MuggleCast 73 Transcript (continued)



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: Harry Growing Up


Andrew: Moving along now, we wanted to talk about - We wanted to take a look at some things that J.K. Rowling has said concerning Book 7, and I was thinking about it the other day and I sort of realized that we never really touched on any of it. I mean, we'll reference it every once in a while, but we never actually took some quotes of hers and actually sat here and sort of discussed them in more detail. So, we have a few of them here right now, and we wanted to start off with something that she said back in 1999, actually. So this goes way back, and I think some of the earlier quotes might be more significant than some of the current ones, because that was before she realized how big the series was going to get, and she didn't really see what kind of fan-base was going to be coming with this series. This was said at - actually, this wasn't - this was paraphrased. This is from The National Press Club back in 1999, and I want to give credit here to Accioquote.org. They basically have a huge database of quotes from J.K. Rowling, and everyone else, and they have a nice Book 7 section. And in 1999 she pointed out to the audience that she couldn't tell us if she imagines Harry growing up, because it will ruin the plot of Book 7 for us. Now, we've talked about Harry possibly... We seem to think that Harry is going to make it through, right?

Laura: Yeah.

Kevin: Right, yeah.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Mikey, do you agree with that?

Mikey: Yeah. Oh definitely, Harry's going to live.

Andrew: So, what do you think she meant when she said that she can't imagine Harry growing up because it would ruin the plot of Book 7 for us?

Laura: Well, I think she's just trying to keep us from speculating over whether he lives or dies, essentially.

Kevin: Right, yeah.

Laura: I mean, if she says that, "Yes, Harry would do this when he grew up..."

Kevin: It's confirming he'll live.

Laura: ...then we all assume - Yeah, it's confirming he'll live, and by saying it this way, we can sit here and go around in circles all day long and we won't know the answer.

Andrew: Ah, right. Yes, that is a good point.

[Andrew and Kevin laugh]

Kevin: Yeah. Shot down.

Micah: I think it's just like...

Mikey: She's pretty evasive about stuff.

Micah: Just like the interview she did on that Richard and Judy, where one of them said to her - Well, something about Harry in the future, and she said something along the lines of, "Who said he's going to live?"

Andrew: Uh huh.

Micah: And I think that's just her way of, what Laura said, keeping us all on...

Kevin: On the edge of our seats.

Micah: Exactly.

Andrew: Yeah. Well, she knows exactly what's going to happen when she says stuff like that at this point.



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: The Gleam of Triumph


Andrew: Ummm, another thing I wanted to discuss was the interview that Emerson and Melissa had with J.K. Rowling back in July of 2005. She said:

Melissa asked Jo, "Does the gleam of triumph still have yet to make an appearance?"
And Jo replies, "That's still enormously significant and, let's face it, I haven't told you that much is enormously significant, so you can let your imaginations run free there."
And Emerson responds by saying, "I think everybody realized it was significant when they read it, but we didn't see it materialize in Five or Six." And Jo says, "Well, it still is," in reference to it materializing.
And Emerson says, "We've been kind of waiting for the big revelation." And Jo says, "Absolutely, that's for Seven, that's for Seven."

Have we talked about the gleam of triumph before? I think real little bit.

Laura: A little bit.

Kevin: We touched on it, yeah.

Andrew: Any theories from anyone?

Laura: I don't know. I mean, a lot of people kind of took it to think - to believe that Dumbledore had the gleam of triumph because it would have something to do with making it easier for Harry to defeat Voldemort. But I think if Jo is saying it's going to be enormously significant, I don't know, I kind of feel like there's something more there. Like, something else we're going to find out about it.

Andrew: I don't know, it's just really interesting because, like you said, enormously significant. That, I think... I don't know, it seems just like...

Laura: Some people - and this is a very, very small, small percentage of the fandom - but some people think that Dumbledore is evil and they take this as evidence that he is actually, truly evil, and that he has this gleam of triumph because now Voldemort can touch Harry.

