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Voicemail: How Do You Kill a Werewolf?

[Audio]: Hey, MuggleCast! This is Peter, age 13, of Atlanta, Georgia. "Pickle!" as Andrew says on the message. I was calling with a theory. Well, not so much a theory, more of a question. Jo said on her site that Remus Lupin will not be killed by Peter Pettigrew's silver hand, and I agree with that. I think that would be really dumb, but she said the only thing that could kill a werewolf is a silver bullet. Does that mean that Remus wouldn't be killed if he was hit with the AK? And if so, where would a wizard get a silver bullet to shoot Remus with, since that's a Muggle item? Thanks so much! Love your show! See you later!

Andrew: Well, I mean, all youíve got to do is go into the weapon store and pick it up. [laughs] To be honest...

Laura: Yeah, well, I think the important part of that question is she said that, yeah, the only thing that kills...

Andrew: A silver...

Laura: ...a werewolf is a silver bullet, so could he be killed by Avada Kedavra?

Eric: Thatís such a - like, a weird question. Itís good, but itís, like, itís weird.

Kevin: Well, a werewolf...

Eric: Yeah.

Kevin: ... canít be killed, but Lupin in his human formÖ

Laura: Form probably could, yeah.

Kevin: Probably could.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: So, heís not indestructible. [laughs]

Kevin: Right. Itís sort of like the benefit of being a werewolf, if there is one, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: When you are uncontrollable and you canít help yourself...

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: That is the one time youíre invulnerable to the Killing Curse.

Eric: But I donít think youíre ever invulnerable to the Death Curse. I mean, if youíre living and you're...

Micah: Weíve talked about this before. Ben mentioned one time - well, if Hagrid got hit with a bunch of them, would it take, like, ten of them to kill him, or would he just take one, and thatís it?

Eric: Because of thicker skin or something, and I know a few of us were under the impression that...

Andrew: Being a half-giant. Yeah

Eric: ... thick-skinned or not, one soul, one life force, but then everybody else was like, you know, dragon hide, or armor, or Avada Kedavra armor. Or... [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Right.

Eric: So, yeah, but I think when Jo was talking about this, it was kind of about the mythology of werewolf, because, you know, Pettigrewís silver hand, obviously, and that was like, okay, so thatís kind of plot foreshadowing, or it could be; silver and werewolves, what about Peter Pettigrew killing Lupin? And JKR, I believe it was something, said that that wonít happen, as this voice mail mentions, but I donít - but by saying that only a silver bullet can kill a werewolf, at the same time, itís not really saying that only a silver bullet can kill a werewolf, as in Avada Kedavra canít? If somebody went up and hit - whatís the bad werewolfís name, that Draco threatens Borgin with that he knows?

Micah: Fenrir Greyback.

Eric: Gren - Greyback. Fenrir Greyback. Thank you, Micah. Fenrir Greyback, I mean, Dumbledore - well, Fenrir got the crud beat out of him that night on the tower, and if somebody AKíed him, Iím pretty sure that would have worked.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: You know, human form or not, I think even in wolf form, the Avada Kedavra should kind of work.

Micah: I donít see any silver bullets in Book Seven, sorry.

Laura: No, I donít, either.

Eric: There arenít any guns.

Kevin: I donít, either.

Laura: I donít know.

Eric: Were there ever any guns in the Harry Potter series?

Laura: I donít know, but I think the point is that Jo words her answers very carefully, and if sheís saying the only thing that can kill a werewolf is a silver bullet...

Kevin: Yeah.

Laura: ... itís not out of the realm of possibility to say that werewolves canít be killed by the Avada Kedavra curse.

Eric: Itís true. Itís just interesting, also, because Moody emphasized it in Goblet of Fire, and this is my final point on this, in Goblet of Fire, Moody said that Harry is the only survivor of the Death Curse, and plenty of people have said that. So, would that be not including werewolves? Only human survivor of the Death Curse, or only living being that survived the Death Curse? Because how important is Harry in this whole thing? Is he just the only human boy who survived it if werewolves are impervious?

