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MuggleCast 58 Transcript

Show Intro

Andrew: Three solid weeks without MuggleCast and one new Podcast Award later, this is MuggleCast, Episode 58, for October 8th, 2006. GoDaddy hosting plans are even more powerful than ever. Best of all, plans start at just $3.95 a month; and no matter what plan you choose, your site receives twenty-four seven maintenance and protection in the world-class data center. Use them for your upcoming website or podcast today by using a special offer from MuggleCast and GoDaddy. Enter code MUGGLE - that's M-U-G-G-L-E - when you check out, and save an additional ten percent on any order. Get your piece of the internet today at

Spy on Spartz

[Phone rings]

Emerson: Whatchu want?

Ben: Hey, what are you up to?

Emerson: I'm going to take a shower, that's pretty much it right now.

Ben: Hey, you know how people always like to be redundant? You know what I'm saying? Like PIN number and ATM machine? Do you know why they do that? Why would they do that?

Emerson: Because they're stupid?

Ben: Oh, come on! Is that all you could come up with?

Emerson: Okay, no, no, no. It sounds better as ATM machine. I say ATM machine too.

Ben: But come on.

Emerson: It's definitely acceptable to say ATM machine.

Ben: Oh really? So, how's Notre Dame this time of year? I'm curious.

Emerson: Notre Dame is glorious.

Ben: Glorious?

Emerson: The leaves are turning colors. The football team is winning, and...

Ben: Hey, did they - how'd they do against Michigan? I was curious.

Emerson: I beg your - what?

[Micah laughs]

Ben: Against Michigan.

[Micah laughs]

Emerson: How'd we do against Michigan? Against Michigan State, they won. They made a real comeback.

Ben: Right, right. What about Michigan the week before that?

Emerson: Well, what about Michigan? Everybody knows that game. And I blame the refs.

Ben: [laughs] You blame the refs? Well, we just thought we'd check in on you. We haven't checked in on you in a few weeks.

Emerson: The refs gave them at least six touchdowns.

Ben: Mhm. We're missing you, man. I mean, you haven't - we haven't seen you forever, we haven't touched base with you in so long. We thought we'd Spy on Spartz.

Emerson: That's cool. Ben, what did you think of the Michigan State game?

Ben: I enjoyed the Michigan State game. It was a great game.

Emerson: What'd you think about Michigan State?

Ben: What?

Emerson: What'd you think about Michigan State?

Ben: It sucked. [laughs]

Emerson: [laughs] Why did it suck?

Ben: Because it was huge. It was, like, bigger than - it was 85 Moundridges put together.

[Laura laughs]

Emerson: [laughs] That's probably accurate.

Ben: Yeah. [laughs] Okay, Emerson, we'll let you go. We just wanted to see what was up. We'll see you later.

Emerson: [laughs] Bye.

Ben: So, ladies and gentlemen...

Andrew: Oh boy.

Ben: We just Spied on Spartz.

Welcome Back

Andrew [with show music in background]: Welcome back to the show, everyone! Oh, it's been a while since I last heard your voices. Well...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] We don't really talk...

Ben: [laughs] Yeah.

Andrew: No, we did talk. [laughs]

Ben: Big flub there, Andrew.

Andrew: Anyway, you know what I'm saying. Welcome back to the show. I'm Andrew.

Ben: I'm Ben.

Laura: I'm Laura.

Micah: And I'm Micah.

Andrew: This is the show where we bring you the latest in Harry Potter news, theories, discussions, and so much more, including that fantastic Spy on Spartz. What a way to open the show! How long have we been away? We even skipped an episode [laughs] because we've been away for so long.

Ben: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: Episode 57 is unreleased and might be unreleased for some time. However, it does exist, and it will go out eventually. And by eventually, I could mean five years. It's going to be a heck of a show to edit together [laughs], but the point is - how's everyone doing?

Ben: I'm good.

Laura: I'm great! I miss everybody, though. It's so sad.

Ben: I miss everyone.

Andrew: I know!

Ben: I miss everyone too. Except Laura.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Ben: I'm just kidding. I miss Laura too. No, I'm really not that bad of a guy. These people know me in person.

Andrew: He really isn't.

Ben: Even though often times I'm perceived as this grumpy teenager, it's really not that way. I'm fun-loving. Sure, I make comments that cross the line occasionally...

Laura: [laughs] Occasionally?