Andrew: Uhhh...

Micah: Uhhh...

Laura: Yeah, I know.

Kevin: I think that's...

Laura: It makes me want to cry.

Kevin: Yeah, but...

Laura: It makes me want to cry when I hear that.

Micah: That's - is it Rachel or Jess? Jess?

[Laura laughs]

Laura: Well, she's one of them.

Kevin: You have to put yourself in J.K. Rowling's place. She wrote Dumbledore as like the father figure and she's not going to make him like that, you know? It's...

Laura: Yeah. Although, admittedly, it would be a very huge plot twist.

Kevin: It would, but I...

Laura: I think my brain would...

Kevin: I think it would sort of be...

Laura: ...spin for weeks after that happened.

Kevin: ...killing a great character, you know?

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: Well, doesn't that make him human, though? I mean, that's what I thought of. You know, if all the Horcruxes are destroyed then he's human, there's nothing stopping him from dying, and I mean really dying. Not just siphoning himself off and going to find something else to latch onto.

Andrew: Ah. So, maybe that's why Dumbledore is suddenly realizing that, "Hey, now he can be killed." I mean, on the other hand, before you said that, Micah, I was thinking that maybe he was just - maybe Harry read him wrong. It wasn't a gleam of triumph. It was more of a absolutely-could-not-believe-what-had-happened. But...

Micah: Or, maybe there's something special about the fact now that Harry's blood is running through Voldemort.

Kevin: Right. And that's what a lot of people have been speculating upon, you know, the fact that there may be an advantage given to Harry because his blood is running through Voldemort's veins.

Mikey: Yeah, like big thing is, what if, you know, now that he has Harry's blood, and the connection's a little bit stronger, love is such an important role, maybe now that he - the connection's so much stronger because of that blood, he'll feel Harry's love more and that will be what causes his demise or something.

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: I don't know. Blood...

Laura: Possibly. But what if it is something...

Mikey: Love....

Laura: ...to do with the fact that - we saw in Goblet of Fire that if you have brother wands they can't fight each other, and I think that maybe Voldemort having Harry's blood is kind of reinforcing that. What if because Voldemort is now - I mean, he's essentially got a piece of Harry in him - what if he can't kill Harry, because, you know, he has his blood running through his veins?

Andrew: Why would - why would that stop him, though?

Laura: I don't know. I mean...

Andrew: Because it's...

Laura: Why can't brother wands fight each other? It's just how it is, I suppose. I don't know.

Andrew: So, Dumbledore could've been excited because he couldn't kill Harry. Harry was...

Laura: Or, at the very least it gives Harry the upper hand.

Andrew: Advantage, yeah.



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: Why Dumbledore Didn't Kill Voldemort


Andrew: Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. I'm glad we finally talked about that in more detail. The next one we wanted to point out is, someone asked Jo:

"Were there any questions that you were surprised nobody has ever asked you?" And she says, "I'm surprised no one has asked me, since Phoenix came out I thought that people would, is why Dumbledore did not kill or try to kill Voldemort in the scene in the Ministry. I know that I'm giving a lot away to people who have not read the book. Although Dumbledore gives a kind of reason to Voldemort it is not the real reason. When I mentioned that question to my husband, I told Neil that I was going to mention it to you. He said it was because Dumbledore knows that there are two more books to come. As you can see we are on the same literary wavelength. [laughter] That is not the answer. Dumbledore knows something slightly more profound than that. If you want to wonder about anything I would advise you to concentrate on those two questions. That might take you a little bit further."

So, have we ever talked about this? I think...

Laura: No.

Kevin: I don't think so, either.

Laura: I don't think so.

Micah: Now, when was this question asked? Do we know? Because if it was before Half-Blood Prince we could say, "Well, now we know because Dumbledore technically couldn't kill Voldemort."

Andrew: Mikey, do you have any ideas? While I look this up.

Micah: I have no clue.

