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New Show Intro

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Andrew [Show Intro with new music in background]: Because we all got some candy in our bellies, this is MuggleCast Episode 61 for October 31st, 2006 - Halloween edition.

[New music continues]

Andrew: [in a spooky voice] Oooooooh! Welcome to MuggleCast Halloweeeen edition! Ooooooooh! Hey, guys, what's with this new music?

Ben: It's sweet.

Jamie: Ooooooh! I like it. I like it very much.

Laura: I like it a lot. I think it's great stuff.

Andrew: I like it, too.

Jamie: Laura, I like it more than you.

Andrew: I have to try the bass line.

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: Yeah. Hey, Andrew.

Andrew: Yeah?

Jamie: Did you use your half an amp - half a watt amplifier...

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: record that? [laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] Yes, yes. I used my small little amp to produce this bass.

Jamie: For all people listening: Andrew, in his room, has an amp that it literally the size of a sort of cell phone. It's absolutely tiny.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Well, it's a bit bigger.

Andrew: A cell phone? All right, I think you're exaggerating. [laughs]

Jamie: I'm exaggerating very, very slightly. Very slightly.

Ben: What did I say about it? I said something.

Andrew: I don't know.

Jamie: You said that it was a one-watt amp, which is a bit of a high estimate I think, Ben, really.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] Guys, come on. It's like ten. Give me a break. I'm going to buy a new one.

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: Sorry, it came with the guitar. It's a practice amp.

Laura: That's pretty hardcore stuff, Andrew.

Andrew: Anyway, we have a special Halloween show for everyone today, including some hot gossip on Laura Mallory that's going to get everyone!

Jamie: Yeah. This is steaming hot gossip.

Andrew: Yeah. Ooo! Ooo! Everyone's going to be like, "Tehe! Gossip! I love gossip!" We also hope you're enjoying our new Intro music. [pause while music plays in background] I'll take that as a, "no."

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

[Jamie hums the theme music]

[Music continues playing]

Andrew: I'm Andrew Sims.

Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.

Jamie: I'm Jamie Lawrence.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: And now over to Micah Tannenbaum for the past week's top Harry Potter news stories.


[Audio excerpt from Sorcerer's Stone]: Troll in the dungeon!

Micah: Oh, really? Good thing I'm not working down there today. But the rest of the transcribers are. Well, good luck!

Goblet of Fire has received two nominations: Best Feature Film and Bafta Kids' Vote, in this year's children's Bafta Awards. The awards ceremony will take place on November 26th in London.

HBO has opened a contest where you could win tickets to the Order of the Phoenix US premiere next July, including 500 dollars in spending money and transport plus accommodation. This contest is only open to US residents. To enter, head over to

And while you're over there be sure to check out for all your HP merchandise needs. With thousands of products to choose from, if you can't find a Harry Potter product there, either it doesn't exist, it's a dumb product idea, or we're just not allowed to sell it. I'm glad I get paid by the advertisement.

Speaking of, we're proud to announce that the first-ever book written by MuggleNet staff is now available for pre-order for only $11.85 through partner Alivan's. The book is titled, What will happen in Harry Potter 7? Who lives? Who dies? Who falls in love? And how will the adventure finally end?

Our fully-customizable Order of the Phoenix countdown is now available. You can change the countdown to your country's release date. More countries and dates will be added as they become available.

Speaking of the fifth movie, Empire magazine's latest edition included a three-page spread, where director David Yates spoke about the length of the film. He said: "The book's huge, but it actually distills quite easily. That said, I've shot a movie that's probably over three hours, so I'll have to lose 45 minutes in the edit." Blasphemy! Yates also discusses Imelda Staunton and Evanna Lynch.

Finally, "We Love The Royle Family Sun," a special program about the The Royle Family sitcom, aired this past week on BBC 1, and Jo Rowling made a guest appearance. We have a video available for you online.

That's all the news for this October 31, 2006, Halloween edition of MuggleCast - be sure to check out the Halloween layout on - back to the show!

Andrew: All right, thank you, Micah.

Micah: You're welcome.