[Micah laughs]

Ben: ...and I can cause controversy. And I like to cause controversy from time to time, but hey! I'm still fun. I'm joyous. Yeah.

Andrew: It's all... [laughs] You really are.

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: It's that Subway, I'm telling you what. You must have had a Subway before we started recording. [laughs]

Ben: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: In case anyone is wondering, Jamie Lawrence is back in Durham where he's settling down in college, and Eric Scull - well, we just didn't invite him this week. The point is...

Ben: Well, we tried to invite Jamie. Jamie was originally slated to be on this week, but his internet - his internet conveniently...

Andrew: Didn't work.

Ben: ...fell out, yeah.

Andrew: Oh, we should - oh, there's a good thing to insert at the end of the show! Me and Ben were trying to help him out with his thing, and we were recording his Skype because [laughs] he talks really slow. So, maybe we'll include that at the end of the show. Actually, no. Maybe we'll just tease you with it and never give it to you.

Ben: It was so funny because...

Andrew: I like that better.

Ben: ...he sounded like - I don't know, like he just woke up, or he took 100 pain-killers and he could barely talk. He was slow.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: It sounded like he was slurring his speech. It was like [speaks very slowly] Beeeeennnnnnnn...

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Ben: It was hilarious.

Andrew: We'll include a quick sample out of that at the end of the show this week. All right, stop recording. Well, we have a fantastic show for everyone this week - but before we do anything else, Micah Tannenbaum is standing by in the MuggleCast news center with the past week's top Harry Potter news stories.


Micah: The winners of this year's SyFy Genre Awards were announced last week; and Goblet of Fire won the Best Movie award, Emma Watson took Best Actress and Best Young Actor, while Dan Radcliffe won Best Actor and was the runner-up for Best Young Actor. Try saying that five times fast.

Speaking of the fourth film, HBO will begin airing Goblet of Fire on November 19th at 7 PM EST. It will then replay numerous times through the end of the month. A "making of" special will also air through the entire month, starting on November 7th at 6:45 AM EST.

In a new interview, Julie Walters, the Mrs. Weasley actress, discusses Order of the Phoenix director David Yates and explains how he captures the emotional depth of the book and the atmosphere he creates on-set.

Wrapping up movie news, Toby Jones, the man who voiced Dobby in the second Potter flick, recently told MTV that the ex-house-elf won't be making an appearance in Order of the Phoenix, but Kreacher will.

As part of Banned Books Week, held last week to raise awareness of books that have been challenged in communities across the US, the American Library Association asked 5,000 people what their favorite banned book was. Unsurprisingly, the Potter series came out on top. To Kill A Mockingbird and James and the Giant Peach came in second and third place, respectively. What's so bad about James and the Giant...?

While we're on the topic of banning - as we reported previously, the Georgian mother, Laura Mallory, who campaigned for the Harry Potter books to be removed from Gwinnett County school libraries [in a southern accent] because fundamentally they "promote and glorify witchcraft", is back at it again. After the Gwinnett Board of Education ruled the books would remain on shelves, Mallory, unsatisfied with the outcome, appealed the decision in a second hearing earlier this week. Mallory rehashed her previous points regarding why the books should go, saying "Witchcraft is being mainstreamed to our kids today but people are not aware of it. They think these books are fantasies but Wicca is a real recognized religion." But everyone, don't worry. It's okay. I hear Laura is actually headed down there right now to set her straight.

On a more positive note, we're proud to announce that MuggleCast won the top prize at the 2006 Podcast Awards in Ontario, California. The People's Choice category was awarded to us after receiving over 100,000 votes from listeners and fans. Thanks to everyone who provided their support through the entire voting process, including our friends at PotterCast who we teamed up with! They received their award for Best Entertainment podcast.

Also, if you weren't able to join us out in the Borders in Westwood for our live show in Los Angeles, California, the show is now available for download, and a transcript will be posted shortly.

Finally, JK Rowling has been updating her site quite a bit lately. I wonder why that is... Hmmm...

That's all the new for this October 7th, 2006 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Andrew: Okay, thank you, Micah...

Ben: [Impersonating Micah] Thanks, Andrew.

Micah: Oh, oh. Sorry, sorry.

Andrew: [laughs] Hey, Micah...

Micah: Oh, you're welcome.

Andrew: I have a funny story.

Micah: Okay?

