"Don't Fight Him, Harry"

Ben: Something that I noticed, there's a - I typed out a few of my favorite lines in here.

Andrew: Oh, good prep work, Ben.

Ben: In the international trailer when Dumbledore says, "Don't fight him, Harry, you can't win." To me that doesn't seem like something Dumbledore would say.

Andrew: Yeah. We've been getting a lot of feedback about that, actually.

Laura: I think he was talking about...

Ben: But that just...

Laura: ...the Occulmency, though.

Andrew: Ooh.

Laura: I think he was kind of telling Harry not to try to invade Voldemort's mind, just to focus on keeping Voldemort out of his.

Andrew: Ooh.

Laura: That's what I took it as.

Andrew: Because everyone seemed to take that to be Dumbledore talking about Voldemort. That might make sense.

Harry Dueling With Voldemort

Ben: See, at the end of the trailer a lot of people think that when Harry shouts Expelliarmus and then Voldemort is shown doing something right after that - At first I thought, "Well, what's Harry doing dueling Voldemort again?" Or did he duel Voldemort?

Laura: No, he didn't.

Ben: Sort of. Well, he just dived out of the way in Order of the Phoenix, right?

Laura: Yeah, pretty much. Dumbledore dueled him.

Ben: And so - Yeah. And so, I was just sort of wondering, "Well, what was going on there?" So, I think it's just two different clips, they wouldn't put a new dueling scene in. [laughs]

Laura: Well, remember Harry dueled with Bellatrix. He tried to go after her.

Andrew: Yeah, and in this shot Sirius is blocking Harry, so that's probably that scene. I hope they're not trying to create the perception that Dumbledore and Harry are dueling because that would be kind of...

Laura: Yeah. One thing - I'm pretty sure that it was in the domestic trailer where Dumbledore and Voldemort were dueling, and they were having a Priori Incantatem moment. Did you guys notice that?

Andrew: Yeah, you know what...

Laura: Their wands were connected.

Andrew: Yeah. Well - Hold on, wait. Let's get to that in a second because...

Laura: Okay.

Andrew: I just - That end of that trailer was so good.

Laura: I know.

Andrew: But...

"You Will Lose Everything"

Ben: Okay, at the end of the international trailer when Voldemort...

Andrew: Yeah, let's talk about the international...

Ben: When Voldemort says, "You will lose everything," that sent chills down my spine, I was...

Andrew: I was so happy that made the trailer because it looked so corny on the poster.

Laura: It looked really lame.

Andrew: It was just said, straight up, "You will lose everything," and I'm like, "That's stupid, what - " You know.

Ben: I was just wondering who said it, who says, "You will lose everything"? That was the thing for me.

Andrew: Well, I thought it was Voldemort because Voldemort's right there on the cover, but - or on the poster - but in the trailer it sounds so much better because there’s that long pause "You will lose" - [whispering] - "everything." Bah bah bah!

Eric: Well, Ralph Fiennes is great!

Andrew: He is great.

Laura: He is an awesome actor.

Ben: The actors in these movies are incredible. They do every role justice in my mind, with the exception of Gambon/Dumbledore from time to time. I think that every role is done justice. I mean, there is nothing that I am extremely displeased with in these films.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Feel free to disagree.

Andrew: In these films or in the trailers - in this Order of the Phoenix? What are you talking about?

Ben: In the films, in general, I just...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: The acting is just so wonderful.

Andrew: Yeah.

"He's Not Back"

Andrew: Oh, another thing I wasn’t happy about though is when Dumbledore is there on trial and Fudge says, let me play it - "He’s not," "he’s not" - What does he say?

Laura: "He’s not back"?

Andrew: "He’s not back." He says it like he’s losing his voice or something. I hate that voice, because that’s not how he sounds in Prisoner of Azkaban.

Ben: Oh! Oh, I take that back. I was extremely disappointed...

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: ...with Barty Crouch, Senior. Okay. Ugh. [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, that...

Ben: [in a high voice] "Harry Potter, you..." [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah, yeah.

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: But, just - Fudge - his voice, was he - did he lose his voice that day, because that sounds terrible.

Laura: No, it sounded to me like he was - I don’t want to say whispering, but kind of trying to shush Dumbledore, in a way.

Andrew: Like he’s afraid.

Laura: By the tone of his voice.

Andrew: Oh, oh.

Ben: Has anyone else seen Robert Hardy, the actor who plays Fudge, act a lot before or...?

Andrew: No.

Ben: He really isn’t that much in the movie. You don’t really hear him speak that much so maybe we just haven’t seen him talk enough until now.

Andrew: Yeah. I’m looking at his IMDB just for kicks. He hasn’t really starred in any big movies.