News Discussion: Movie Length

Andrew: We're going to try something new this week. We are going to talk about the news a little bit because it's a good way to keep the show a little fresh week to week, and this way we can have a chance to gossip about [switches to girly voice] the latest Harry Potter stories, guys!

Jamie: Yeah! Yeah!

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: So, one of the big stories this week was a new interview with David Yates, where he said that there was going to be a good 45 minutes of film that they shot that is going to have to be cut!

Laura: What?!

Jamie: He was talking specifically about his length, which I always like it when men talk about length, because, really, you know, you can't really talk about a film, review a film if it's too long or too short. I think you better keep them into certain categories. There's more that can be packed into a four or five hour film, so it's impossible to compare it with a one hour film, because it's completely different. The plot's different. You can have a beginning, a middle, and an end and then more in a four hour film, whereas you can't really in a one hour film.

Andrew: Right, right. That could be said about a lot of things.

Jamie: Yeah, definitely.

Andrew: But, I mean, with this - with the movie - why is WB so concerned about keeping it at about a two-and-a-half hour range? Because that really seems...

Ben: It encourages more people to go out and watch it.

Jamie: Yeah, and it's continuity, as well.

Ben: Parents don't want to take their kids to a film that's going to be over three hours long.

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Laura: Yeah. Kids get squirmy.

Ben: Because it's going to be like, "Oh, geez. There's no way he's going to sit through this," and, "Oh, geez. I don't want to put up with him this long." So... [laughs]

Andrew: I guess, but then look at Titanic. And how long was Titanic?

Laura: Yeah, but Titanic wasn't geared - they weren't trying to gear that towards children.

Andrew: No, but adults sat through the whole thing.

Laura: Adults, not kids. [laughs]

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: Well, don't you think kids would sit through the Harry Potter film? I thought the concern was the parents would not want to sit through it.

Laura: No, I think that...

Andrew: Granted, they probably wouldn't.

Laura: Well, I mean think about it. A five-year-old? I mean...

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: Yeah, that's... That's...

Laura: Sitting through a three-and-a-half, four hour movie.

Jamie: And also it's like when it goes into a four or five hour movie, it turns into a new thing.

Laura: Mhm.

Jamie: Like the third Lord of the Rings is known for being a long film. Or, there's one film, I can't remember what it is, it's like, six hours, and then people - it becomes known for being so long instead of as a film.

Ben: Gone With the Wind.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laura: Mhm.

Jamie: For an example, Gone With the Wind is like, three hours, 50 minutes or something. And then - that isn't a film; it's a marathon film.

Laura: Not to mention, the longer the movie is, the more people are going to expect for it to contain, you know, from the books.

Jamie: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

Laura: Little facts that would've normally be left out. And we know that directors, especially - I can't believe I forgot his name - the Goblet of Fire director. [laughs]

Andrew: David Yates?

Ben: Oh, Mike Newell.

Andrew: Mike Newell.

Laura: Mike Newell.

Jamie: Oh, Laura, you call yourself a fan?

Laura: It totally slipped my mind, but for instance, you know, he said that the big theme in this one was the boarding school kind of element to it.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Laura: So, he took those pieces, and Alfonso Cuaron said that the big theme in Prisoner of Azkaban was Harry...

Jamie: Was shrunken heads.

Micah: Was the Whomping Willow?

Jamie: Yeah.

Laura: [laughs] No! Harry transforming from a child into a teenager. So, they're just picking out the main story element that they want the movie to focus around.

Jamie: Do you know, I think it's funny when people like, speak like, "And I do think this movie is incredibly important for the character development and how the plot progresses." When I watch a film, I just watch it. I don't think about these things.

Andrew: Right, right. You want entertainment. [laughs]

Jamie: I've never... Exactly. I've never ever thought about the development of the character as a whole, and their personal struggle against the forces of evil. I just watch it.

Andrew: Yeah. [laughs]

Laura: Yeah, But the thing is...

Jamie: Maybe I'm just dumb, yeah?

Laura: ...if the character - Jamie, though, if development is good, that makes the movie entertaining.