Mikey: Um, well, I'm thinking like - My biggest thing, I went back and actually looked at that. I reread that section.

Andrew: Uh huh.

Mikey: I could tell you my biggest thing kept coming back to the prophecy. You know, he knows he can't kill Voldemort. And, actually, he was constantly worried, more worried about Harry. In that section, if you read it, he's like constantly doing a lot of defensive magic, and then as soon as Voldemort disappears from the fountain water thing, Harry tries to move, but he tells Harry not to move and kind of keeps the statue against Harry. So, I think it's more that he knows he can't defeat him because of the prophecy, and he's more worried about Harry, so he's just protecting his - the Chosen One. But I couldn't tell you.

Andrew: Yeah. This was before Half Blood Prince. This was in August of 2004 at the Edinburgh Book Festival.

Mikey: He's protecting Harry.

Andrew: What you said, Micah. Yeah.



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: Dumbledore's Spell in the Ministry


Andrew: Moving along now, another quote from the Melissa and Emerson interview.

Melissa says to Jo, "Now that Dumbledore is gone, will we ever know the spell that he was trying to cast on Voldemort in the Ministry?"
And Jo says, "Umm..." and then she just goes [clicks tongue]
And then Emerson says, "Let the record show that she made a funny sound with her mouth."

[laughs] Oh, Emerson, you're such a jokester. [laughs]

[Laura and Mikey laugh]

Andrew: And they all have a laugh at that.

Then Jo says, "It's possible. It's possible that you will know that. You will..."
And then she pauses.
"You will know more about Dumbledore. I have to be so careful on this." So, could the spell be crucial? Could Harry be - could Harry have to learn that spell to kill Dumbledore in Book 7?

Mikey: Which spell exactly are they talking about?

Andrew: Well, we don't know. Will we ever know the spell that he was trying to cast on Voldemort in the Ministry? So, I assume it was when they were...

Kevin: When they were dueling, yeah.

Andrew: ...dueling around the fountain.

Kevin: From what I remember, he was trying to cast a spell and he got interrupted by something. The significance it plays, though - I mean, it's sort of hard to say because she said, well, she confirmed in Half Blood Prince that Dumbledore is unable to kill Voldemort. So, the spell he was casting may not be as significant as we think, because the most it could do is just hurt him, you know what I mean?

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: I think what we'll find out is something about Dumbledore's history that may explain the spell, but I don't think the spell is necessarily very significant, you know?

Andrew: Micah, do you have any ideas?

Micah: I agree with Kevin on that. I think when she says, "You'll know more about Dumbledore," that it'll all tie into that in Book 7 as far as if we find out what the curse was, or the spell was, then we do. If not, then... I just think there's more to him that needs to be revealed. I don't know if the spell that was cast is that significant.



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: Favorite Order Member


Andrew: Another quote now from - this was an interview that Jo conducted at Waterstones. Someone asked:

"Which is your favorite member of the Order of the Phoenix?"

And, Micah, did you put this one in?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Jo replies: "I keep killing all my favorite members of the Order of the Phoenix, but there's one member of the Order of the Phoenix that you have not yet met properly, and you will well - you know that they are a member, but you haven't really met them properly yet, and you will meet them in Seven, so I am looking forward to that."

Ah, that is very interesting. So, we know him but we don't... So, I assume...

Laura: We know they're a member of the Order.

Andrew: No, we don't. We don't know they're a member.

Laura: Well, yeah. She said, "You know...

Mikey: No, no...

Laura: ...that they are a member, but...

Andrew: Ohhh.

Laura: ...you haven't really met them properly."

Andrew: So...

Laura: Okay, so which members do we not know very well? [laughs]

Mikey: Aberforth.

Andrew: Hmmm.

Laura: Do we...

Mikey: I'm tossing...

Laura: ...know that he's a member?

Mikey: Yeah. In the picture in Order of the Phoenix that Moody...

Laura: Oh, right.