Eric: Well, there was a...

Andrew: Lassie. [laughs]

Eric: Well, for British actors - British actors you can never really tell what movies they do, how popular they’ll be but, you know, unless they’re premiered in America, which you know everyone’s kind of doing. But no, he had a big scene in Chamber of Secrets. Remember when Lucius Malfoy went with Cornelius to Hagrid’s hut and tried to...

Laura: Was that the same guy?

Eric: Yeah.

Ben: It was. It was.

Eric: It was the same guy, but that’s...

Laura: He looked different to me.

Eric: That’s why you asked that, Laura.

Laura: So, I just...

Eric: He looked different, he looked completely different. And in Prisoner of Azkaban he was pretty much the same, you know, "Oh, Harry, we don’t send people to Azkaban just for blowing up their aunts." [laughs]

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: But, then Tom was so different, so, that was really messed up.

Imelda Staunton And Umbridge

Andrew: Anything else to bring up about this international trailer?

Laura: Well, while we were still talking about the characters, I just wanted to bring up Imelda Staunton as Umbridge.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Oh, she is awesome.

Laura: She just looks so good. She really looks brilliant. And I’m so excited, like…

Andrew: She does…

Laura: You know, whenever she did that kind of squeaky laugh - I can’t even imitate it, but when she did it, it annoyed me so much.

Andrew: You know what - and I...

Laura: I wanted to hit the wall. [laughs]

Andrew: I was thinking, I extracted that clip of her laugh and I thought we could start playing it on the show every time we said something funny, but then it just got so annoying after I played it for like the tenth time.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: And it sounded so fake after you hear it so many times. But I was thinking about this, I’m a little afraid that there’s almost too much focus on Umbridge, like they really center around her in this trailer. Like she’s in almost every shot just her being herself, and I almost feel like there might be too much of Umbridge.

Laura: Well...

Eric: Well, the Ministry...

Laura: ...I don’t think so.

Eric: ...is imposing.

Andrew: She plays a big role, but I just really want to come out of the movie hating her, and if we do, then I think...

Eric: Oh yeah, well, look at the...

Andrew: ...it’s a job well done.

Eric: Look at the international trailer, right after Hagrid says something about the war coming full-scale uprising and then there’s like...

Andrew: Yeah, yeah.

Eric: ...ten centaurs who are like running through the woods who burst out of this, like - in between two trees - like, if that’s...

Andrew: You're willing to see the movie?

Eric: ...the scene where Umbridge gets attacked by the centaurs, I’m willing to see it.

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: Mhm.

Eric: Yeah, I’m going to run to see the movie because that’s just going to be so good.

Filch Hammering The Decrees

Eric: But Laura was talking about hitting the wall, too. The international trailer is punctuated with the hammer and the nail.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: On the wall, nailing up Umbridge’s...

Andrew: I thought that was too much.

Eric: ...educational decrees, so...

Laura: Yeah. Really?

Eric: I thought it was cool.

Laura: I thought it was kind of cool the way they had those set up.

Ben: I thought it was cool, though.

Andrew: No, no. I love how they have them set up. I don't like how it kept cutting back to Fudge nailing in the different - I don't know.

Eric: Well, not - Filch? You said Fudge.

Andrew: Oh, I meant Filch.

Cho's Change

Andrew: But have we talked on the show at all about the change in the movie where Cho rats out Harry?

Laura: Yes. Yeah, we did.

Andrew: Because the trailer gives that away, so I thought it's fair game now.

Laura: Yeah.

The Ministry Of Magic

Andrew: Also a big fan of the scene where they're running through the Hall of Prophecies. I thought that looks really cool.

Laura: Oh, my gosh.

Andrew: Completely digital.

Laura: It looks amazing.

Andrew: Laura, what did you think of the Ministry of Magic?

Laura: I don't know. I think the Ministry - I think the whole thing looks really good just from what we've seen of it in the trailers.

Eric: Oh, my gosh. Guys, I just uncovered the scene where Remus is holding Harry back from the veil. It's towards the very end of the international trailer right after the wall of Educational Decrees blows up, but then the fiery dragon is coming through it. There's a short scene where Harry's just screaming and you can see Remus holding him back. I really like that. The way that it looks - it's just - because you can tell Sirius has just died.

Dementors

Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. Let's move on to the domestic trailer which came out a mere, what, three days later?

Laura: Yeah, one of the first things I noticed were the Dementors. And they look really different, but I like them.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: They look really, really good. This was the one that I basically sat there and went through frame-by-frame just to look at everything, and I just love the way the dementors look. They look really, really good.