Jamie: So, back to what David Yates was saying about that he's recorded a three hour film, so he's going to have to cut 45 minutes of it, which, for the non-mathematically inclined among you, means that it should be two hour, fifteen minute film.

Ben: Now that's stupid. Throw in that extra fifteen.

Andrew: Yeah, I think they would go for two-and-a-half. I mean and granted, maybe WB will finally pull the stick out of their butt and say, "Hey, let's just go for three hours."

Jamie: Yeah. Three hours would be okay.

Laura: I think they're going to have to eventually. I mean...

Ben: No, why would they? Why would they?

Andrew: Especially with...

Ben: Order of the Phoenix is the longest book...

Andrew: With the final book?

Jamie: Yeah, but Book Seven, Ben, is going to be huge, and there's going to be, like, an epilogue at the start...

Laura: Well, I mean, Ben's right...

Andrew: It's not going to be the biggest book; she already said that herself.

Laura: Just because it's not the biggest book doesn't mean the content wouldn't take up a lot of screen time.

Andrew: You have to send it off properly.

Jamie: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: You have to send it off properly. Just imagine the ending.

Ben: Well, no. They're going to make as many cuts as possible to make it two-and-a-half hours. That's what I think.

Jamie: Yeah, but if you're going to sit through a two-and-a-half hour film, wouldn't you sit through a three hour film? It isn't like you're going to...

Ben: Not necessarily. There's a rating. With anything there's a standard. For example, with the radio the amount of time is like, three minutes and thirty seconds. That's like the average length for a radio song. Anything past that is considered too long.

Jamie: Yeah.

Ben: So, even if it's just four minutes. So, if you have a movie that's three hours, some people aren't going to like sitting through that last 30 minutes.

Jamie: Well, I guess. Yeah.

Micah: But I think we all agreed, though, with, Goblet of Fire, it was very fast paced through that entire time.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: It wasn't like you felt like you were really sitting there.

Andrew: It was. Especially the opening. They rushed through all that. I mean the Quidditch World Cup mainly. That was the biggest thing, but there were a lot of cuts in that. They were kind of obvious, too.

Laura: Yeah.

Micah: Yeah, I agree with Jamie. I think, what's the real difference? If you're there for two-and-a-half hours, who cares if you're there for 25 more minutes?

Laura: Well, that's also coming from our point of view. We're Harry Potter dorks. It's sad to say, but I don't think that they're only thinking about appealing to the book fans; they're thinking about general audiences, too.

Andrew: They can't think about the book fans because of...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: If you think about just the fans in general, what do they want? A longer movie.

Laura: Yeah, exactly.

Andrew: They'll sit through, well...

Ben: Well, what's it about? What's it about, okay? Is it about pleasing the fans, or is it about boosting the bottom line?

Laura: Or making money?

Andrew: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's true.

Jamie: It's about both. It's a combination of both.

Andrew: It is, but you know WB does not give priority to the fans.

Laura: No, no, of course not. [laughs]

Andrew: Like, you look at Lord of the Rings. There's extended versions of the movie on the special two disk DVD and you get the whole thing. They really - Peter - or what was the director's name?

Laura: Peter Jackson.

Ben: Peter Jackson.

Andrew: Peter Jackson. He really did care about the fans.

Jamie: Oh yeah.

Andrew: And that's why a lot of people did love his work on the films, but then again, there's a different director for each of these films, and it's up, really, to WB how much goes in.

News Discussion: Extra Order Scenes on DVD?

Andrew: So, with that said, can we expect to see this all on the DVD? Because that would really be the way to pay the fans back.

Ben: I doubt it.

Laura: No, I don't think so.

Andrew: Yeah. 45 minutes of content. That's a lot for extra deleted scenes.

Ben: Well, how much - do we know how much extra footage there was for...

Andrew: Goblet of Fire?

Ben: Yeah, Goblet of Fire or Prisoner of Azkaban?

Andrew: What, 20 minutes worth, maybe?

Laura: I think the DVD that had the most extra footage was the Chamber of Secrets one; there were a lot of extra scenes included on the Chamber of Secrets DVD, but it doesn't amount to 45 minutes, and none of the other DVDs did.

Jamie: None of them nearly.

