hi everyone. I had a couple of comments about the issue of homeschooling like you talked about in Episode 49. What reason would wizarding parents have to home school their kids? Magical transportation like Portkeys make it possible to go anywhere for school. So, if parents, for example, the Malfoys, didn't like the school close to them, they could just send their child to a different school. Also, unlike in our world where public schools don't always give a good education or can be considered dangerous, Hogwarts has some of the best witches and wizards as professors and many safety measures. I also have a rebuttal: the wizarding world does have at least some kind of international government. On pg. 95 of the US hardback edition of Order of the Phoenix, it is mentioned that there is an International Confederation of Wizards. I love the show!"

I thought that this is very good, but we don't know that Hogwarts has some of the "best witches and wizards." Obviously, Dumbledore and - are very powerful, but we don't have anything to compare them to. We've seen Karkaroff and Madame Maxime, but we don't know the extent of their ability and stuff like that.

Laura: Now, I'm curious. Last week, when you guys were talking about homeschooling their students, were you talking about primary school, like what would come before Hogwarts?

Ben: We were talking about homeschooling with - like for the entire magical education, not before Hogwarts. Well, it's kind of like homeschooling people throughout high school. It just doesn't really work. They get a substandard education.

Laura: [laughs mockingly] You're so funny Ben. You're so funny.

Ben: Where the students usually aren't as smart. That's just usually how it works.

[Jamie laughs]

Laura: No.

Ben: I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Laura: Yeah, this coming from a kid who is in the Kansas public school system. I don't even want to hear it from you.

Ben: I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[Jamie laughs]

Ben: The only reason I say that stuff is because Laura's home schooled.

Jamie: He's the only one in Kansas public schools.

Ben: Please don't bombard me with e-mails, I'm sorry.

Laura: I thought, I mean, didn't Draco say that his Mom didn't want him to go because of the distance? I mean, I don't see why it would be a big deal to home school your students.

Andrew: It's not a big deal. We were just trying to figure out how many wizard students there are in the wizarding world.

Laura: Oh, okay. Sure.

Andrew: We're just not sure if students who go to Hogwarts could have been home schooled.

Laura: Well, I'm not really clear with that.

Jamie: Yeah, well they still could be home schooled, couldn't they? It doesn't mean that - just because...

Laura: Yeah. Sure they could.

Jamie: People have completely different perceptions. Some people could think that Hogwarts is good, but people who don't believe in the education system might... You know?

Laura: Yeah, because Jo even said that Mrs. Weasley home schooled all of her kids before they went to Hogwarts.

Jamie: No, but that's earlier.

Laura: Yeah, but why...

Jamie: I think she's talking, kindergarten man.

Laura: Yeah, but if you could do it then, why couldn't you do it for ages 11 on up?

Jamie: I think you could, yeah. I think you could.

Laura: I think you could.

Jamie: It goes back to what we were saying about learning magic - being a sort of inexact science. So, it's more you learning it yourself than being taught it. Because, the teachers, I mean, we haven't seen enough classes, but they just say "do this, do this, do this." It seems like, especially in the practical magical subjects and then the people - the students- try to do it.

Laura: Mhm.

MuggleCast: One Year Later

Andrew: All right. So, moving on now. It was a year ago today - at least when we were recording, August 7th - that MuggleCast was released. Our very first episode featuring me, Ben and Kevin and it was just us three. It was a terrible episode.

Ben: Can you really believe it's been a year?

Andrew: I know.

Laura: Awwww. [laughs]

Ben: Oh geez, I don't know. Time flies when you're having fun.

Andrew: Yeah, and it's...

Ben: It's rough being Ben Schoen.

[Andrew and Jamie laugh]

Andrew: And it's just weird to think that the majority of these listeners have been with us for a year now. We've basically been through everything with them [laughs], like holidays and just everything they've been through and just week after week it's been - we're like friends now. We're like a family. But, a question for you guys, did any of you think that this wasn't going to work, or you were just skeptical of the whole concept, or people would just hate it from the start?