Laura: I believe heís...

Micah: Then there would be a mass transformation to like [laughs] all different types of creatures, so they donít get killed.

Eric: Yeah, thatís...

Laura: I think that Moody said, "the only person known ever to have survived it." So, yeah.

Eric: Huh.

Voicemail: Spending Time at Privet Drive

[Audio]: Hi, this is Jessica from Florida, and I have a general voicemail question. I was just wondering if there was a specific time limit to the amount of time that Harry has to spend at the Dursley's for Dumbledore's magic to keep its effect? JKR mentioned that the time he spent during Half-Blood Prince at the Dursley's was the shortest time that he had ever spent there, which was two weeks, so I would think that he would spend two weeks there during Book Seven just to be safe. Additionally, do you even think that the magic still exists because of Dumbledore's death? I love the show, and I've been wondering this for a while, so I'd love your input. Thanks, bye!

Laura: I donít think that it was a spell that Dumbledore used...

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: I think that itís magic thatís created...

Micah: I agree.

Laura: ...because of Petuniaís connection to Lily, so I think it is still there.

Eric: Yeah, it was, it was a blood connection, even though Voldemort... [laughs] Sorry, even though Dumbledore performed that spell on Privet Drive, it should still hold, as long as the blood relation is there.

Laura: Yeah, as long as Petunia will take him in.

Eric: Or as long as Harry calls it home or whatever.

Laura: Yeah, exactly. So, and - yeah.

Andrew: With that said...

Laura: But, I mean...

Andrew: Well...

Laura: Theoretically,

Eric: Oh, good, that means that...

Laura: kind of answered your question: Could Harry be protected for another year if Petunia just invited him into the house for dinner? [laughs] Or does he actually have to stay there for a certain amount of time?

Micah: Well, he has to go back.

Andrew: Yeah, thatís - thatís what weíre...

Micah: Thereís no question about it.

Laura: Well, yeah, of course.

Micah: He was pretty much told, wasnít he?

Laura: But how much time? How long does he have to stay?

Eric: Well, until he turns a man, until he turns 17.

Andrew: No, no, no, no. Weíre talking about how long does he have to go before he can go back to Hogwarts again.

Eric: Oh.

Andrew: How, how...

Laura: Like, how long does he have to stay with them...

Andrew: Like what heís been doing over the past few summers?

Laura: ...that summer, yeah.

Micah: Until the wedding, probably.

Eric: Until he turns 17. No, and...

Kevin: Yeah, and they get sort of like a - itís a limitation to the protection, kind of?

Micah: I would say until the wedding.

Kevin: I mean...

Micah: That would be my guess.

Andrew: Why?

Eric: Not until the wedding, because...

Andrew: Why?

Eric: ...he turns - Dumbledore says that as soon as he becomes of age, the protection will wear off, so...

Kevin: Right. Itís sort of like the family protection of a child. Once you are considered a man, you are now responsible for yourself and are responsible for protecting yourself.

Eric: The two weeks just has to deal with the fact that by the time Hogwarts is over and they go home, it's actually mid or late June, or maybe even July, so that it's only two weeks or so until his birthday. That's what I thought it meant.

Micah: Do we know when they're getting married, though? I mean it would seem like an easy way out, for him to leave. I think also that he might realize, "Hey, well, when this protection wears off, there's a good chance that the relatives that I do still have alive, as much as I hate them, are going to be in danger."

Eric: Yeah, that's true. It's very true. Once the protection is off, then people, then Voldemort can set foot in Privet Drive if he wanted to, and really turn things upside down. So, it makes sense, that yeah, that he would turn seventeen - but the voicemail's asking when is the protection good for. I think that's until his birthday.

Laura: You think it's good until his birthday?

Micah: But...

Kevin: Right, same here.

Laura: I think that's probably the best answer.

Eric: There's no saying - yeah. There's no saying he won't leave Privet Drive only to go to wedding right away. I mean, that's cool. But, I think it's still his birthday.