Andrew: Yeah. I was pretty happy with the Goblet of Fire DVD. That had a lot of extra bonus features. A lot of behind the scenes stuff.

Ben: But seriously, though. I think I heard somewhere that any extra footage they film that was originally going to go in the movie - they cut out - actually does make it to the DVD.

Prisoner of Azkaban on ABC

Andrew: Hmmm. Okay. In other news, Prisoner of... - I wanted to bring up this story because I really want to know the answer to my question. Prisoner of Azkaban aired on ABC the other day, and you know how some people... Does anyone care? Does anyone watch it? Like, the fans? Because it seems like...

Laura: Well, why? You've got the DVD. [laughs]

Jamie: People have it on DVD.

Micah: I actually watched it last night.

Andrew: Really?

Micah: I did.

Andrew: Well, you're a dork.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: People, some people, I just don't see, like...

Ben: What about people who can't afford the DVD?

[Ben and Micah laugh]

Andrew: What? It's true.

Micah: Well, I tend to watch it more when it's on HBO just because no commercials and things like that, but a lot of times ABC puts on deleted scenes, and I don't have any of the DVDs with deleted scenes. So...

Andrew: Oh, okay.

Micah: I'll watch for that more than anything else.

Andrew: It doesn't seem like it's worth posting on MuggleNet because all of the people on the site are hardcore fans, and chances are they watched it a few days prior to when it's airing anyway.

Jamie: Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew: And, you know, and you look in the comments in the news post and people are like, "Ah, who cares?"

Jamie: Well, exactly. That's the thing.

Andrew: I don't know. We should look up the ratings and see what...

Micah: Yeah, that's a good idea. Last night was a big deal because it was sponsored by Eragon.

Andrew: Oh, was there Eragon stuff? I'm sure is going all out.

Laura: I have a question, and I don't want to make any of our friends over at Shurtugal angry, but who thinks that the Eragon poster is kind of a big rip-off of the Goblet of Fire one? [laughs]

Andrew: What is it?

Laura: Well, haven't you seen it?

Andrew: I might have. I forget. Is it just a big "E"?

Laura: No. No, no, no. It's all of them standing around, and it looks...

Andrew: Oh, yeah.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that.

Laura: It looks exactly like the Goblet of Fire poster.

Andrew: Well, of course. They want all the Harry Potter dorks to come out and see it. It's "the next great adventure film!" That's not what they're calling it, but I'm sure that's what they're trying to market it to be.

News Discussion: MuggleNet Book

Andrew: Other than that it was a pretty slow news week, but there was one news item that got posted on MuggleNet and nowhere else, Ben.

Ben: Oh! Which one?

Jamie: Yeah, it's a book. Have you heard of it? We wrote it a few months ago.

Ben: Oh, yeah. [laughs] That one.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Go out and buy it.'s What will happen in Harry Potter 7: Who lives? Who dies? Who falls in love? And how the adventure finally ends. The book is written by myself, Jamie, Emerson, Gretchen, and Andy, so go check it out. I mean, you can preorder it from Alivan's. The book won't actually be on shelves in your local Barnes and Noble and/or Borders store until late November or early December, so you can pick up a copy now.

Andrew: Is there some sort of money back guarantee I can get if you guys are way off on your predictions?

Ben: Uhhh...

Jamie: We will, uhhh...

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: Yeah. Just yeah.

Andrew: Yeah? Okay. [laughs]

Ben: But also, something else...

Laura: You might need it. [laughs]

Jamie: Yeah. [laughs]

Order Countdown, Visit MuggleShop, Check out Halloween Layout

Ben: Check out MuggleNet now. Speaking of "Order of the Phoenix," we added Order of the Phoenix countdown.

Andrew: Wooo!

Jamie: Wee.

Ben: So, go ahead and download that.

Andrew: I'm pumped.

Jamie: And MuggleShop.

Ben: We also have a Halloween layout. And, with the holiday season approaching, you can use's new Harry Potter store called MuggleShop. It has every Harry Potter item. For each purchase you make, we earn a commission. It goes towards supporting the podcast, the site, everything, so go purchase your Harry Potter related Christmas items there.