Jamie: No, I knew it was going to work right from the beginning.

Laura: I wasn't.

Jamie: Oh my god.

Ben: Oh yeah.

[Ben and Laura laugh]

Jamie: I was thinking... No, I'm being sarcastic.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: I had no idea.

Ben: I wasn't. I actually wasn't skeptical.

Andrew: Well, maybe not so much skeptical, but...

Ben: It was the...

Andrew: ...just like, unsure of how things would take off like they really did.

Laura: I didn't really quite envision the scale...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: ...that it reached, but I thought it would be...

Ben: I don't think anybody...

Laura: ...pretty successful just because of how many people come to the site.

Ben: I don't think anybody would actually think it would become this popular because... I'm not saying this to be arrogant, but we have our own...

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: We have fans now and it's the fans of the fans type of thing and it's really kind of neat.

Laura: Yeah, basically I didn't expect to be signing things. [laughs]

Jamie: Yeah, same.

Laura: That was the big shock. It's like, the people hand me their Harry Potter books and I feel like I'm kind of defiling them. I'm like, I didn't write this.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: But, I don't know, it's kind of odd.

Andrew: I know. I felt weird writing in people's books too because it's the Harry Potter books and really it should just be Jo signing it. But, who would have thought that a year from now - a year from August 7, 2005 - we would have already done three LIVE podcasts and we'd have these signings afterwards. And we'd be - people would be just really involved in the show. Episode 1 though, I'm surprised people caught on to it so quick because I didn't think it went too hot. [laughs]

Ben: Well, actually I hosted that first episode, so I was actually pretty impressed with how it turned out...

[Laura laughs]

Ben: ...the quality. Actually, I never want to listen to that thing ever again.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: The audio quality was bad, the content was bad, it was poorly planned. But hey, you live, you learn.

Andrew: Right, and I really wish all episodes on this show were as easy to produce as that one. I mean, now, they're so much more involved. We have five co-hosts a week now, and our schedules are more conflicting than ever before [laughs] and it's just, there's a lot of pressure on this show. But that first episode, it's so hard to get over your first episode - get past that first episode - because people don't know your personality. They don't know what the show is going to be like. But, once you get past that first show, it's so easy to connect with the listeners.

Ben: Yeah.

Laura: It's scary.

Ben: Any podcast has to know...

Laura: I was really nervous.

Ben: Yeah, it's difficult at first. But, something else that I'd like to point out is I really do - like, sometimes people make me out to be this grumpy old man. I really am not. I really enjoy when all the fans come out and see us at these live events.

Jamie: You're a grumpy young man.

Ben: But anyways...

[Laura laughs]

Ben: I really enjoy when the fans come out to see us at these live events. It really makes you feel - it really makes us feel like we've, you know, even if it's in some minor way, changed some people's lives to some extent. And so, if you get the chance, if you're in the area of any of these live podcasts we're doing, please come out and see us because we enjoy meeting you, I'm sure you enjoy meeting us and it's nice to just be able to mingle with the fans.

Andrew: Right and I mean, I've said this before, there's nothing better than the support from the listeners. I mean, the e-mails are great and we love reading them, but there's something more to actually meeting the people and giving them hugs and talking with them and interacting with these people who - they're always listening to us, but we never really get a chance to hear from them.

Ben: What I really - like I said before - Harry Potter stuff, is meeting all of the lovely people. Right, Jamie? Isn't that the best part? Because when you go to the...

Jamie: It's the best part of it, yeah.

Ben: Because when you go to these events, it's...

Jamie: I love meeting...

Ben: We get to hang out with each other for a week, which is - it has its ups and downs. Hanging out with Andrew can be a bit rough.

Andrew: [laughs] Especially when you steal my bed.

Ben: Going to meet all these fans, you meet people from all different walks of life. For example, at both Vegas and New York City, there was a young lady from Australia and she was really, really nice and it was just - it was great.