Andrew: [laughs] Jamie calls you Mic-er. What do you think of that? It's pretty funny, isn't it? [laughs]

Micah: Yeah well, Jamie's British. So, we all have our faults.

Ben: Oh!

Andrew: Hey, we have a MySpace - [laughs] that was - that's pretty bad.

Ben: Hey people.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: I'm just kidding. Don't send me massive amounts of e-mail.

[Andrew laughs]

Andrew: Hey everyone...

Micah: I going to get a thous...

Andrew: Okay, you're done. You're done, Micah. Thank you.

Micah: Sorry.

Andrew: Ummm...[laughs]

[Micah laughs]

MuggleCast MySpace and Facebook

Andrew: Don't forget, everyone, we have a MuggleCast MySpace now. Whether you want to admit it or not, you have a MySpace and you can visit ours at Become our friend and then help spread the word about MuggleCast because we're trying to get the word out more besides - we just promote it on MuggleNet - it's started to spread further.

Ben: Mhm. We're going to take over the world.

Andrew: Because, about one fifth of the world visits MuggleNet. But, what about the other four-fifths? Where do they go? MySpace. So, that's why we are on MySpace. And Facebook! We also have a Facebook so just do a search for MuggleCast and we should show up there - as a group.

Ben: And if you can't find the MuggleCast Facebook, you can add me as your friend and then I can get it through me, so...

Andrew: [laughs] Hmm. That sounds suspicious.

Ben: [Laughs] Yeah. I need more Facebook friends.

Andrew: It almost doesn't sound like you're having a competition with Jamie to see who can get more Facebook friends.

Ben: No, never. Never, never.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Ben Schoen. Remember the name.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: S-C-H-O-E-N

Andrew: [laughs] Oh, it's wonderful to be back recording again.

California Podcast

Ben: So, hey, Andrew.

Andrew: Yes, Ben?

Ben: What did you think of California - Podcast?

Andrew: It was super! Thanks for asking, Ben!

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: I thought it was fun too. I mean, it was a great time.

Andrew: Yeah it was. There was about 300 people that showed up.

Laura: It was very intimate.

Andrew: And...

Laura: That's what I liked about it.

Andrew: Was it? Yeah, it was a different setting wasn't it?

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: We were on the second floor - it was this room - it was a circular room. And there were only about a little under a hundred seats and there was a lot of people standing around the outside, but it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fan interaction too. So, it was good.

Ben: Yeah, I liked it a lot too.

Subway Confrontation

Ben: And, if you guys don't remember, this was the day that I had the 36 inches of Subway along with the pizza. And, well, I'd just like to clear something up because earlier this week I got an e-mail from

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Way to use your real email address...

Ben: Yeah, yeah. case we wanted to contact you back with a legit answer.

Ben: And here's what they said: "I always liked you guys a lot, but you have gotten so pathetic. Well, one of you anyway..."

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: "That I think I may just listen to Leaky from now on." Who'd want to do that?

Andrew: Oooh!

Ben: "Ben keeps begging people to send him Subway cards. That itself is disgusting because you've gone to like New York and LA in the last six months while people listening sit at home and even if we have the money, we have to work to get it and you ask us to send you stuff which you don't even sound like you appreciate unless it is money or gift cards, something like that. Only Laura ever sounds like she cares that people take the time to make her something that didn't cost money."

Laura: Awww.

Ben: Good job, Laura. "Talking about your mailbox and asking for people to give you things is totally conceited anyway. But then, after talking about the battle against childhood obesity - the famous one - so people will send him free stuff, Ben goes and is bragging about how he ate three foot long subs at once. What a jerk. There are kids in the world who don't have any food. There are kids in America who don't [pause] and there are kids who seriously battle weight problems. That is so insulting to both groups. Better to ask people to send money to buy food for people in Darfur or someplace where children are starving than to feed Ben's face. I listen to hear about Harry Potter, not to hear people who just went to Disneyworld and WB Studios and whatever - beg me to send them cards to get free food so they can act like a hog. It is really sad that Ben behaves like this and the rest of you, like Jamie, encourage it and think it is funny. You may all be older than me, but you sure don't act like it. You should all apologize, especially Ben. And, you should give the cards to a homeless shelter or something to feed people who really are hungry. You may have just won a People's Choice Award and I'm sorry now that I voted for you, but you are not my choice any longer."

Andrew: Oooh. Awww. Awww. That hurts. That hurts, disappointed@disgusted, whatever.