MuggleCast T-Shirt Update

Andrew: Speaking of purchasing, if you do want to help support MuggleCast, you can also purchase a MuggleCast t-shirt. We've also learned, guys, that we will only be able to sell the MuggleCast t-shirts until January 1st.

Ben: So now is the time to buy.

Andrew: If you're thinking about it, yeah, now is the time to buy. And we're not kidding. We have to be finished selling them.

Ben: Sales will be discontinued!

Jamie: Yeah, we aren't kidding.

Andrew: Also, don't forget to vote for us on Podcast Alley. We appreciate everyone's vote over there to keep everyone in the podcast community reminded that we PWN! [Pronounces it 'pawn'] at life.

Tangent: PWN!

Ben: [Mocking Andrew] PWN? [pronounces it 'pawn']

Andrew: And at podcasting. Yes, we PWN. [Pronounces it 'pawn'] P-w-n?

Laura: That's not how you say it.

Andrew: Do you not speak Leet?

Ben: It's PWN, [Pronounces it 'pone']

Laura: It's PWN. [Pronounces it 'pone']

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No, we here in New Jersey say "PWN." [Pronounces it 'pawn']

Ben: It's PQN. [Pronounces it 'pone']

Jamie: No, no, no, you mean just you, Andrew?

Laura: A pawn is a chess piece, Andrew.

Andrew: No crap!

Jamie: We 'queen and castle' at everything.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: No, seriously, you just made another flub, now you're embarrassed again.

Andrew: No, no, I'm serious. We... No, everyone says "PWN." [Pronounces it 'pawn']

Ben: No they don't, you're lying. Andrew. PWN. [pronounces it 'pone'] Dork. Whatever.

Ben: I've been there. Nobody pronounces it 'pawn.'

Prophecy 2007

Andrew: Moving on. As we announced last week, we will probably be at Prophecy. We can't officially announce anything yet. They've asked us to not start going at it just yet. But we've been getting a lot of emails about it asking if we're going to be there, and it looks like we will go. Maybe not a live podcast, but we will be there.

Jamie: Aren't we doing a podcast?

Andrew: Probably. I'm not sure yet. But we can't guarantee anything yet.

Listener Rebuttal - MuggleCast T-Shirt Update

Andrew: We have a rebuttal for everyone now, and then we'll get into some fun Halloween discussion on ghosts this week, created by Micah. This rebuttal comes from Miranda of Idaho.

"I wholeheartedly agree with Laura that the Department of Mysteries will play a big role in Book Seven. As a matter of fact [laughs] I think the Department of Mysteries and the Love Room will play a huge role as the setting of the final battle between Harry and Voldemort, with Harry utilizing the power within the room to overcome Voldemort. Even though Harry wasn't able to open the door in Order of the Phoenix, he has to be one of the few people than could actually enter the Love Room, full of what Dumbledore described as the 'most beautiful and terrifying power' because of his mother's love and his ability to love. It makes sense for the one thing that saved Harry in the first place, love, to once again save him, and it being the first thing that brought Voldemort's downfall also be his final demise. Truly, the only thing that Voldemort doesn't understand, obviously, is the ancient magic of love, and since Lily's unprecedented love for Harry was only enough to save her child and rip Voldemort from his body, it will take even stronger love, such as that in the room, in order to actually kill him. Love the show, and Ben, you're my favorite."

Ben: Awww.

Andrew: Clearly this girl is nuts.

[Ben, Micah, and Laura laugh]

Andrew: [laughs]Shut up. Good point brought up by Miranda of Idaho. Very nice.

Laura: Thank you, Miranda.

Micah: I don't know if I agree with the final battle taking place there, though.

Laura: Well, I don't if that'll happen, but...

Andrew: I do think that's a bit of a stretch.

Laura: But, nut, I think that Harry's going to be there, for some reason.

Andrew: Mhm.

Micah: You think he's going to study there, don't you? That's your big thing, Laura.

Laura: Yes! I don't think he's going to go and like, open up a notebook [laughs] and start taking notes, but...

Micah: But he's going to go there at some point.

Laura: He's going to go there, yeah. Of course, he has to.

