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Show Intro

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Andrew: Today's MuggleCast is also brought to you by Borders. It won't be long before the much-anticipated release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Do you have your mind made up about where Severus Snape's loyalties lie? Do you think he'll betray Harry and his friends, or will he help them to triumph over He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named? Find out more about this complex character in the hot new book The Great Snape Debate available only at Borders. Remember to reserve Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows at Borders and save 40 percent. [Intro music begins to play]

Andrew: Because we have no limits and no lives, this is Mugglecast Episode 91 for May 19th, 2007.

[Intro music continues to play]

Andrew: Hey... [holds out the word for a ridiculously long time]

Eric: Yeah. [holds out the word]

Andrew: ...everybody I'm back. Ben is back, too. Laura is...

Ben: I was here.

Andrew: Oh. Sorry.

Ben: I guess technically I still would be back, though. I'm back again. Back again this week.

Andrew: No, you would be back. The Ben is back, as one of the shows is called.

Eric: [sings] Ben is back.

Andrew: Laura's back though.

Laura: Finally.

Andrew: Laura, a lot of people missed you.

Laura: Awww, well that's good to know.

Ben: How are you feeling, Laura?

Laura: A lot better. Thank you for asking, I appreciate it.

Andrew: Oh, I don't get it. Why would anyone get the idea that Laura was sick?

Ben: I don't know. She was gone.

Eric: By subscribing to our Pickle Pack.

Andrew: Correct, Eric.

Laura: Oh, yep.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Pay $30.00 dollars to see me sick.

Eric: Well the correct answer, Andrew, is - yeah.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: [in goofy voice] That's why I paid. We have a good show for everyone. We have a lot to go over this week. Just yesterday, we didn't have the show planned at all, but now we have a jam packed schedule.

Ben: [laughs] Just yesterday. We're here - yeah.

Andrew: No joke. That's the funny thing.

Ben: You wouldn't ever believe it.

Andrew: Yeah, you will not be able to tell after we're through with you. I'm Andrew Sims.

Ben: I'm Ben Schoen.

Eric: I'm Eric Scull.

Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.

Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.

[Intro music continues to play]

Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is in the Mugglecast news center with the past week's top Harry Potter news stories. Hey, Micah.


Micah: All right, thanks, Andrew.

J.K. Rowling updated her website with a new diary entry which reinforces a recent editorial made on Leaky about spoiling Deathly Hallows for the fans. We also would like to stress that MuggleNet will not reveal any spoilers to fans prior to the release of Deathly Hallows. Just like you, we don't want it ruined. We will also take the necessary steps after the book is released to ensure that you are not spoiled if you have yet to read the book.

Warner Brothers has officially confirmed their plans for the Order of the Phoenix premiere on July 8th in Los Angeles, California. From the press release:

Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson will be in attendance. The screening will begin at 5:00 p.m. at Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood.

Both the official UK Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix site and have been updated with news design for the upcoming film, so be sure to check those out.

Speaking of the fifth film, a new clip will air on the Ellen DeGeneres Show this Monday, May 21, and this past week we caught new versions of the trailer during both the finale of Survivor: Fiji and Supernatural. You can check out all of the videos and get the latest Order of the Phoenix news on

The June/July issue of Teen Vogue magazine has a new spread featuring Potter actors Dan Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint. Scans from the entire article can be viewed here in our galleries, and each of the three actors contributed interviews.

Finally, coinciding with their 25th anniversary, UK bookstore Waterstone's has named Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone the best book in the past 25 years.

That's all the news for this May 19th, 2007 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.

News Discussion

Andrew: All right, thank you Micah.

Ben: Actually, I want to do a little bit of news discussing this week. Something that I thought was pretty cool was the Waterstone's thing, because aren't they the bookstore in London?

Andrew: Pretty much.

Ben: Aren't they the bookstore over there? Is that right, or...

Andrew: Yeah, they're - Waterstone's is like the...

Ben: Barnes and Noble?

Andrew: It's like the Border's. or the Barnes and Noble, yeah.