Andrew: And Jamie, your first experience with meeting the fans was there in Vegas when - at the Scholastic Podcast with Emerson, Melissa, and Cheryl Klein.

Jamie: I know, I couldn't believe it. I sort of - somebody handed me a book and I turn around in case there was a celebrity standing behind me and they were trying to give me the book to sign instead.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Did you guys get anyone asking you for autographs at Radio City Music Hall?

Ben: Yeah, I got quite a few people, actually.

Jamie: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: As we were walking away, there were people that were asking for pictures...

Jamie: It's weird. It was cool though.

Ben: It sort of makes you feel like a phony because you don't - like we don't really think that we're actually celebrities.

Laura: Well, especially since we were there in the same building as...

Ben: JK Rowling.

Laura: JK Rowling, Stephen King, [laughs] and John Irving. And I'm like, why are you asking me?

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Ben: People who didn't know anything about Harry Potter walked and were like, "Who are those bozos?"

Laura: [laughs] Exactly.

[Jamie laughs]

Ben: I'm like, "I'm Ben Schoen, people! You don't know who I am?" [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: There's actually a funny story about that from the New York Podcast. When we... When me, Emerson and Jamie when to the reliever?

Jamie: The uh, the uh, the uh, bathroom?

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs] Inside joke people. And we went to the bathroom and we come out - there were two girls and they asked to take a picture with us, so we say okay. And they get this random guy who's reading the books standing there to take a picture with us with them and he's like, "I don't know who these three guys are, but I want a picture with them too once you're done."

[Ben and Laura laugh]

Andrew: So, we take the picture with the girls, and then we take a picture with the random guy.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Yeah. So, we asked him what his Ebay username was, because it's clearly going on there.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]

Jamie: For four million dollars.

Ben: So, to sum up the past few weeks - even for the regular listeners who didn't come out to see us, I hope you enjoy the live stream we did from Lumos. And, recordings of the live Podcast will be put up. It's a lot more interactive if you're actually there and next time, try to come out but we're back to our regular - the regular swing of things here for at least a few months. [laughs] And yeah, I just - the last few weeks have been great fun. Can't even put it into words.

Andrew: Now Jamie, this was a special trip for you...

Jamie: Yeah.

Andrew: ...because of course, you came all the way from the UK and this was your first time in the US since, when was it again?

Jamie: 2001. But yeah, I went to Orlando, though, which was completely different. Completely different.

Every Time We Touch

Andrew: Yeah. And while you were here, you were introduced to - as we talked about on the live New York City podcast - a new song. [laughs]

Jamie: Hmmm. Well, yeah.

Andrew: You should sing this because this is a very important song to you. It goes a little something like this.

[Plays recording of "Every Time We Touch" by Cascada]

Jamie: Do I actually have to sing to it? I can't really. I'll wake everyone up and they'll kill me.

[Andrew stops recording]

Jamie: Just play the - just play the recording you got in...

Andrew: Okay, yeah. We'll do that in a minute.

Jamie: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben: [sings] I need you by my side. [laughs]

Jamie: But, but I mean, yeah. There's a story behind this as I said on the...

Andrew: I'll play it in the background while we... [starts playing "Every Time We Touch"]

Jamie: There's... There's a story behind this, as I said on the New York Podcast. We were sitting in Vegas by the pool at the Aladdin Hotel on the strip - we were all, you know, sunbathing, enjoying ourselves. And suddenly, this song came blasting through the speakers, which they positioned all around the pool and...

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: ...I hadn't heard this song before and I thought it was absolutely awesome, even though the lyrics are the cheesiest lyrics you would ever hear in your life, it's still such a good song.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: So I - I ask Andrew who sang it, he told me, and then immediately I rushed upstairs onto his laptop and I downloaded it through iTunes for about 99 cents or something like that, but it was worth every single penny.

Andrew: You actually paid for it?

Jamie: No, of course I didn't...