Ben: Yeah, I just have a few things to say about this. First of all, I don't remember the last time - an episode where I asked for Subway gift cards. They kind of just kept coming and I thank people for them, whatever. I mean, you don't have to send them, it's not like you're obligated to. If you feel that Darfur or one of those other situations is something better to send your money to, go ahead and do that. I mean, I'm not saying you're obligated to send your money to me. [laughs] I mean...


Ben: Yeah, or...

Laura: Go there.

Ben: or whatever it is. You don't have to send anything to me. I mean, actually from now on, send your money to Darfur. I don't need it. I can buy my own Subway.

Andrew: Oh, wonderful, wonderful.

Ben: Second of all, I don't feel it's conceited for us to ask things because people like to send us stuff. I mean, it's not like we're constantly asking for things and say "hey, send whatever to our P.O. Box" - it's not arrogant. Thirdly, the battle against childhood obesity - she brought up how it's pathetic that I went and ate 36 inches of Subway - actually, when I was eating the 36 inches of Subway, I thought of this. First of all, I want everyone to know that none of the Subway gift cards went towards purchasing that 36 inches. All that money came out of my own pocket - I knew that would be unethical of sorts. Secondly, I've already lost weight and I'm still health conscious. It's not like I go out eating 36 inches of Subway every day because then I would be the posterhood child for childhood obesity - the posterhood? [laughs] The poster child for childhood obesity.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Another thing is they mention how I should give these Subway gift cards to a homeless shelter. Well, coincidentally enough, one night we were in Los Angeles, we stayed downtown and there was a Subway right around the corner. Anyways, we went down around the corner to the Subway, Andrew and I did, and on the way back we got approached by a homeless person who said, "Guys, I am very hungry right now. I have diabetes. I really need to eat something, itís absolutely necessary, or else Iím going to have to go to the hospital, I donít have the money for this." And you know I didnít have any cash on me so what did I do? Andrew, tell them what I did.

Andrew: You gave that homeless man a Subway gift card.

Ben: Worth ten dollars.

Andrew: Ten dollars.

Ben: I gave this homeless man this ten dollar Subway gift card. So, I donít think itís appropriate to accuse me of being undeserving and arrogant and all that when my intentions are good.

Andrew: Yep.

Ben: So, from now on, from now on donít send me Subway gift cards. Put your money towards Sudan or whatever. I mean, you never had to do it in the first place; itís always just been an option. So, I ask you from now on donít send me Subway gift cards, send the money to a better cause, save darfur dot org.

Andrew: Yeah, guys weíre just having fun. Weíre not...

Laura: Very charitable.

iPod Issues

Andrew: Weíre not demanding anything. Weíre just messing around trying to have some fun. So, anyway, we wanted to address some podcast/iPod troubles that have been coming in. Weíve been getting a lot of complaints lately that MuggleCast screws up your iPods, and this isnít true itís actually a problem that occurred with the latest iPod software update. Whatís been happening is, for some reason, when you put Ė this doesnít happen with everyoneís iPods Ė but when you put podcast on your iPod, for some reason they freeze and restart or something like that. Luckily, I didnít have the problem, but a couple people did so weíve been getting a lot of emails. I just wanted to make it clear itís not MuggleCast screwing up your iPod, itís Apple. Blame them.

The People's Choice

Okay, also and of course the big story of the week. Well, weíve been off a couple of weeks. But itís a big story and we want to talk about it.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: Yeah, sorry about that.

Andrew: We apologize, its rough coming back from a trip and then trying to put a show together because - especially during the school year because we all, you know, we all had a lot of school work to make up and business to attend to outside of the podcast. So, anyway, MuggleCast did win the Peopleís Choice Award at the 2006 Podcast Awards, back on September 29th.

Ben: Seems like ages ago.

Andrew: We were all there. Yeah, it was only like a week - actually it was a week ago today.

Ben: Today, right now as we record this show.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: We record on Friday night. This is what we do on Friday night guys.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: We record MuggleCast. [laughs]

Ben: We donít have friends. We don't friends? Friends, what are those?

Andrew: Yeah. What are friends? Frynds? What?

[Laura, Ben and Andrew laugh]

Andrew: So, yeah we... Yeah, so we won the Podcast Award. It was a great event, we had a lot of fun. What did you guys think of it?