Ben: That's awesome. And they named, as Micah said, Philosopher's Stone the best book in the past 25 years.

Andrew: That's a really bold statement.

Ben: Yeah.

Eric: Best book.

Ben: They don't leave any - yeah,there's no grey area there. Best. I mean...

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: is the best, so I thought that was pretty cool.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Hey guys, that's like us at the Podcast Awards. Oh, we were People's Choice.

Ben: Oh yeah. [laughs]

Eric: Sorry.

Andrew: Actually, reading this now, it's the top 25 books of the past 25 years voted for by you. So.

Eric: Oh.

Andrew: This wasn't completely...

Laura: Oh.

Ben: It wasn't me, it was you. It was you who did it.

[Everyone laughs]

Andrew: It's probably based off of, like, total sales and stuff. I guess. So, it's still pretty big. Rounding out the top 5: The Time Travelers Wife, Northern Lights (His Dark Materials). One of those Philip Pullman novels), Bird Song...

Eric: Oh.

Andrew: ...and the DaVinci Code. So...

Eric: Hmmm.

Andrew: Interesting.

Eric: DaVinci Code is a good book, but I wouldn't consider it one of the Top, you know 5...

Laura: No, me neither.

Eric: Of the best... It's not very well...

Micah: Eric, it was voted on by you, so...

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, so it's your fault.

Ben: Oh, yeah. I don't know why you did that.

Eric: There's room for - yeah.

Andrew: Actually, It's kind of strange that one of the novels in the His Dark Materials series was No. 3.

Ben: That is kind of strange because that- to me, it doesn't carry the same clout that Harry Potter does.

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: Right.

Laura: No, it really doesn't.

Eric: Or any book. I mean, there are a lot of good books in there, like Steven King and also - I mean, what was it...

Ben: Does anything really compare to this, though? In all honesty? Do you really think you can compare it too Harry Potter? Do you know what I mean?

Andrew: No, no. I don't think so.

Laura: No, I don't think so.

Micah: No.

Andrew: I'm looking at the details of this Philip Pullman book and it was released in March of this year. So... [laughs] Okay, maybe not the most accurate list they can put together.

Eric: You J.R.R. Tolkien has a new book out.

Andrew: Oh, really?

Eric: And he's been dead for a couple of decades.

Andrew: Oh, a Life of Pi is in this list. I'm a Life of Pi fan.

Eric: What happened is his son, naturally, edits, or illustrates, or co-writes the books, but it was actually like J.R.R.'s ideas in half-written books, is my impression? So, it's his new book that we got in at Borders where I work: The Children of Hurian. Hurian, as in H-U-R-I-A-N. So, it's really cool because we are selling this J.R.R. Tolkien book. People come in asking for the new J.R.R. book and we are like you know, "Wow."

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: But it's cool.

Andrew: Eric thinks...

Ben: Eric, since you work there, I was going to ask do you ever have people come in and ask, 'do you have the new Harry Potter book?' Really niave people who don't know that it's not out yet?[laughs] Do you know what I mean?

Eric: It's really interesting. Yeah, I know what you mean, and it's really interesting. We have some people that will do that, but we have big signs by the entrances that say 'Pre-order, release July 21st'. So, unless they don't read then the door pretty much stops them.

Andrew: Are you guys making preparations already for the book, or have you heard any 'talk' about all this stuff we're going to do.

Eric: Well, we do have a few really cool ideas. I'll be, of course, wearing my robes. You know how that goes does at all these cool events.

Andrew: Yeah.

Book Security

Eric: No, but what you guys don't realize is that bookstores are actually taking a very, very, very larger than ever kind of - there's, like, so much security on these books.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Like, even more than was before. There is absolutely, like, major, major security that Warner Brothers has obviously binding every single bookstore...

Andrew: Or Scolastic...

Eric: That is selling the book.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Or Scolastic. Sorry, did I say Warner Brothers?

Andrew: Yeah. Yes, you did.