Where Will Final Battle Take Place?

Andrew: Where do you guys think the final battle will take place?

Ben: Hogwarts.

Laura: Not at Hogwarts! Not at Hogwarts. Oh my god.

Andrew: I think it should.

Laura: No!

Ben: Why not, Laura? Why not?

Laura: Every bad fan fiction I've ever read in my whole life, they have the final battle take place at Hogwarts, and then...

Micah: No, no, nit

Laura: First years are out fighting Death Eaters. It's ridiculous. No.

Micah: I think it should be at Godric's Hollow.

Andrew: Yeah, oh, that would be good. Yeah.

Azkaban in Order of the Phoenix

Andrew: You guys want a cool Azkaban fact?

Laura: Sure.

Andrew: In the movie Order of Phoenix, it's on a waterfall cliff. Did we say that at the live podcast?

Ben: No.

Micah: No.

Laura: It is, is it?

Andrew: It's on a waterfall cliff in the shape of a "V." No, an "A," but it looks like a "V." It's really cool.

MuggleCasters' Past Halloween Experiences

Andrew: So, since it is our Halloween show, we're going have a little talk about Halloween in the past. Right, Jamie?

Jamie: Yeah, we are. We're going to talk about what we did for Halloween as children or what we do now if we still like trick-or-treating and enjoy it. Let's do it. Andrew, what did you do?

Andrew: Does anyone still trick-or-treat right now?

Laura: No.

Andrew: Okay.

Micah: I do.

Ben: Micah does.

Andrew: [laughs] Micah. I was just wondering.

Laura: My mom won't let me.

Andrew: [Laughs and imitates Laura] I can't be out past eight.

Ben: Out of curiosity, when did you guys stop trick-or-treating? For me it was sixth - fifth grade.

Andrew: Oh, geez. I stopped two or three - no. When was it? Eighth grade, I think I stopped.

Laura: I don't...

Andrew: I don't know, I just woke up one morning and was like, "I'm not going trick-or-treating this year. It's lame."

[Ben laughs]

Laura: I don't - I think it was probably eighth grade.

Jamie: How do you guys remember?

Laura: [laughs] It's kind of sad.

Andrew: Well, we know Micah's answer.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Jamie, do you still trick-or-treat? Do they even have Halloween over there?

Jamie: No yes they do, but I have a confession to make. I haven't ever trick-or-treated, ever, in my life. Nor have I dressed up for Halloween.

Andrew: What?

Jamie: I just I've just never ever seen the attraction, to be honest, of going out.

Andrew: Even when you were in third grade, you were like, "This isn't cool?"

Jamie: Oh, yeah, yeah. I was only interested in, sort of, nuclear physics and maths back then. I didn't...

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: No, seriously. You never dressed up?

Jamie: No, yeah, I just didn't see the attraction of it. I just thought, you know, in the freezing cold going out and asking for candy, and most people are mean and they don't give you good candy, they just give you something.

Andrew: How do you know if you've never done it? [laughs]

Jamie: Well, yeah, because I have a very pessimistic view of the world, Andrew. Everybody's mean.

[Everyone laughs]

Jamie: Everyone only cares about themselves. That stuff.

Laura: Do you guys know that they don't really have Halloween in Australia?

Ben: Hmm.

Andrew: Really?

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: That's interesting to know.

Jamie: So, yeah. Yeah, just never done it. Maybe I should. Maybe I'll find it the most thrilling thing in the world, ever. Perhaps.

Micah's Goofiest Costume

Andrew: I mean, I know I used to. What was the goofiest Halloween costume anyone has dressed up as? How about you, Micah?

Micah: Goofiest was probably in college, dressing up as a Royal Tenenbaums.

Andrew: Oooh, do you have a picture of that?

Micah: I do, actually.

Jamie: Yeah!

Andrew: Any chance we could use it as our album art for this week's show?

Jamie: For this week?

Micah: Sure.

Jamie: So you can appear on millions of iPods around the world.

Micah: You want to see me dressed up as Gene Hackman.

Andrew: Yeah.

Jamie: Oh, yeah, that's my biggest fantasy. I dream that every night.