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: ...but I'm not going to say I downloaded it through Acquisition, am I?

Andrew: [laughs] Too late now.

Jamie: Yeah. Anyway, so,

Andrew: Oh geez.

Jamie: ...99 cents or whatever I've ever spent. So, after that I put it on my mp3 player, and I plug my headphones in, turned it up to the maximum volume, jumped onto our very nice bed - well, the bed isn't very nice now. But I...

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: ...I jumped onto it, turned it right up, and sang, well, screamed the lyrics as loud as I could and this was repeated several times throughout the entire holiday to this song.

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: And my throat hurt so much by the end of it, but it was - it was completely worth it. But, I've got to point out that it really was screaming it. It sounded absolutely terrible and Andrew, I think you have a snippet of it, don't you?

Andrew: Yeah. It's very, very, very small, but we have more clips that we'll also play at the end.

Jamie: Okay.

[Andrew plays clip of Jamie singing part of "Every Time We Touch"]

Andrew: That's all I had a chance to record, [laughs] but I have - we have two more songs that we'll stick in that he sang, but are really, really funny.

Jamie's Proud To Be An American

Ben: Well, there's actually another song that made its rounds while Jamie was jumping up and down on the couch.

Jamie: Oh really?.

Ben: Right, Jamie? [laughs]

Jamie: Yeah. This trip was a trip of songs. We, in Vegas, we were - we went for a stroll down the strip to the Bellagio hotel, where we stood by the fountains, which are featured in the movie Ocean's Eleven and what happens is every 15 minutes, the fountains come on and they perform their water show thing to a different song each time. And we happened to get there when the song was "I'm Proud to be an American" or "God Bless The USA" by Lee Greenwood. And it was brilliant. All of us were in floods of tears.

Ben: Yeah. [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: We were comforting each other. It was the biggest display of manly love I have ever seen. We were all hugging and so I heard this song and I felt strangely patriotic, even though I'm British. So, we - we went back to Andrew's house and I...

Ben: We actually went back to the hotel...

Jamie: ...downloaded the song, put it on the mp3 player.

Ben: ...and downloaded it.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Huh?

Andrew: [laughs] We went to the hotel.

Ben: Yeah, honestly. We - we didn't leave Vegas.

Jamie: What did I say?

Ben: We just went back to Andrew's house. Yeah we left - we left Vegas...

Jamie: [laughs] Oh, sorry.

Ben: ...and flew back to Andrew's house, downloaded the song...

[Everyone laugh]

Ben: ...flew back to Vegas. [laughs]

Jamie: Yes. We're that rich, we can just go back to Andrew's house to download a song. No, sorry, we went to the hotel, I downloaded it, and again, this was followed by jumping up and down on the bed and every time I did it, it brought a tear to my eye because I felt so...

Ben: American. [laughs]

Jamie: ...patriotic to - yeah, to America. So, now I think that for each time I sung that song, it sort of added five percent to - American to me.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Jamie: So, I'm sort of - I'm slowly getting there. Slowly getting there. In a couple of years, I could have lost my British-ness completely and turned American. So yeah, those were the two best songs of the trip.

Ben: Actually, I had two better songs but we'll get to those later.

Jamie: God bless the USA. [laughs]

Andrew: Well no, Ben - Ben, you got into Elton John [laughs] regrettably for the rest of us.

Ben: That's because I actually was walking down the strip and the water show was going on, on the other side of the street and I heard Elton John's "Your Song". I just heard [sings] "I hope you don't mind" and I just, I went to download it and stuff.

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Laura, do you have any fun stories from Lumos to tell us about? Maybe some, some musical adventures that you experienced yourself?

Laura: No, you know, all I got the whole time there was Ben berating me for my Green Day obsession, so I have nothing to say.

Jamie: Yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Jamie: Ooh.

Laura: I have nothing to say.

Andrew: Awww.

Jamie: [sings] There she was just walking down the strip, singing "God Bless The USA!"

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Jamie: That's the best song.

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