Andrew: I think he's going to want to be out. I cannot picture him sitting there while all this is going on.

Eric: Well, he did...

Andrew: I mean, he's done it in the past books, I know. But in this situation, especially with Dumbledore dead.

Laura: Hey, that could be... Yeah, that could be... What if Harry decides that it's not worth the protection to stay, and he leaves?

Eric: Whoa!

Laura: No, and then he's without the protection. What if something extremely drastic happens and he refuses to stay there?

Andrew: Right. Because, he's going to want to - the protection's going to wear off, come his birthday, anyway, so why hold out?

Kevin: Why stay there...

Andrew: An extra month or two.

Kevin: Yeah. And what are they going to be expecting? I mean, Death Eaters, they know he's chilling around the house...

Andrew: This Book Seven should just...

[Everyone laughs]

Kevin: Come his birthday, they are all going to on the door, at the door, you know?

Eric: Okay, seventeen, let's all go.

Andrew: This Book Seven should just be called Order of the Phoenix 2 because there's going to be so much stuff involving the Order.

Eric: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, there will be. [laughs] There is going to be a lot of stuff involving the Order.

Andrew: It's meant to be a joke.

Micah: [mockingly] Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Kevin: [mockingly] Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Andrew: It wasnít well recepted.

Eric: Funny.

Andrew: It's true, yeah it is.

Micah: I thought he has to stay there for at least one night. I thought that's what he was told.

Eric: One night? Oh, one night after his birthday, do you mean? Or...

Micah: No, he has to return to Privet Drive for at least one night.

Laura: I thought that...

Eric: To seal the protection.

Andrew: What does that do? Renew your protection juices?

[Laura laughs]

Micah: Maybe there's something we don't know. Do you know what I mean? Maybe there's something that's going to happen as a result of him staying there.

Laura: Yeah, I thought that Dumbledore always said that so long as Harry could call it home.

Eric: Well, that was, for all intents and purposes, it was that long in Book Three, when he said it or something.

Andrew: But I think what we're saying is, how long do you have to stay in the house to renew your...

Laura: Subscription to your protection.

Andrew: Whatever. Your subscription. Yeah, exactly.

Eric: I think basically what all was said was, "The protection will no longer be good once Harry's on his own," and along those same terms he said, "The power will still be good while you can call it home, until you come of age," is basically the whole perspective of what I think was going on. I don't know.

Andrew: Yeah. All right. Let's move along.

Voicemail: Luna the Seer?

[Audio]: Hi MuggleCast! I was just wondering if I could get your opinion on whether you thought Luna Lovegood was a Seer of some sort, since she seems to always be coming up with these strange thoughts, and Professor Trelawney is pretty strange herself. So, maybe. Anyways, just wanted to hear what you think. Thanks, guys! Love the show! Pickles!

Laura: I don't know. I mean, I think it's possible, but at the same time...

Andrew: I think it's a silly question.

Micah: No, no. She doesn't have that prophetic name.

Laura: There are no stupid questions.

Micah: Not Cassandra or Sybil.

Andrew: She's Loony Lovegood!

Eric: She's weird!

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: Like Andrew's saying. She's a little weird...

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: She has little stray thoughts that her father probably implants in her brain, and...

Laura: Although I do have to say, to her credit, if she were, she wouldn't run around bragging about it.

Eric: That's true.

Andrew: Why not?

Laura: Because she's not that kind of person.

Andrew: Oh yeah.

Laura: She's not like Trelawney, she wouldn't run around saying, "Oh, I have this ability, and I can do this and this and this," because she's just not that kind of character.

Eric: Yeah, she doesn't preach. She doesn't preach. She doesn't throw the Rotfang conspiracy around in everyone's faces, saying, "Fudge has got this Ministry guard of werewolves and we're all going to die." She doesn't say it to people, she just believes it.

Voicemail: Do the Dursleys Have a Stable Marriage?