Ben: I thought it was nice. I mean it was good to go around and meet other people who are involved in podcasting and all that so, yeah Iím grateful we had the opportunity to do that. If course next year we wonít be eligible. So, thanks to all the people who voted for us, Andrew had a chance to speak with the person who conducted the Ė pretty much the whole organizer of the event afterwards, and he pretty much told us that we crushed everybody. So, thatís thanks to you guys.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. He was blown away, yeah.

Ben: He was so surprised that Harry Potter could, you know, attract so many people and so many people would vote for us. So yeah, good job everybody.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: It was really great because there were tons of other very, very popular shows there and I had people coming up to me saying, "Youíre on MuggleCast." And they knew who we were, which was just Ė it was so flattering because it was like, "Wow, you know, youíre a pretty big show and here you are shaking my hand." So, it was just great to go and get to see all these different people.

Andrew: It was great meeting all the new podcast Ė well not new, it was great meeting all the podcasters. I met Don and Drew from the Don and Drew Show and my buds Patrick and Adam from the Nobody Likes Onions.

[Micah laughs]

Ben: That is a good show.

Andrew: The Leo Laporte.

Ben: Yeah we met Leo. Andrew and I met Leo. We shook...

Andrew: Jamie was there, too.

Ben: Yeah. Jamie was there, too. We shook his hand. We had a good time with Leo.

Micah: Wasn't there also...

Ben: He told us he was very impressed with what we are doing.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: The Podcaster of the Year, people. He loves us.

Micah: Wasnít there also a priest from the Vatican?

Laura: Yeah, that was pretty cool. Ben and

Andrew: The Catholic Insider.

Ben: Itís actually the number two search result if you search for Harry Potter podcast.

Laura: Really?

Andrew: Yeah, because he does some Harry Potter stuff from time to time. Very good. So, that was the Podcast Awards. Thanks all the...

Micah: They need to work on seating for next year.

Andrew: Seating didnít go very well but... We walked in and there were like five seats left.

Ben: So...

Andrew: Letís put it this way, it was so popular...

Ben: So, what we did was, I grabbed a chair, Andrew sat on my lap.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: Jamie sat on his, Kevin sat on his and then Laura was on the very top.

[Andrew laughs]

Order of the Phoenix California Video Game Podcast

Andrew: Before we get to our main discussion, we want to let everyone know that we will, in I guess like three or four weeks, have a special episode of MuggleCast that focuses around the Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix video game, where we will be speaking with producers of the fifth video game from Electronic Arts. Itís going to be a nerdfest galore, yay! Yay, Kevin!

Ben: Kevin, Kevin would definitely be excited about that.

Andrew: So, we need your help, this is why we are bringing it up on the show. We want you guys to send in your questions that you have about the Order of the Phoenix video game to 1-218-20-MAGIC. Kevin is going to have a super time going through all the voice mails and picking out some questions for them. Weíre going to choose like 15 to 20 questions, to pose to them, and then youíll hear their answers on the show. And Ė what was I going to say? Oh, weíll put some links to some information about the video game on and also MuggleNet will be promoting it there too, so that you guys can read up more about the game and then get some questions for them. We got a little preview of this game when me, Melissa and John hit up the Order of the Phoenix set. Itís looking like a great game, itís very interactive, you can go around the entire school, do what you want, mess around. So, I am sure everyone will have a lot of questions for them. And the EA guys are really cool. So, for more information visit

Harry Potter Jeopardy!

Ben: Also, wasnít Harry Potter on Jeopardy! the other day?

Laura: Oh yeah!

Andrew: Yes it was, Ben.

Laura: It was!

Ben: Actually, someone sent me in the questions. They were completely lame, oh my gosh! Let me read a few of them to you. Because you guys all know how Jeopardy works, they give you the answer and you have to say the question, and it says, "In this sport Harry plays the position of Seeker." Okay, seriously you have to be joking.

Laura: Are you kidding?

Andrew: Oh.

Ben: Yeah, it says, "A half-giant, heís the game-keeper of Hogwarts."

Andrew: Who is Umbridge?

Ben: Hagrid [uses silly voice]. "Ron and Harry use this unusual transport to get to Hogwarts for their second year." Then...

[Laura laughs]

Ben: ..."Harry's nemesis, this member of Slytherin, has a dad named Lucius who is a supporter of Voldemort." Then, "Any cat could tell you that she teaches Transfiguration magic at Hogwarts."

Andrew: [in goofy voice] Whoa, ho, ho.

Ben: Yep. These are the exact questions.