Eric: I give them more credit, then they have, but no, it's - you can't actually, we can't actually put the books, I think on the floor until, like three hours before we sell the books? Like wecan't actually shelf them, or anything. They have to be in the back room, locked in a safe with a tarp that is fireproof and flame retardant and all sorts of stuff.

Andrew: [laughs] No.

Laura: Oh my god.

Andrew: Fire retardant?

Laura: YOu got to be kidding me? [laughs]

Eric: Yeah, I'm dead serious. It's actually - they supply the flame retardant blanket, but we actually have to... Yeah, so it's pretty intense. So, yeah, we have cool plans going on, but uhhh...

Micah: Isn't that a little a bit overboard? I mean, I...

Laura: Yeah, that's what I was thinking...

Micah: I remember when the news first came out about how the books were supposed to be delivered and how Scolastic is keeping them at these secret areas around the country.

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: And when they get to the stores, there only going to get there, something like the day before and there locked down in these padlocks. And nobody can even open them until the hour before...

Ben: [chuckles] Yeah.

Micah: ...the book is suppose to come out.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah. No, no. It's true. But it's because they don't want it spoiled. I mean, this is like...

Micah: It's a book, though! I don't know... It seems a little intense to me.

Andrew: You know what?

Eric: Hey, hey, hey! Are you saying it's just a book?!

Andrew: Hold on a second. Hold on.

Eric: Just a book?!

Andrew: Micah's got a good point, and I remember with Half-Blood Prince I was talking with my dad about this right before it came out and he's like 'Why is there so much 'I think Jo's just trying to, you know, create all this hype so she can earn some extra money.' And I mean, that's not necessarily true, however, Micah's right.

Ben: It was your dad that said that.

Andrew: Yeah, because he was kept seeing the report on T.V. Well, you know, Micah's right. There is a lot of security for this book and this doesn't happen with any book. However, this is the final book, and this sort of is a good transition into the spoilers thing that Jo talked about on her website earlier this week.

Micah: Can I just say, so I don't get a lot of e-mails. I know I said that it's just a book, but I kind of meant that in a - I don't know. I didn't mean it... I know it's the last and final book, but it's still a book.

Laura: No...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: I know what you mean.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Like, I remember...

Micah: Why not just have the delivery trucks be surrounded by a motorcade as it comes to the store, you know?

Laura: Mhm.

Micah: You know, I just think that it's a little bit overboard for, you know, a book.

Eric: Well Micah, they don't have the motorcade because then that's petrol prices and the warin Iraq.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Those are going up.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: All because of the war in Iraq. So actually the security measures are because of the war in Iraq.

Andrew: Well you know what, though?

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: It's probably because, Micah, there already is so much hype about the books that they know people are going to try to get them. So even if they lowered their security, people would just try to get the books and then release the information online. You know what I'm saying?

Micah: It's going to happen anyway.

Andrew: Well yeah, it's bound to happen anyway...

[Ben and Eric laugh]

Andrew: But, you know, this way...

Eric: Still, but it...

Laura: You know, they've always had some of weird restrictions on the books around release time. Like, whenever I went to Baltimore for Half Blood Prince, they wouldn't let us take pictures of the boxes. Like, they had all the boxes up by the window at the front of the store.

Ben: Yeah, you told me that. That is so weird.

Eric: Well, Laura...

Laura: And they were like, "You can't take pictures!" And we did anyway. And then they put a tarp over it. [laughs]

Eric: Yeah, yeah. Well actually Laura, I know why that is too. And this is just a rumor. All these things that I'm disclosing are just ideas that I've gotten. I haven't actually been privy to any special information. But what I've heard is, seriously, they will stop you from taking pictures. Because what they don't want to happen is if Scholastic catches any bookstores doing any of the things that violate their strict code of conduct - we're talking the insane rules that we just kind of laid out there. If they violate that, Scholastic will actually - and this is just an idea, just a rumor I have. That they'll actually pull all of the - they'll stop further Scholastic books from coming to that bookstore. So, the store itself can actually not sell anything from Scholastic.

Ben: Yeah, that does sounds right.