[Audio]: Hey guys, this is Paige from Maryland. Quick question for you: I wanted to know if you thought that Vernon and Petunia's relationship was stable, or what you thought they were about, because apparently Petunia knows some stuff that Vernon doesn't know, and they're hiding stuff from each other. So, just wanted to know what you thought about that. Thanks! Love you all! Bye!

Andrew: Not to judge, but, don't all...

[Laura laughs]

Laura: Andrew's going to say, "Don't all marriages..."

Andrew: Don't all wedd - don't all relationships - yeah. Isn't there something hidden?

Eric: Marriages have secrets? Well, yeah. That kind of goes along with the first sentence of the book. You know? "Mr. and Mrs. Vernon Dursley were proud to say they were perfectly normal." Unfortunately, being normal entails marital problems or secrets or some kind of ghosts in the closet. Who doesn't have ghosts in the closet?

Kevin: Yeah. Skeleton in the closet, you mean?

Eric: [laughs] Did I say ghosts in the closet?

Laura: Yeah, but I think the point here is that Petunia knows much more about magic and the wizarding world than she is willing to let on to to Vernon.

Andrew: Well, maybe Vernon doesn't want to know.

Eric: There's part of that.

Laura: He seemed to want to know in Order of the Phoenix though.

Eric: Well, kind of. The Order of the Phoenix really accentuated Vernon's situation, because here he has owls flying in and out, and Vernon's here, and his wife told him a long time ago that she didn't like her sister very much at all, or her husband, and Vernon accepted that. And then Harry shows up, and of course it's this tie that Petunia doesn't really like. And so, Vernon keeps quiet about it. He's an obedient husband, and he grows or this dislike for magic grows on him to the point where he's ripping up Harry's letters from Hogwarts all on Petunia's behalf. Then, all these owls start coming, his son is attacked, and he's completely flipping out, which is exactly what Petunia would have wanted him to do, except at that very moment Petunia says, "This boy has to stay here." And Vernon is in such a pickle.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: And I did just say pickle.

Kevin: Yes, you did.

Eric: But he's in such a pickle because here he's this guy who didn't ask too many questions because he knew it would upset his wife. We've had the leisure, the privilege of having that insight into Vernon before. You know? He's that kind of guy. He doesn't want to upset his wife, but yet she knows so much more about him that she doesn't let on, and it's just this ongoing kind of thing where he won't ask but he kind of should know because it's just a matter of time before Petunia has to divulge it.

Andrew: Right.

Eric: With Harry's situation, I just love that character aspect about the Dursleys. It's easy to see them as comical people, but they are a real family, and something's really going on with Vernon and Petunia. Is it a stable relationship? Probably not, but I don't really see Vernon packing his bags and walking out and saying, "You don't tell me nothing." I mean...

Andrew: I think it's just rocky now. They were obviously in love when they got married and Harry got in the way, but they knew they were going to pull through it eventually. It's not going to be soon. Not until Book Seven is long gone.

Laura: Yeah, I agree...

Andrew: I don't know.

Laura: I think that despite the fact that they're not the world's best people, I think that they do love each other.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: But obviously the crux is that Vernon doesn't know, and he doesn't really have the nerve to ask too much.

Andrew: I just think he's afraid to know?

Laura: Yeah, and he doesn't...

Eric: He is afraid.

Laura: ...want to upset her, either. He said so in the first book, that he didn't want to ask too many questions because it would tick her off.

Eric: Right. But this hatred for magic and different people...

Micah: Yeah, where does it come from?

Eric: ...really is brought out in Petunia. Well, it's brought on by Petunia to begin with, is what I think.

Laura: Yeah, because he loves Petunia, and he doesn't want anything to upset her.

Eric: So, he adopts her morals, but now she's kind of betraying that. She asked him to become this guy who says, [imitates Vernon] "Enough effing owls." But, really, it's kind of, you know? She's now going back on that, and she has to kind of admit, "Yeah, the Dementoids guard Azkaban." So...

Laura: Okay, so next one.

Voicemail: Did Dumbledore and Petunia Make an Unbreakable Vow?