Laura: Those were...

Ben: They appeared on the cards, but yeah that's...

Laura: Some really difficult questions.

Andrew: Little too easy.

Ben: Yeah I know, but I guess if it was - not everyone's read Harry Potter.

Andrew: It was like Teen Week, so I think that's why they asked.


Laura: Yeah. Jo's WOMBATS were nothing next to those questions, huh?

Andrew and Ben: [together] Speaking of WOMBATS.

Ben: Yeah, good transition there.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: So, how did everyone do on their WOMBATS?

Ben: Hey Andrew, Andrew. How'd you do on your WOMBATS? Just curious.

Andrew: Oh, I did great. I got a nothing, because I didn't take it.

Ben: Awww.

Laura: Mhm.

Micah: Yeah, neither did I.

Ben: Well, you know, we're sorry excuses for Harry Potter fans. I can feel the hate mail coming already, and I can hear all of you booing us right now because we didn't take the WOMBATS.

Andrew: Well, we sort of have valid excuses.

Laura: You know what? I can proudly say that despite being in Los Angeles - see that's these guys' excuse. They're saying, "Well, we were in LA. We were too busy to take it."

Andrew: We were distracted.

Laura: I took my WOMBATS and I got an Exceeds Expectations. Thank you very much.

Andrew: Well, very good. Very good. What was the second round like? Was it any harder than the first round?

Laura: You know what? I honestly thought that the first one was harder.

Andrew: Oh.

Laura: I got an Acceptable the first time, and I thought the questions were a lot more difficult. But at the same time, you really had to be paying attention to the books to do well on this, I think.

Andrew: Did this second round focus around certain style of questions? Or what?

Laura: Ummm.

Andrew: What were some of the questions?

Laura: God, let me remember. It had some stuff about magical creatures, like the first one. There was actually a question that it was all about Muggles; like this one section was about them. And one of the questions, I specifically remember, said, "Muggles are" and it had all of these little checkboxes with, like, opinions below it. And one of them said...

Andrew: Like ignorant, in danger...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: ...inferior to wizards, insensitive to their surroundings, interesting, or irritating facts of like for example?

Laura: Yeah.

[Ben and Laura laugh]

Laura: I liked irritating facts of life, but I didn't choose that one.

Andrew: Wait, are there correct answers for these?

Ben: I missed out on taking the WOMBATS the first time, so I'm still disappointed in myself.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Awww, geez.

Ben: Because you never know when their going to close the door and I was like, "Oh, I'm going to take the WOMBATS." Then I log on to MuggleNet and it says, "The door is now closed." Like, noooo!

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Micah Says, The Door Will Open...On Halloween!

Laura: Micah, do you think you could get Jo to open the door back up?

Ben: Come on Micah.

Micah: Yeah, yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Let's hear it.

Micah: I'm telling you.

Andrew: Do it.

Micah: October 31st she is going to reveal the title of Book Seven. I'm not joking about that.

Andrew: All right.

Ben: Are you pretty sure about that Micah?

Andrew: Oh Micah, I'm getting excited now.

Ben: Micah, do you have some kind of inside source?

Micah: You know, I think it would be really creepy if the night of the show I had said, "Oh she's going to open the door later tonight."

[Laura laughs]

Micah: And then we all went back and...

Wake Up Call

Micah: Well, you guys have an interesting story. Didn't you guys get woken up?

Laura: Oh yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Yeah.

Micah: At five or six in the morning.

Andrew: That's a lame story.

Ben: That's a great story. Okay.

Andrew: Go ahead, tell the story.

Ben: Okay. I'll tell it. I'll tell it. It was awesome.

Andrew: [laughs] I can't stand it.

Ben: Okay.

Andrew: See, now here's the thing, let me just say something first. If you listened to PotterCast earlier this week, they told like a completely different version of this story. [laughs]

Ben: Oh, did they really?

Andrew: [laughs] That doesn't make sense at all, but anyway go ahead.

Ben: Okay, here's what really happened. It was about...

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: It was probably like 9 AM. Wouldn't you say?

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: It was about 9 AM and I get a knock at the door.

Andrew: We're in LA.

Ben: We're in Los Angeles; Andrew and I in one bed and Jamie and someone else was in another. Anyways I get a knock at the door, and I go to the door and I'm like, "Who could this be? Who's knocking at the door?" I open it up and Sue, Sue Upton from TLC, standing at the door saying, "Ben! Ben! Oh my God! Ben! The door's open! The door's open!"