[Everyone laughs]

Micah: A white-haired old man.

Andrew's Goofiest Costume - M&M or Eminem?

Andrew: I would have to say, I was an M&M one year, and that was kind of weird.

Ben: Okay, you were Eminem or an M&M?

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: An M&M, I said.

Jamie: Oh, I thought you said...

Ben: Oh, I thought you said you were Eminem one year.

Andrew: No! [laughs] I said an M&M.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: That's why I asked you if you carried a chainsaw around with you.

Andrew: No!

Jamie: Because he carries a chainsaw. I didn't realize - oh my god, that must have sounded so weird.

Ben: I thought you were a rapper.

Andrew: No, I wasn't the rapper! Why would I be Eminem the rapper?

[Laura Laughs}

Ben: Because [laughs] that's an actual Halloween costume!

Jamie: Andrew...

Andrew: It is? I've never seen someone dress up as Eminem. [laughs]

Jamie: What did you think I meant when I...

Andrew: Eminem isn't a costume.

Ben: How old were you when you were an M&M?

Andrew: Third grade. [laughs]

Ben: Oh, I was going to say. If you were any older than that, that would be funny.

Jamie: How old is third grade?

Micah: You realize the avatars now, right? Are going to be Andrew's head on an M&M.

Laura: [laughs] Yeah.

Andrew: Whatever. If someone does that I'll just put the picture up of me dressed up as an M&M. I don't care.

Jamie: How old is third grade?

Andrew: Seven or eight.

Jamie: Andrew, what do you think I meant when I said, "Did you bring a chainsaw with you?"

[Laura and Micah laugh]

Andrew: I thought you were joking because it would be a candy M&M and a chainsaw, so it would be kind of funny.

Jamie: Oh my god!

Laura: Yeah, I honestly didn't get it either yesterday. I was like, what is he talking about?

Jamie: I thought you meant Eminem.

Andrew: Eminem does not carry around a chainsaw!

Jamie: Eminem does though. Eminem.

Andrew: No, he doesn't!

Jamie: Yes, he does. There's a picture of him with like, a mask on holding a chainsaw.

Andrew: A picture.

Jamie: Yeah. That means he has done it. Hence, he has done it before. Therefore...

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: All right. I guess so.

Jamie's Negative View of Halloween

Micah: Jamie, do you still plan to steal candy?

Jamie: Yes, I'm not going to be nice to anyone. I think my pessimistic view of the world is true, that everyone's mean. I'm not going to completely disappoint myself. I'm going to be mean as well.

[Ben laughs]

Jamie: I'm going to steal everything. I'm going to dropkick pumpkins. I'm going to - I'm going to take off costumes and throw them in the garbage can.

Main Discussion: Ghosts at Hogwarts

Andrew: So, continuing with our cute little Halloween theme here, we're going to ghosts at Hogwarts because there are quite a few of them and we've never really talked about them much at all. We've talked about Peeves once or twice, we've probably had a little discussion about Nearly Headless Nick and Moaning Myrtle, but never really had a full discussion on all the ghosts. Isn't that right, Micah?

House Ghosts

Micah: That is right, Andrew. Ghosts at Hogwarts. You know, each House has a ghost, so what characteristics do you guys think that a House ghost has that links them to a particular House?

Laura: I think it was...

Micah: Based on what we've seen.

Laura: ...the house they were in when they went to school.

Andrew: Is that always the house that they were...

Jamie: I think it probably is.

Andrew: ...that they represent?

Laura: Well, why would... Okay, if Nearly Headless Nick were a Ravenclaw, why would he be the Gryffindor ghost?

Andrew: What I, I... Yeah.

Laura: That makes no sense.

Jamie: That is very true. [laughs] So, yeah.

Laura: I think The Bloody Baron was a Hufflepuff, in that case.

Jamie: Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Andrew: No, so Nearly Headless Nick was a...

Ben: Obviously.

Andrew: ...brave young lad.

Micah: Yep.

Andrew: That's - that could explain why he is nearly headless, folks.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: And the Fat Friar was...

Andrew: Maybe Harry's going the same way.

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