[Audio]: Hi guys, this is Dara from Santa Monica, California. This is a very late response to Episode 57 about Aunt Petunia, but while I was listening to it in the car on the way home today, I was thinking of a theory that could possibly answer the, "What is Dudley's fear?" question, and, "What it is about Aunt Petunia that we don't know?" My theory is that Aunt Petunia maybe made the Unbreakable Vow with Dumbledore before Harry was left with the Dursleys. There is obviously many enchantments left over Privet Drive to ensure Harry's safety until he is of age, but do you think that Aunt Petunia has made a vow to keep Harry there until he is 17? That would explain why she said he had to stay in the fifth book, when Vernon obviously wanted him to go away. But, [laughs] I can't quite get over the fact that he did leave Privet drive in the third book, but since he was immediately taken in by the Ministry, maybe it doesn't count. Maybe the Unbreakable Vow was told to Dudley, in which case his greatest fear is Harry leaving and his mother dying from breaking the Unbreakable Vow. [laughs] Tell me what you think. I know it's far-fetched, but I couldn't get it out of my head while listening to Episode 57. Thanks a lot, and I love your show! Pickles rock!

Laura: I think what she's saying is that perhaps Dudley's worst fear could be his mother dying as a result of breaking an Unbreakable Vow, or as a result of...

Micah: No.

Laura: ...something to do with Harry.

Micah: No, no, no. Okay, he wasn't even old enough to witness it.

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: If the vow took place. I mean, he wouldn't even know what was going on.

Laura: No, I don't think so either.

Micah: So, I don't think there is any chance.

Eric: He's an obnoxious boy, and...

Laura: I'm not sure it's because of the vow. I think that his greatest fear could be something to do with...

Micah: His greatest fear is an empty fridge, all right?

[Eric and Laura Laugh]

Laura: I don't know. I think, though... I mean, I think that Ė we were just talking about with Vernon and Petunia, they're not the world's greatest people, but they love each other. And I think that Dudley loves his parents, despite the fact that he's a little twit. And...

[Micah laughs]

Laura: ...I think that he realizes that especially after Order of the Phoenix that...

Micah: Hey, Laura, how do you feel about Dudley?

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: I think he's great. But I think that he realizes especially after Order of the Phoenix that what Harry is tied up in is very dangerous, and that it could be a threat to his family. So, his worst fear could be...

Kevin: Yeah, I think so, too.

Laura: ...Death Eaters or Dementors, or whatever, raining down on his house.

Eric: The greatest fear is the unknown, but there is the thing, if we're talking about Dudley's fear, there is the thing that Dumbledore alluded to about the mistreatment of Dudley, like, "I will not abuse your son any more than you have." And Dudley went silent, and everybody else was sort of like, "Okay, what the heck is he talking about?"

Laura: I don't think that he's talking about that kind. I think he's talking about abuse, like being spoiled.

Kevin: He's talking about...

Eric: Oh.

Kevin: Right.

Eric: Kind of like Willy Wonka said to Augustus Goup's parents. But would you guys say that - this whole vow thing, I just want to put an end to this, at least as far as my thoughts go. I think when the Dursleys agreed to take him in to begin with, when the Dursleys picked Harry up in his little blanket Ė plaid blanket, if we're to believe the movies Ė and took him into that house. As soon as they took him into that household, I thought that that was sealing the deal.

Laura: Yes.

Eric: That was doing a vow. That was Ė I don't think there was a separate occasion where Petunia met Dumbledore for tea, and they had to lock hands and do a vow. I think just Ė the letter probably would have explained, "By taking him into this house it is sealing this magical enchantment that I put on it. Try and give him enough of a home. I mean, otherwise the protection won't work."

Laura: And I think that Petunia realizes that despite the fact that she doesn't want anything to do with this world, that her world could be in danger as a result of not taking Harry in.

Eric: Exactly, and there's only...

Kevin: Yeah, that's true.

Eric: much you can be ignorant, too, before you have to start understanding what's going to affect you.

Micah: And Dumbledore would never put somebody else in a position where they would risk their own life, so to speak, in terms of a vow.