Mikey: ...hands Harry...

Laura: Yeah.

Mikey: ...he's in there. I just reread that book. So...

Laura: That's probably it, then. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, met him properly - Yeah. Do you guys think Aberforth's going to come to Harry, or Harry's going to go to Aberforth about his brother?

Laura: Possibly. I mean, I don't...

Andrew: That makes sense.

Laura: I don't think Jo would've included him for no reason.

Andrew: Well...

Laura: I mean, there have been a couple of...

Andrew: [laughs] There's been a couple of Mark Evans here and there, but... [laughs]

Laura: ...subtle hints about him all through the books. [laughs] Yeah.

Micah: Yeah. Well I mean, I think that can also tie into the last question that you asked or the last statement that you brought up. When we learn more about him, who else would be better to tell us about him than his own brother?

Andrew: Right. RIght, he could get really personal and go way back with him because who else do we know that has known Dumbledore for so long before Hogwarts and everything else?

Micah: Old-school Albus.

Andrew: Yeah, exactly. [laughs]

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: We want to know what did Dumbledore - what Dumbledore - what Albus was doing in his teenage years, man! Was he...

Mikey: He was causing a raucous.

Andrew: Yeah, I bet.

[Kevin laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, well, we're making progress here. [laughs]

[Mikey laughs]



Rowling's Quotes About Book 7: Release Date of Book 7


Andrew: And the final quote, someone asked Jo:

"When is the seventh book going to come out? Because it took two years for this one..."
Oh, here's another release date one.
"...comes out? Because it took two years for this one to come out."
J.K. Rowling responds, "I'm going to say now, I think it will be at least another two-year wait."
I don't know if she's groaning, or the audience is groaning. Micah? Probably the audience.

Laura: Probably the audience. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. She says:

"Sorry, I think it probably would - I think it probably will be just being - I think it probably will be, just being realistic. My plan is to start writing seriously at the end of the year because I have a very young baby, although I am doing some work on it at the moment."

She did that interview right after the release of Half Blood Prince. So...

Micah: So, November 1st sounds good to me, based on what she said. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. Actually, that is kind of interesting...

Mikey: Yes! [laughs]

Andrew: ...that she said that after Half Blood Prince. Because, really, that's the only thing she said about the release date.

Mikey: Yeah.

Micah: Yep. And so, if she started writing at the end of 2005, at least...

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: ...two years...

Andrew: You know, we're getting tips all the time about release dates. Oh, well of course the big one is - right now is Barnes and Noble or Borders, I can't remember which. They both - or one of them has it listed as 7/7/07 and when people call and ask, "When is it coming out?" they - the person working at Borders or Barnes and Noble say, "Oh, it's coming out July 7th, 2007. It says it right here on my computer! It must be true!" And of course that's not true. That's not an official release date and, honestly, the way all these rumors are spinning right now and from what we've been hearing, it's looking like the end of '07. Summer to the end of '07. What do you guys think?

Laura: It's exciting.

Kevin: Scary, yeah.

Andrew: It is!

Laura: My gosh, I mean, by...

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: ...this time next year...

Andrew: We're going to be like...

Laura: ...it could all be over. [laughs]

Andrew: "Welcome to Week 23 of our... [laughs]

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: ...Book 7 discussion. We're exhausted from this." I think we'll do this again, sometime in the future, talking about some of more of the things that Jo said.



Jo After Potter


Micah: Mhm. Or we'll just have Jo on the show.

Kevin: Yeah, that would be cool. I hope she becomes a little more accessible when she...

Andrew: I doubt it. I doubt it. [laughs]

Kevin: ...at least when... No, I think she will.

Laura: After - after Potter I think she will.

Kevin: After - Yeah, after...

Andrew: What do you think? She's going to be like, "Hey, MuggleCast! Podcasts! Sure, why not!"

Laura: Well, no. No, not that, but...

Kevin: No. No, but - no, I'm saying in the sense of people...