Laura: That's crazy.

Ben: There's an embargo. An embargo. Because I remember with The Order of the Phoenix, there was a store in New York City. A health food store that order three copies of the book to sell. Okay? They ordered just three copies of the book to sell and they got them in about a week beforehand and they just threw them up on the shelf. And then, [laughs] they don't get Harry Potter anymore because of that.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: Even though it's a health food store. Don't know why.

Laura: That happened with a Walmart store for Goblet of Fire too.

Eric: Yes. So, I guess it is true. But, I mean, that's what I heard. It sounds really crazy. But for a bookstore to actually not be able to get those books in - like, they lose money, it'll go out of business. That's a serious threat for a bookstore. So, it's fun to get yelled at by people for taking pictures of your, you know, your Harry Potter book, but seriously.

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: I have open here a - Scholastic has a little webpage on their website with all the details for booksellers. And they actually have online their On Sale Date policies. And I'm reading one of them and it says that, "Restricted titles, blah-blah-blah blah-blah-blah, you must ensure that restricted titles are kept secure and not placed on any selling floor and/or in any display areas and are not sold or otherwise distributed. All resellers must ensure that their account/retail locations are aware of and abide by the on sale date. Any retail location that sells, displays or otherwise distributes a restricted title prior to its on sale date for the first time will be required immediately to take the restricted title off sale until the on sale date." Which isn't too bad. And they'll also be placed on a 12-month watch list. And then the second time, they will still be on the watch list and they will not be shipped any restricted titles until the actual on sale date. For the duration of the 12-month period.

Eric: I'm sure it's actually more scary than that.

Andrew: It is. Because it goes into, you're liable for any lawyer costs and all that stuff.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: So, you know, they're very serious about this.

Ben: Yeah, I wouldn't... [laughs]

Andrew: [laughs] But then again, it is the last Harry Potter book. So... [laughs]

Ben: Well how tempting would it be? I mean, would any of you mind spending 15 years in prison for breaking the embargo...

Andrew laughs

Ben: ...or whatever it is....

Eric: Well...

Ben: ...for stealing the book?

Andrew: Depends on how much money I make by releasing the book early.

Eric: Because there aren't any...

Ben: Call Vegas. [laughs]

Eric: Well, there aren't anymore Harry Potter books coming out. So I can't really read them in prison. I suppose maybe if you read a word a day...

[Laura laughs]

Eric: ...for the rest of the 15 years.

Andrew: There you go.

Jo's Update on Spoilers

Eric: You could read Book 7 and have it, like, spread out. But I'm not even going to entertain that idea any longer. Micah, what did JKR say?

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: What do mean, what did she say?

Andrew: On the website. On the website, she made an update.

Eric: On her website, what did she say about this and about spoilers? Because you got your wish again, didn't you?

Micah: Well, I did get a little bit of some of a update, I guess, from her.

Eric: Oh, don't downplay it. You downplayed it two weeks in a row.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: No, no, I'm not. Okay, look, I'm not downplaying this.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: I won't downplay it, all right? Geez, guys. No, she made an update on her site. She addressed the whole spoiler policy issue. And I know that we at MuggleNet also do a pretty good job about warning people, as far as Book 7 is going to be concerned. We did it with Half Blood Prince. We even did it on MuggleCast. I know our early episodes, we had some spoiler warnings in there.

Andrew: Yeah.

Micah: To ensure that people did not listen to it if they hadn't read the book.

Andrew: Yeah. And we'll do it again with Deathly Hallows. I mean, you know, we are going to let people know ahead of time. We've been getting e-mails already, [whiney voice] "What are you guys doing? Don't spoil us!" And, granted, we did spoil a lot of people...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: ...back on our April 1st show. That was a mistake. Forgot to add in a little spoiler warning.

[Ben laughs]

Eric: We're reformed spoiler-holics.

Laura: We won't do it again.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: We promise.

Andrew: Harry dies in Book 7. But, basically...

[Ben, Eric, and Micah laugh]

Laura: [gasps] Andrew!