Laura: Yeah, I don't see him forcing someone to take an Unbreakable Vow.

Eric: Yeah, that's what we said to begin with, as far as in Ė you know, when Book Six first came out. Would he do a vow? Well, no, because he trusts people. Plus, it could be sealed in other magical enchantments.

Andrew: All right. Well, phew! That was a lot of voicemails, boys and girls and Micah.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: So, like Dementors aren't...

Kevin: Yes, it was.

Laura: They're not human and they're not animals, Micah is just Micah? He's not...

Andrew: Micah. He's his own species. I'd take that as a compliment. Micah?

Kevin: It's true.

Micah: I do. I take it as a compliment.

Andrew: Oh, okay. Good.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: He's Ė you're an anchorman. You're not a man, you're not a woman, you're an anchorman. That's what it comes down to.

[Micah laughs]

Update on Robin's Challenge

Andrew: We have an update, now, on Robin's Challenge, which we brought to you last week, from a mature listener, who e-mailed asking for other mature listeners to e-mail in and let us know that they listen.

Eric: Let's differentiate between mature and older. I mean...

Andrew: Yeah, because we got an e-mail about this earlier today. They were like, "Well just because Ė the younger listeners aren't immature!"

Laura: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: And I replied and said, "Well, mature doesn't mean..."

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: "Robin doesn't mean mature as in older, Robin means..." Oh, no, no, no. "Robin means..."

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: "... mature as in older, not as in immature."

Eric: [laughs] Yeah. Basically adult fans.

Andrew: Right. Yes. Thank you. Okay. The first one comes from Terri, 53, of Saint Louis, Missouri. She writes:

"Hi Guys! I'm 53 years young and have been listening to MuggleCast from the first episode. I have three grownup sons, so I'm used to listening to video game talk. I'm not a gamer but listening about the new Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix game might make me try it! Great show."

Eric: Wow!

Andrew: "I also listen to PotterCast and SnapeCast, but since you are the first podcast I ever listened to, you have a special place in my heart."

Laura: Awww.

Eric: Awww.

Andrew: Well thank you, Terri. How nice of her. Lauren, 54, of Connecticut writes:

"Okay, I fess up, I am a MuggleCast fan who is of 'a certain age'. I have been listening to you guys since the third or fourth show, and I get a lot of laughs and good feelings from it. I just think that with all the negative things that are going on in the world, it is encouraging to hear young people put their attention into putting out something that makes people feel good. It may be true that it is important not to put your head in the sand about the state of the world, but I am a firm believer in creating your universe, so I am completely in support of what you are doing."

Eric: Oooh!

Andrew: "If more people were like some of the characters of Jo's books, and courageously made efforts to resist the temptation to be cynical instead of making a difference with their words and actions, we will be a much better world for it. Go MuggleCast!" Thank you, Lauren, for that. Another one, Diana, 41, of California writes: "Hi, I am addicted to the show - Diana." [laughs]

Micah: She's 41.

Andrew: That's what I said.

Micah: I thought you said she was addicted to the show.

Laura: No, he said Diana, 41, of California.

Andrew: Oh, she put...she wrote...

Micah: Oh.

Andrew: "Hi, I am 41 and addicted to the show."

Another one. Actually, I'm surprised we got this one. Albus Dumbledore, 150-ish...

Eric: Whoa.

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Writes Ė er, from Ė he heard of us through word of mouth. Location: If I told you, Jo would really kill me.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Albus writes:

"I have a few confessions to make. I was moved by Robin's letter on last week's MuggleCast episode. I am a mature listener, at 150 years of age, and I am 'coming out of the closet,' if you will."

That's very nice of him.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: "Not only am I a very mature listener, but I am not really dead. If I were dead, I wouldn't be able to e-mail you right now. I assure you, there is no Internet reception behind the veil. Yes. Well, that is all. Signed Albus."

[Eric laughs]

Laura: I think we need to change our little captions on the main page, to say, "Appearance by Albus Dumbledore."