Laura: Nothing...

Kevin: ...actually being able to...

Laura: Yeah.

Kevin: ...talk to her and...

Laura: Yeah, and nothing she ever writes is going to be like Harry Potter.

Kevin: Yeah, it's not necessarily...

Laura: She's even said that herself.

Kevin: ...going to be like the primetime shows and magazines always getting the interviews, you know what I mean?

Andrew: See, you know what the thing is, though, even after she's going to try to move away from Harry Potter with writing new books - like smaller books - she's not going to be able to get away from it with the press and the interviews and everything.

Kevin: Yeah, but that’s - that’s why you have a pen name.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Huh?

Laura: It’s probably...

Andrew: No, I was thinking like...

Laura: Didn’t she say she was going to do that?

Kevin: Yeah.

Andrew: Didn’t she say that jokingly?

Kevin: No, I think she... I...

Andrew: Maybe she’ll just go back to Joanne Rowling.

Laura: I wouldn’t - you know what? I wouldn’t blame her if she did that, because anything that she ever writes under the name J.K. Rowling...

Kevin: Is going to be typecast.

Laura: Yeah. It’s going to be completely compared to Harry, and I wouldn’t blame her if she went with a pen name.

Kevin: As an artist like that, you’re - you’re - you want people to enjoy your reading, or your writing, because of the writing, not because of your name. So...

Andrew: Yeah, but what I was - she’s not going to be able to escape this stuff in interviews, like she’s going to want to promote her new book, and they’re going to spend three minutes doing that, and then the rest is going to be, "So! Book 7, you’re all done with it now. What’s it like?" All that stuff. I just really think she’s never going to get away from it, media-wise.

Micah: Yeah.

Laura: Well, that’s why...

Micah: Well, what’s interesting though, it's kind of a...

Laura: ... she’s got to really wrap up everything in Book 7.

Andrew: She should go goth.

Laura: I mean, she’s really got to...

Andrew: Completely change her look.

Kevin: Oh, yeah! [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Micah: This is an odd comparison, but it’s kind of related to what you’re talking about with where I work. A lot of our owners are former NFL players, and we try and get them on shows to talk about Arena Football, but they end up talking about the NFL instead.

Andrew: Ohhh.

Micah: So, it’s the same thing. You know, what you’re saying: she’s trying to promote something different, but in the end, she’s going to go back to Harry Potter.

Andrew: Right.



Listener Rebuttal: Ravenclaw's Horcrux


Andrew: We have another rebuttal now, Joey, 15, of Massachusetts, concerning Ravenclaw’s Horcrux. Here comes more Horcrux discussion.

"I have just re-read Book 5, and I think I may have discovered the Ravenclaw’s Horcrux. On pg. 99 in the U.K. version, when they are cleaning out glass-fronted cabinets, a number of objects were mentioned, such as some daggers, claws, snakeskins, silver boxes, and an ornate crystal bottle with a large opal set into the stopper, full of what Harry was quite sure was blood. I know it is a somewhat long shot, but couldn’t it be Ravenclaw’s? Also, since there was the rumor that Book 7 could have been called 'Ravenclaw’s Heart', I felt that this might have made it important. Please tell me what you think."

I don’t think the Book 7 title rumor has really anything to do with it, because the copyright - the people who trademarked those names just to screw with us do it, just to throw us off with the real title. But Laura, what were you going to say?

Laura: Well, I just I mean, what he’s talking about is when they were cleaning out the cabinets, where they also found the - the locket that we all think is the actual Horcrux, and I’m just not sure what the likelihood is of there being two Horcruxes in the same cabinet, let alone the same house.

Andrew: Yeah.

Kevin: Yeah.

Micah: Maybe R. A. B. did a little bit more than we think.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: Maybe, but I just feel like - I feel like from a book’s standpoint, that makes it too easy, you know what I’m saying?

Kevin: Yeah, I - I agree. It just seems like it’s too convenient for them to be in two places, you know, or the same place for two objects, you know?