Andrew: We will warn people ahead of time...

[Ben laughs]

Andrew: Of, you know, if we - We're not going to talk about spoilers on this show. [laughs]

Ben: Yeah. That's not going to happen.

Andrew: Yeah, we're going to try to avoid that.

Ben: Well, we will. But if we do, there will be fair warning, so don't worry about it.

Andrew: If we talk about them, it's out of anger, before the book comes out. Because someone will have spoiled it for us.

Ben: Oh, before the book comes out, you don't have to worry about spoilers.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: But if, post-book...

Andrew: Yeah. I'll start my, "and don't worry...and yes, there are spoilers." [laughs]

[Laura laughs]

Eric: Well, we are a discussion podcast. I mean, I think...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: What do you think? Do you think we're actually going to take a break? Like the week after the book is released...

Andrew: Nooo.

Eric: Just so we can read it, and then formulate out thoughts for, maybe an episode or two after that?

Andrew: I doubt it.

Laura: It's not going to take us a week to read the book.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: Oh, it took me a week to read.

Andrew: It takes me about a month.

Laura: We're going to have that thing wiped out in less than...

Ben: Well, the thing is...

Laura: ...24 hours.

Ben: A question for you guys: Do you think it's better - okay it's like saying, it's the equivalent of, you get a carton of ice cream, okay? Do you eat it all the first night, you just devour it, and then once it's gone, it's gone? Or do you spread it out over...

Andrew: Depends on what flavor.

Ben: ...a few weeks, over a week?

Eric: And depends on how hungry I am.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Well...

Ben: So it's going to be dependent on how hungry you are for Harry Potter?

Andrew: Which, the answer is very hungry. Everyone will...

Ben: Yeah, I guess so.

Eric: Those are really capitalist answers.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: How hungry are you for Harry?

Eric: Depends on what flavor, depends on how hungry...

[Laura laughs]

Eric: I love that.

Micah: I think based on what we do, it's going to be hard not to talk to each other and, you know, be careful about what we say.

Laura: The thing is, I'm going to have to be in a separate room by myself because I'm that paranoid.

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: I really am.

Ben: Actually, I run MuggleNet's Feedback Form, and so I'll probably get it spoiled for me first.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: Thank you, whoever e-mails in.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: And Laura, I plan on telling you first thing, so...

[Andrew and Micah laugh]

Ben: don't have to worry about locking yourself in a room either.

Eric: You can't escape Ben's...

Laura: Yeah, if you...

Ben: What?

Eric: You can't escape the wrath of Ben Schoen.

Andrew: So that was Jo's update.

Micah: It was a good update.

Andrew: It was good. Micah, I don't think we're going to be getting any real facts or anything new like in the 'Rumours' section, or in the 'About the Books' section until the book comes out.

Micah: Oh, I don't know about that.

Eric: Don't stir him up.

Micah: I think we're, I think we're leaning towards the door opening very, very soon.

Andrew: [laughs] What else is...

Ben: Oh, geez.

Andrew: ...there big to reveal? Chapter titles? Maybe chapter titles.

Micah: Oh, you never know.

Andrew: Or a quote from the book.

Micah: You never know. You don't know what's going on in her mind. I mean, hey, she could...

Laura: Only Micah knows that, right?

Micah: She could decide, "May is the month for me to go out there and update my site a couple times."

Andrew: Well, she has.

Ben: It's true.

Micah: Exactly, so, I mean, little things are starting to change around the site. I wouldn't be surprised, guys.

Andrew: I guess.

Micah: I'm telling you.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Well, just remember, Micah. Keep this philosophy at heart: when Jo closes a door, she opens a window.

Laura: Something that I'm kind of expecting an update on is what she's going to do for the book.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: Oh, yeah! Yeah, you know, that would be a good door thing.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: Like, her big announcement for the - yeah, yeah, well, yeah. [laughs] It should be soon, right?

[Laura laughs]

Andrew: I mean...

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: ...we found out in May...

Laura: I'm kind of surprised we haven't heard anything yet.