Andrew: Yeah, well that, too. Yeah. [laughs] And who other, oh, Narcissa. The next one; Sylvia, 23, of Boston writes:

"Well, I'm not really 'of a certain age,' because I'm only 23, however my father and sister do fall into the category of 'a certain age.' My father is 66 and finds Harry Potter to be a pleasant enough read, that I was encouraged to buy him a copy of The Science of Harry Potter: How Magic Really Works. My sister's 31, and she loves the books. I am the only one who is a MuggleCast listener, however, because I am the only one with the time to play with iTunes. My mother is, unfortunately, not a Harry Potter fan, because she is not a fan of the fantasy genre. Just isn't her cup of tea."

This last one comes from Emiras, 35, of the Fresh Meadows in New York. She writes:

"I am a 35-year-old Harry Potter and MuggleCast fan. I have been listening to the Podcast for about a year now. Like Robin, I enjoy hearing people exchange ideas and theories on a subject I hold near and dear. Between working full-time and being a mom to my own 11-year-old Weasley twin."

"Twins," I guess she meant.

"I don't have much time to myself; I look forward to my weekly MuggleCast listening times Ė if it's on the bus, on my way home from work, while cooking dinner for my family, or listening while in the bath after a long day, I look forward to each new episode. Some working moms have yoga, I've got Andrew, Ben, Kevin, Jamie, Micah and Laura to keep me sane. Keep up the great work, guys!"


[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Oh, oh, she missed you. Oh, wait, that... [laughs]

Eric: Ummm...

[Andrew and Laura continue to laugh]

Laura: Oh.

Andrew: Well, I will admit Eric sometimes drives us all insane.

"Keep up the great..."

Eric, I'm sure it was just a mistake.

Eric: [Grunts skeptically] Uhhh.

Andrew: "Keep up the great work, guys. Your enthusiasm is..."

Does she mean "contagious" or "contiguous"?

Eric: It's "contiguous." She's cool.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: "Your enthusiasm is contiguous, and..."

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: "...inspiring to us older listeners."

Eric: I got Andrew to say "contiguous."

Andrew: "Thanks for the smiles."

Eric's Crackpot Theory of the Week

Andrew: We have a Crackpot Theory for everyone, this week.

Eric: Oh, crap. I mean, crack... pot.

Andrew: Eric Scull!

Eric: Uh.

Andrew: This one comes from Jacob, 24, of Texas:

"Percy Weasley will help Harry contact Sirius behind the Veil."


Eric: Uh. Well, Percy Ė as a Ministry official Ė would have, maybe, some information regarding the methods of doing anything, I guess. I don't know. The Unspeakables Ė Percy is not an Unspeakable, but he is an Undersecretary to the Minister or was, at one point. I Ė it's not too unlikely that if Percy is, in fact, good, in fact, or is, in fact, willing to help Harry, that he would know where to go about obtaining any information, be it, well, more specifically, stuff that goes on in the Ministry. If he's the Undersecretary to the Minister, and the Minister would need to write a note to the Unspeakables, Percy would probably dictate or Fudge would dictate, he would write it down, he would know where to take it. What I'm saying is Percy would have the information, because he works at the Ministry. Doesn't mean he knows everything about the Veil, but it seems likely that Percy would be able to access any kind of data or findings on the Veil, that were up-to-date, if he should, perchance, want to find it.

Andrew: Okay, well, Jacob actually took a different approach. He went on Wikipedia, and he found the, not the definition, but the name origin, Micah, of "Percival," and it derives from Old French. "Percival" in Old French, meaning, "pierce the veil."

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: So, that's what he's thinking. That's kind of interesting...

Eric: It's because of... [laughs] I know why. It's because Percy has such a pointy head, that when they throw him through the Veil [laughs] it's going to pierce it. Sorry.

Andrew: Yeah, well. I guess so...

Eric: Because it comes to a point.

Andrew: And then two other points he brought up, was: "That he works at the Ministry and, of course, could potentially have access, and he has to do something to make up with his family."