Andrew: Hmmm.

Kevin: And it’s not very...

Mikey: He still has to fight Voldemort!

Kevin: Yeah, but it’s not very... If you’re trying to... It’s not very J.K. Rowling. I - the way she...

Laura: It doesn’t provide for much of a journey.

Kevin: It - that’s what I’m saying, yeah.

Laura: It’s not much of a quest there.

Kevin: I mean, when you think of Harry Potter, especially the seventh book, you expect a lot of action and a lot of moving around from place to place, constant time-dependent movements, and it just seems too convenient that two Horcruxes are in the same place.

Andrew: Hmmm. Yeah.

Mikey: Mhm.

Kevin: Although, by the same token, she can also put two Horcruxes in one place, have Harry get one of them, and then have Harry looking everywhere for the other and then realize, "Oh, my god! It was right in front of me!" That could be...

Andrew: You know, you ever hear of that prank where high school kids will graffiti numbers onto different areas of the school, and they’ll do 1, 2, 3, and then they’ll skip 4, and put 5? So, then the administration or whatever, they’re always looking for number 4, but it doesn’t actually exist. [laughs]

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: I don’t know if you guys ever heard of that, but it’s actually a pretty funny prank. I don’t know - that just reminded me of it. [laughs] So, maybe there aren’t really seven Horcruxes. [makes a silly cry] Wooo! We’ll always be looking for the seventh, and never kill Voldemort.

Kevin: That would be horrible. [laughs]

Laura: Wow!

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: At the end of the book, Harry’s still looking for the Horcrux.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Voldemort - sorry - Voldemort wins. To be environmentally efficient, we cannot possibly print any more pages for this book, so...

Mikey: The end.

Kevin: Good bye.

Laura: I think you just came up with the most depressing ending...

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: ...that we could ever have.

Andrew: And the epilogue is set 50 years later, and Harry’s still searching for the Horcruxes.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: Searching under the Hogwarts castle for the 23rd time. Thank you, Joey, for that e-mail.



Hagrid Interview


Andrew: Ladies and gentleman, we have a very special interview for everyone right now. As I mentioned last week, it took us a lot of work to get this interview, and we are very proud and excited to have it.

[Micah laughs]

Andrew: Ben and I recorded it a little earlier this week with the guest host, so here it is now. All right. I’m joined with Ben and Micah here.

Ben: Hey, guys!

Andrew: How are you guys doing?

Ben: Pretty good.

Andrew: It’s a big day. It’s our big interview.

Ben: You know, some of those other podcasts sort of rip on us sometimes - no...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Like not getting interviews, but...

Andrew: This is our answer to them. I mean this is a big one.

Ben: This is huge.

Andrew: Ben, I really - honestly, I give all the credit to you. You worked on getting this interview with this person and I am very excited.

Ben: I know. I took - I had to pull a few strings.

Andrew: Right.

Ben: So...

Andrew: But, as we always say on the show, you are Ben Schoen, and that’s...

Ben: And I can do anything. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. Without a doubt. So, I think [phone rings] we’re going to call the person right now. [phone rings]

Ben: Oh, geez. [phone rings]

Andrew: Whose phone is that?

Ben: [phone rings] Hold on a sec. I got to take this.

Micah: Don’t you know you’re supposed to turn it off when we’re recording?

Ben: Hello?

Andrew: You know, Micah, I tell him this every time...

Ben: Really?

Andrew: ...and he always forgets.

Ben: [sighs] Do I have to go now? [sighs again] Okay - okay. Whatever. [hangs up and sighs again] My mom’s stuck in Wichita, so I have to go pick her up.

Andrew: Stuck in Wichita? [laughs] What, the snowstorm’s going on?

Ben: Yeah, there’s big snowstorms here, so I have to...

Andrew: Oh, my - Ben! You - this is the only time he can do it.

Ben: I know! I’m sorry! What do you expect me to do? I mean...