Andrew: Yeah. We found out in May, when Half-Blood Prince - for the Half-Blood Prince release. That was, that was a May announcement, wasn't it?

Laura: I thought it was April.

Andrew: Okay, well, point is it's time. [laughs] So...

Laura: Yeah, it really is time.

Eric: What's next?

Harry Potter Site Updates

Andrew: Well, and both received Order of the Phoenix updates. MuggleNet gave everyone an exclusive preview of the .com site the day before it went live. What do you guys think? I like it. It's okay.

Eric: I like the music.

Laura: Yeah. I mean...

Ben: I just don't...

Laura: I think it looks a lot like all the other sites they've put up.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I, I - it's fairly standard.

Laura: Yeah.

Ben: I wouldn't say it's impressive, really.

Andrew: Yeah. I think the most interesting about both websites is that the music sounds like it's from the movie. It's not just your...

Laura: Yeah, it does.

Andrew: ...generic, you know, like, lame music. And...

Ben: What that reminds me of, is if you - it reminds me of the DVD menu on the - when you buy the DVDs.

Andrew: Right.

Ben: I know it sounds weird, but...

Andrew: Right.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: I'm going to turn it up now.

[Music from website begins playing]

Andrew: And, I mean, I really like it. It's very whimsical.

Laura: I really like it, too.

Andrew: I really - and I made this mistake. It's actually Nicholas Hooper who is composing the soundtrack. And I really like it. He puts a new spin on John Williams, his work.

Laura: Mhm. Yeah, I like it a lot. Andrew Yeah.

Laura: I thought the Goblet of Fire soundtrack was kind of boring, so...

Andrew: It was...

Laura: I kind of like hearing this stuff.

Andrew: It was all right.

Eric: I found it - it was an adventure movie, I mean, action kind of...

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: ...dominated.

Laura: Mhm.

Eric: But this seems less - maybe we just aren't using the military kind of, totalitarian, because this sounds more like Chris Columbus's movies.

Andrew: Yeah, it's very happy.

Eric: It's very rich.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: It's very happy, but very rich in all sorts of instruments that sound magical, obviously.

Andrew: If you listen to the whole clip, it's about - the whole loop that plays on the site is close to five minutes long and it seems to me, listening to it, it seems to me that it's broken up into sections, like it's six songs mashed into one.

Laura: Yeah.

Andrew: It goes from the whimsical stuff to Hedwig's theme, like remix. It's got some different effects to it, which I really liked by the way. It seems to jump around. So, they're really giving people a nice little sneak peak, and I really like it. You guys do too?

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, so when's the soundtrack due out?

Andrew: Uh, I don't know, actually, no. I don't know.

Ben: Who here owns all of the soundtracks?

Andrew: Errr, I don't.

Laura: I don't.

Micah: I don't.

Eric: I own one, two, and three.

Laura: I only have three.

Eric: I have the Richard Harris version of Chamber of Secrets, and I think I also bought the Harry version, because remember they had five different characters for the Chamber of Secrets soundtrack?

Laura: Yeah. Why would you want to buy the same CD five times?

Eric: That's the unfortunate thing.

Andrew: I'm looking on right now, and they have the release date set at July 10th, so...

Eric: That's cool.

Andrew: Three days before the movie comes out, which is not bad. Yeah, so you guys might remember that we had a little Goblet of Fire soundtrack contest on MuggleCast last year, and we gave away some CDs and that was a great success. So maybe, hopefully we can do that again with the Order of the Phoenix soundtrack. I'm looking forward to it, I think it will be good. I think Nicholas Hooper sounds like a good composer. Nothing really else big happened in the news this week, right Micah?

Eric: But, this summer we have plenty of stuff.


Andrew: Yes we do. Moving onto the announcements, we have - let's see here - five live podcasts scheduled so far that we'll be at.

Ben: Five? Five?