Dumbledore And Voldemort's Duel

Andrew: Yeah. The ends, which you wanted to talk about earlier - the shot of Dumbledore and Voldemort dueling.

Laura: Oh, Dumbledore and Voldemort.

Andrew: It's like, I can't even - it's really - [sighs].

Laura: Yeah, it looks so good. But, my only problem with it is it looks like they have Priori Incantatem going on.

Andrew: I need to find it.

Laura: It really does. And at first I thought it might've been Harry, but then I looked at it and the robes looked like Dumbledore's.

Andrew: Oh, it's 1:42.

Laura: Ah, I don't even have it up right now. It's towards the end.

Andrew: Yeah, that's definitely not Harry. Hm. Yeah, because the colors are different in the spells, and they're clashing; Voldemort's is green and Dumbledore's is red. That scene is going to be so amazing, though.

Falling Into The Department Of Mysteries?

Laura: Yeah, another thing that I wanted to bring up: What was with that - did you notice that one - it was really short, where the kids - they were falling... Andrew and

Laura: And then they stopped.

Laura: Yeah, what was that?

Andrew: Was it bouncing?

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Laura: I was trying to think of what happened in the book that would even influence that.

Andrew: Oh, they must be coming into the Department of Mysteries because they're all there.

Laura: But they didn't fall into the Department of Mysteries.

Andrew: I know, but...

Eric: It reminded me of Hook, when Robin Williams's character just begins to gain flight after falling down the old tree house shaft and then bursts out in tights and everything.

Andrew: Yeah, but this is the Department of Mysteries. Look around it.

Laura: Well, it's got to be. They're all there.

Eric: Is it? Because all you see is...

Andrew: They're all there. Look at the brick.

Eric: The question is who's casting it.

Andrew: And then, one of the pictures that was released a month ago by Newsweek, there's a picture with this set, with those green bricks, and you know, that kind of set, and they said it was in the Department of Mysteries.

Eric: Oh, wait. Actually, when - I thought originally that it was when they fall and somebody's holding out an arm with a wand, but actually, it's two feet.

Andrew: Yeah.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: So, somebody else is in front of them? What is going on?

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: That makes very little...

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: I also see Umbridge casting a spell just before that.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: I don't know, guys. I can't find the whole Dumbledore/Priori Incantatem thing.

Andrew: I also - well, that's at 1:42, I think.

Privet Drive

Andrew: I like the shots where Harry and Dudley back at Privet Drive, right after Dudley gets attacked the Dementor, Harry casts a spell, and the way he casts it, it's like he's rolling a bowling ball, sort of. I'm going frame-by-frame.

Laura: Yeah. [laughs]

Andrew: It's like an underhand pitch almost, it's not the normal overhand thing.

Ben: Yeah, his stroke - his wand stroke.

Andrew: But that's a really cool shot.

Laura: The whole set of Privet Drive and the surrounding neighborhood is completely different.

Andrew: Yeah, they're in a tunnel. They weren't in a tunnel in...

Laura: It almost looks like they're in a city.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Inside that tunnel.

Ben: Yeah, because in Prisoner of Azkaban, it was fairly open, you know?

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: Hmmm.

Andrew: Yeah.

Harry And Cho

Ben: Something I liked about the trailer - Ben Schoen, always a sucker for romance.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: When Cho says, "You're a really good teacher, Harry," and then they kiss. That's just so - it was heartwarming, to say the least.

Andrew: What I did like about that was right afterwards the transition from that stupid love scene to the dark serious stuff because the music suddenly changes.

Laura: To all the good stuff, yeah.

Ben: No...

Andrew: Exactly.

Ben: I thought that was a really cool line, though. "You're a really good teacher, Harry."

Andrew: I guess.

Ben: Yeah.

Laura: And then she had to drop the kid because they had to have another one of those corny moments...

[Andrew laughs]

Laura: ...like we were talking about.

Ben: Or when Sirius said, "It's your turn, Harry." I really like that too.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, that was a good one.

Eric: Oh, wow. I'm just...

High-Definition Trailer

Andrew: But there was - by the way - everyone should download the 1080p version. It's beautiful. You can see every last thing.

Ben: What's a 1080p?

Andrew: It's hi-def. It's like a 150 megabyte trailer, it's - yeah, the quality's awesome.

Laura: My computer couldn't handle that one.

Andrew: Yeah, it plays a little slow.

Eric: Where do we get this from? Guys?

Andrew: You - links are on MuggleNet, I can't remember exactly. Well, let's just run through shots that we think are really good. I mean, I loved the one where Harry is in a really close isle of prophecies and he's running by himself. I'm a sucker, Ben, for shots that are shaky-camera shots to illustrate the action in the movement of the scene.

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