Andrew: All right. All right.

Ben: I just have to go.

Andrew: Are you okay with just me and Micah doing it?

Ben: I worked - I worked...

Andrew: I mean, I know you worked for this.

Ben: I worked for this, but [sighs].

Andrew: We’ll still give you the credit.

Ben: Whatever.

Andrew: Well, give me a call in case something happens. Maybe he can redo it later.

Ben: Okay.

Andrew: We’re going to give him a call.

Ben: Okay. I got to go. See you.

Andrew: [sighs] Oh, my god. Should we still do it, Micah?

Micah: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. Ben worked very, very hard on this. So...

Andrew: [laughs] You know what? Honestly, I could care less. This is - I want this to be my time to shine, so I’m going to give him a call here. Wait. [turns the speakerphone on] There we go. [sniffs] Okay. Hold on. Let me - [starts dialing] it’s a long number. He lives in England, actually. Stupid U.K. numbers. [phone beeps] Okay. [phone rings twice]

Ben/Hagrid: Hello?

Andrew: Hagrid?

Ben/Hagrid: Rubeus Hagrid!

Andrew: Hagrid! Rubeus Hagrid, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Ben/Hagrid: Oh, you're welcome. I was just flying my motorcycle.

Andrew: Well, thank you for taking the time out to do this with us today. I mean, this is a big honor. I know our fans have been very excited to see you on the show and we weren't kidding when we said to them that this is our biggest guest to ever appear on a Harry Potter podcast. So, thanks for coming on today.

Ben/Hagrid: You’re welcome!

Andrew: So, Micah and I have a few questions for you. Ben was supposed to be here, I know you've talked to him about coordinating this interview, but he had something to do. So, we just had a couple basic questions for you. We want to know how filming has been going for Order of the Phoenix?

Ben/Hagrid: Ah geez, it's fine I guess. I'm not in it as much as I would like to be, but one thing's for sure.

Andrew: What's that?

Ben/Hagrid: I'm still Keeper of the Keys at Hogwarts. So, I say, over all, filming is great.

Micah: So, Hagrid, what are the hours like on a daily basis?

Ben/Hagrid: Well, I get up at 4 p.m. and eat lunch and then I go film a scene or two with some dragons and then I go back and be Keeper of the Keys.

Andrew: Right, right. Now, what kind of food do they serve there on the set?

Ben/Hagrid: Dairy Queen.

Andrew: Dairy Queen? Hmmm.

Ben/Hagrid: Dairy Bars and ice cream cake.

Andrew: Yeah. Is that all you eat? I mean, or are there any other healthier options for people?

Ben/Hagrid: There's a McDonald's.

Andrew: Oh. Do you eat there? What do you usually get from there?

Ben/Hagrid: Double quarter pounder. Cheese.

Andrew: Uh huh.

Micah: Who do you enjoy working most with on the set?

Ben/Hagrid: Well, actually, some of you may be surprised about this - I work a lot with Michael Gambon; he plays Dumbledore. And, we have a good time together.

Micah: So, what do you think about Michael Gambon? I mean, personally, I think he's terrible as Dumbledore.

Ben/Hagrid: Never! And I mean never insult Albus Dumbledore in front of me!

Andrew: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We didn't - Micah is just speaking from some articles that he's read online. Just please ignore that, sir. So anyway, moving on...

Ben/Hagrid: I should leave this interview right now.

Andrew: Oh, no, no. Please don't. No, please, no. I know a lot of our fans were really excited to have you on. Really, we're sorry about that. What do you think of the new director, David Yates?

Ben/Hagrid: Don't know him.

Andrew: Don't know him? Do you work with him at all or do you just sort of do your own thing on set? You just show up and do a couple lines?

Ben/Hagrid: Well, I call my own shots.

Andrew: Oh, okay. So, being there for, what, it's been seven years now, you really do your own thing?