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: And I'm like, "What? What door's open? I know the door's open." And then she said, "No, The door is open." And apparently she had some text message notification service so when she updated her site, the door...

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: It sent her a text message or something, or someone called her. Something like that. Anyways, I go back to...I wasn't about to post news, because I was so tired. So I go back to the bed and I start prodding Andrew. I'm like, "Andrew, get up. Andrew come on. The doors open, Andrew." And he rolls over to me, he's like, "No, it's not. She wasn't telling the truth." I was like, "Oh yes, Andrew. It was a big conspiracy. Melissa and Sue are sitting over there...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No! I didn't say that.

Ben: ...plotting against us."

Andrew: [laughs] Well, I did say that.

Ben: It was like, "Yeah. They're sitting over there plotting against us. Like, oh, we can go wake him up and get him out of bed and get him all riled up if we tell him the doors open."

Andrew: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I was still sleeping. I didn't know Sue came to the door, so...

Ben: Yeah. It's classic me just to mess with him like I'd say something like...

Andrew: It is.

Ben: "Oh yeah. Sue came to the door, and she wants you to get up and post about it." But, in reality...

Andrew: So, Ben kept bugging me.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: It got to the point where I was ready to throw him through the window. [laughs]

Ben: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: I was so annoyed. [laughs]

Ben: I was like, "Come on just post it. Post it now." Because, you know, of course TLC waited about two-and-a-half hours until after they'd posted it to come get us up you know.

[Andrew laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] And so then I went on MuggleNet to see if Ciaran posted it, and he didn't. So I went and I checked out, like, the details on how to open it up and it was so much. I was just like, "Oh, forget this. I'm going back to bed." [laughs]

Ben: So, we messaged Ciaran. He's like, "Ciaran, post it." And he gladly obliged, but yeah. It was a mess.

Andrew: It was funny.

Ben: It was pretty funny. [laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] So, there's our story. I was so annoyed with you. No one wake me in the morning.

Micah: But you guys are happy with these results, right? I mean, stuff is happening at least.

Andrew: What results? Your results?

Micah: She's updating the site.

Andrew: Micah Tan the Anchorman gets results. Oh yeah. It's all because of you Micah.

Ben: She's scared of you, dude.

Micah: It's funny. Somebody in Los Angeles, when were at the podcast, gave me a shirt that says, "Jo updated her site because I told her to."

Ben: That's awesome.

Andrew: Nice.

[Laura laughs]

Micah: So, thank you to whoever gave that to me.

Andrew: So Micah, that is your prediction? October 31st we're going to see something?

Micah: October 31st. I'm going to stick with the title. I know she's going to do an update, but I'm going to go big with it. I'm going to say she's going to reveal the title.

Ben: No, Micah, Micah. You don't say....

Laura: And what are you putting on the line here? What if you're wrong?

Andrew: Yeah. You have to do something if you're wrong.

Micah: Well, I'm going to look pretty stupid. [laughs]

Ben: Hold on, Micah, you have to say it with confidence. You have to say, "The release date..." Yeah. "The title will be released October 31st."

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: No question about it, okay?

Micah: Okay. Okay.

Andrew: Good, do it.

Micah: The title of Book Seven will be...

Andrew: No, more, more... No, no, more, more force.

Ben: Come on, Micah.

Andrew: Kind of angry.

Ben: You have to...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: ...lay down the - throw down the law here.

Micah: Well, it doesn't need to be angry though, it just has to be definitive.

Andrew: Yeah, well I know. It just has to be forceful. It has be like you're in control.

[Laura laughs]

Micah: The title of Book Seven will be released on October 31st.

Ben: Are you sure, Micah?

Micah: Yeah! 100 percent.

Ben: 100 percent.

Andrew: [laughs] Whoa! 100 percent.

Ben: Oh guys, you heard it here first.

Andrew: I don't know who you're talking to. Yeah.

Ben: Guys, imagine if the title of it really is released, how much praise we're going to get, how much praise Micah is going to get?

Andrew: Yeah. Micah Tan gets results.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Well, because she's still deciding between two titles, so it's kind of funny. She came up with the second title in New York City while she was taking a shower. I'll tell you what, that New York City water really gets ya movin'. [laughs]

Micah: Watch, she'll do it on November 1st just to spite me.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah. That would really stink, wouldn't it?

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