Andrew: Yeah, we're going to kick it off with the UK premiere as a Leaky Mug, the US premiere as another Leaky Mug. The UK premiere is looking like me, Jamie, and Kevin, and then also with Melissa and John from Leaky, and the US premiere is Ben, and Laura will be there, too, with Leaky Folks. Then Enlightening 2007 is going to be me, Ben, Jamie, and Micah. The Deathly Hallows release is hopefully going to be everyone. Eric, are you coming state side for the book or no?

Eric: No, but I'll mention in another - like in a minute.

Andrew: Okay.

Ben: Are you going to be working that night?

Eric: Uh, I'll let you know in a minute.

Andrew: And then we also have Prophecy. We're going to wrap it up with Prophecy. We're looking into maybe doing a couple other shows, nothing guaranteed yet, but we know that a lot of people - well, I won't say anything yet. So...

Ben: What are you talking about?

Andrew: Doing a couple extra shows this summer.

Ben: Oh, yeah.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: So, we'll keep you guys updated. It's a very busy summer, though, and it's hard getting everyone around.

Eric: Yeah, so...

Andrew: So, that is that. Eric go ahead.

Eric: So, I don't know exactly. I actually won't be at Prophecy this year guys, I wanted to let you know.

Ben: Weren't you already registered?

Andrew: Yeah, weren't you?

Eric: Yeah, it actually was...

Ben: If anyone's looking for a Prophecy registration...

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

Eric: No, no, no no. I've actually got a few ideas that Prophecy is going to be really good, and really, really fun.

Andrew: It is.

Eric: A little birdie told me, so I want you guys to have fun. I won't actually be there. I know, I'm sorry, I'm just completely overwhelmed with school here because we don't get a summer break until November. So...

Andrew: That stinks.

Eric: This southern hemisphere thing is kind of funny. The UK/US premieres and stuff, I really don't think I'll be there, but I'll be there in spirit, and if anyone is in New Zealand or Australia, come to the Borders in Wellington, because that's probably where I'll be. In my robes.

Andrew: Sweet. Well, you can hold a sort of MuggleNet event.

Ben: You should hold one.

Eric: I was thinking about that. I want to invite you guys to New Zealand, actually. You can come here.

Ben: Ummm, sorry. We won't be there.

[Andrew laughs]

Ben: We have plans.

Andrew: Yeah, sorry.

Laura: We'll be there in spirit, though.

Eric: Come on, guys. Actually, there's a lot of Australian hype. You guys would be surprised...

Andrew: No, no, no I'm sure it is. We actually have a lot of MuggleCast listeners in Australia. I don't know about New Zealand exactly, but Australia, you know...

Eric: Yeah, yeah. No, it is a big deal. I've been getting some comments and e-mails saying are you going to do something?

Andrew: Cool.

Eric: Right now I don't know. I'll keep you posted on it. What I'm doing for Book 7.

Andrew's Apple Store Appearance

Andrew: Keep us posted. You know what I was doing the other day? I was at the local Apple store, where I had a sort of mini-event. My Shawnee High School TV tech program, we put on a little student showcase event, and I did a thing on MuggleCast and how MuggleCast is made, and I posted on Mugglenet earlier in the day about it, and we had about 15 people show up. It was a lot of fun meeting all the fans, there are some pictures on Facebook if everybody wants to see some pictures, and everyone got a shirt, and they really enjoyed their time, so I want to thank everyone who did come out to that. Also, birthday shout-out to one of the girls who was there, Hannah E. who recently turned 13 the other day. We usually don't do birthday shout outs on the show, but she was a very nice little girl who came out. She was very cool, she was there with her friend, and that was a lot of fun. Also, Laura, one of your big fans was there.

Laura: Oh, really?

Andrew: Yeah, a girl named Ashley.

[Phone rings]

Andrew: Age ten, actually. She is...

Laura: Awww.

Andrew: Yeah, she was very cool.

Micah: She is calling you right now, actually.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

[Laura laughs]

Eric: So maybe not your biggest fan, Laura, because she is a little ten-year old.

[Andrew and Laura laugh]

Andrew: Yeah, but she wanted me to tell you on the show that she also thinks that Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban is the best Potter film yet.