Kevin: This is true.

Andrew: Okay, that's Crackpot Theory of the Week.

McDonald's Update

Quick McDonalds update; hopefully we got all of our submissions in. They were due by the end of November. It's now Ė what? December 2nd?

Kevin: Yeah.

Micah: Yes, sir.

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: Third. Third.

Andrew: Third Ė December 3rd. Recording early in the week, folks. This is a different type of show for us, for once. But yeah, so I'll be posting the McDonalds Challenge winners. Well, I'll be posting everyone's entries hopefully within the next week or so, and the winner will be receiving a free MuggleCast t-shirt.

Eric: And a book.

Andrew: So look forward to those.

Eric: And a book. And a book.

Andrew: Oh, and a copy of the book. When my sequel comes out, I'll also sign that for you and get that off to you.

[Eric laughs]

Show Close

Andrew: Now, that does conclude MuggleCast, Episode 66.

[Closing music plays]

Andrew: Hope everyone's enjoyed the show. If you would like to contact us, you could always dial 1-218-20-MAGIC in the United States. If you're in the United Kingdom, you can dial 020-8144-0677. If in Australia, you can dial 02-8003-5668. You'd think after how many times now I've announced these, I actually would remember them. No. Still don't remember them. You can also Skype the username "MuggleCast." Leave a voicemail question. I think we've been through enough voicemails today to last us...

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: ...another year. [laughs] At the rate we've been going.

Eric: I think we just caught up for the past 20 episodes we haven't had them on. So...

Andrew: Yeah. And let us know what you thought of doing an all-voicemail show.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Maybe we'll do them more often. Of course, we need the voicemails to supplement the episodes. And if you want to send us something, something, an actual item you can mail it to the MuggleCast PO Box. That's PO Box 223, Moundridge, [stumbles] Kanja Ė K, K, K Ė Kanjas? Kansas, 67107. You can also contact us on the MuggleCast Feedback Form. Just go to Or, if you want to contact us directly, it's our first name at staff dot mugglenet dot com. So, once again, that concludes MuggleCast, Episode 66. I am Andrew Sims.

Kevin: I am Kevin Steck.

Eric: I am Eric Scull.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

Andrew: Bye, bye.

Laura: Bye.

Micah: Bye. [laughs]

[Music concludes]


Andrew: MySpace, MySpace, MySpace, MySpace.

Eric: LiveJournal.

Laura: Oh, my God! MySpace.

Andrew: Don't forget our MySpace.

Micah: Frappr.

Andrew: Become our friends, Frappr, Facebook Ė I'm going to make a song...

[Micah and Laura laugh]

Andrew: That's going to be my next Wizard Rock single. It's going to be promoting all of our outlets Ė our community outlets. [sings] MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Frappr, Last.FM! Fanlisting Forums. MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, Frappr, Last.FM! Fanlisting Forums.

Eric: [joins in] It's the Frappr Map! It's the Frappr Map, it's the Frappr Map...

Andrew: Not bad for a first try.

Eric: ...Rap.

Andrew: I'll have to demo that.

Eric: Frappr Map Rap! Frappr Map Rap!

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I like that. I like that, Eric. I'm signing you on.

Eric: Sweet.

Andrew: Come over to my house and we'll record a new song...

Eric: The Frappr Map Rap. Yeah!

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: When... [laughs] I like it, I like it. The YouTube...

Eric: Uh, sing, The YouTube Cube?

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: The MySpace...

Micah: Place.

Andrew and Eric: Place! Ah!

Andrew: Bye, bye.

Eric: I wonder what the outtakes are going to be.

[Laura and Eric laugh]

Andrew: It's going to be an awesome new single.

Laura: Yeah, me too.

Micah: That's all the news for this December 2nd, 2006... No, today's the 3rd. That's all the news for this December 3rd, 2006 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

Written by: Micah, Adrienne, Amanda, Briana, Eloise, Jessica, Judy, Mandie, Margaret, Martina, Matt, Megan, Sarah, Shannon and Shelly