Ben/Hagrid: Pretty much, yeah.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben/Hagrid: I mean, when you're Keeper of Keys at Hogwarts, you get to call your own shots.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Now, do you live in your hut on set or do you have a home outside of Leavesden?

Ben/Hagrid: What kind of question is that?

Andrew: Well, I mean...

Ben/Hagrid: I couldn't leave Fang. Fang lives in my hut with me. I couldn't leave Fang.

Andrew: Well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe - so you do live on set? All the time?

Ben/Hagrid: Absolutely.

Andrew: Yeah? What's it like there at night?

Ben/Hagrid: Dark.

Andrew: Oh, okay. All right, so, do you ever leave the set or are you always there?

Ben/Hagrid: Well, since there's a Dairy Queen and McDonald's and see I have the key to everything, no reason to leave the set.

Micah: Now this is a little bit of a personal question, but, how's your love life doing?

Ben/Hagrid: Well, I'm not supposed to talk about it, strictly speaking.

Andrew: Yeah, but do you think you could give us a little, exclusive tidbit for the site and the podcast?

Ben/Hagrid: Let's just say things between me and Madame Maxime have heated up a bit.

Andrew: Oh! Well, I'm sure our - all of your loyal fans are going to be very pleased to hear that.

Ben/Hagrid: You aren't the only ones who are pleased!

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: Now, to wrap things up today, we were thinking that maybe you could recite some of your biggest lines in the books and movies. Do you think you could do that for us?

Ben/Hagrid: Oh, I guess, I guess. "Yer great puddin' of a son don' need fatten' anymore, Dursley." "Never try an' get straight answer out of a centaur. Ruddy stargazers. Not interested in anythin' closer'n the moon." "What's comin' will come an' we'll have to meet it when it does." "Meant ter turn him into a pig, but I suppose he was so much like a pig anyway, there wasn't much left ter do." "I'm not blaming yeh, but I've got to tell yeh, I thought you two'd value yer friend more'n broomsticks or rats. Tha's all." "Rubeus Hagrid, Keeper of Keys and Games at Hogwarts."

Andrew: Okay, well, thank you Rubeus for joining us today here on the show. It was a pleasure having you...

Ben/Hagrid: No more questions?

Andrew: I don't know. I think that's pretty much it. I mean, we covered all the bases here.

Ben/Hagrid: Well, thank you. Tell Ben he's my favorite MuggleCaster.

Andrew: Oh, well, I will. It's - I'm sure he will be very excited to hear that. Is there - real quick, are there any other projects you're working on? Or are you just dedicated to Harry Potter right now?

Ben/Hagrid: Strictly speaking, I have some things on the underground with the dragon trading.

Andrew: Oh. Okay, so you probably don't want to talk about that.

Ben/Hagrid: Yeah, the big bucks, you know?

Andrew: Okay. Well, thank you once again. What's your name and title?

Ben/Hagrid: Rubeus Hagrid! Keeper of Games and Keys at Hogwarts.

Andrew: [laughs] Okay, thank you, Hagrid, for joining us today.

There you go, there was our big interview. It was Hagrid! We got Hagrid! What do you guess think?

Kevin: Awesome. That's great.

Micah: Amazing.

Andrew: You like it?

Laura: It was a huge achievement.

Andrew: Guys, it's really him! No pun intended, Laura.

Mikey: I'm in awe, honestly.

Andrew: Mikey, I got his address and phone number now, so if you want an autograph, I can get him to send one to you.

Mikey: Wow! Really?

Andrew: Yeah.

Mikey: Oh, definitely.

Andrew: We're good friends now, yeah. All right, cool. Yeah.

Mikey: I love Hagrid. Who couldn't love him?

Andrew: Yeah, all right. So, once again, big thank you to Rubeus Hagrid for coming on the show. I know he's a busy guy right now. But, unfortunately he wouldn't spill what was going to happen in Book 7 though. That was a bit of a bummer, but, we'll just have to wait and see.

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