Laura: Thank you, I appreciate that. I am telling you from the mouth of the future generation, right there.

Andrew: [laughs] And we tried calling you but you did not answer your phone you saw that it was me, so maybe next time. [laughs]

Laura: No, I was at work, I was at work...

Andrew: That is what I told her.

Micah: Oh, come on you could have picked up the phone.

Laura: I was slaving away at the Target Guest Services desk.

Micah: Andrew picked up today in phone during class when you called him...

Andrew: Yeah, return the favor.

Micah: You could pick up the phone at work.

Laura: You were in class?

Micah: Yeah, trying to get him in trouble.

Andrew: Yeah, I was in class, yeah I was.

Laura: You are so full of crap.

[Andrew laughs]

Micah: No he is not.

Andrew: Somehow Micah knows all the details. [laughs]

Laura: You had me feeling really bad for a second.

Andrew: Yeah so shout out to Ashley and Hannah and everyone else who came out it was a lot of fun and about 15 people came up and I posted that the day of, so it was pretty cool having all those people come out and all the kids from my school could not believe it they were like, "Who are all these MuggleCast fans?" [mumbles]

So, also don't forget to vote for us in Podcast Alley and do'nt forget you have a little under a month to sign up for Pickle Pack, it's the official membership service of the MuggleCast. You will get a new video blog everyday from one of the co-hosts. So, I'm on Sundays, Ben's on Saturdays, Laura you're on Tuesdays?

Laura: Monday.

Eric: Monday.

[Andrew laughs]

Eric: Eric is Tuesday, Jamie is Wednesday, Micah is Thursday, Kevin is Friday.

Andrew: It's a lot fun.

Ben: Thank you.

Andrew: We've been doing some crazy stuff and...

Eric: And by the way - sorry to cut you off Andrew, I just have to know: were you or were you not wearing your seatbelt in your latest Blickle?

Andrew: I was, I was, I was. In my latest Blickle I was recording my Blickle and driving at the same time. You have a little under a month. We will stop taking registrations on June 16th at which it will be closed for at least a year. Don't know if we'll ever open it up again so, you know, buy now. And, of course, all proceeds go to the show for all of our summer plans and we appreciate your support very, very much. I think that is about it for announcements, just a little side note: my birthday is on Tuesday, so if you want to send me gifts, just e-mail me and I will provide you with a mailing address.

New P.O. Box

Eric: Oh, if you want to send him gifts, do we not have a new P.O. Box for that?

Laura: Oh, that is right. We do.

Andrew: [laughs] We do have a P.O. Box.

Ben: This is another announcement isn't it?

Andrew: It sort of is. Laura, go for it. [laughs]

Laura: We now have a P.O. Box that is going to be:

P.O. Box 3151
Cumming, Georgia 30028

Ben: And if you just love writing Moundridge you can still send it here. It's gonna end up in Georgia.

Andrew: Yeah.

Ben: I did the forwarding thing today. Oh by the way, Emerson Spartz, the ever - you know you never hear anything about him anymore, we are going to have a real Spy On Spartz on my Blickle next week.

Eric: Oh.

Ben: Because Emerson is going to be here for my graduation, so come watch, get Pickle Pack, you can see me and Emerson having a good time at the Schoen residence.

[Eric laughs]

Listener Rebuttal: The Symbol and Azkaban

Andrew: [laughs] Okay. Lets move onto a couple of rebuttals now. Just a couple. We got some feedback last week about the symbol, that symbol that you guys did a great job discussing. The first one comes from Dusty Stout, 25 of Utah. He writes:

"I wondered why no one had noticed that Azkaban was a huge triangle. It hit me right away that it resembled the Rune Symbol on the UK Cover. Do you think there is a connection? If so, do you suppose the trio pays a visit to the famed wizard prison? You guys are great. Keep it cool, I mean, Pickley. Thanks, Dusty!"

Micah, what do you think about this?

Micah: I think that it is a good theory. It's just another one of those things we can add. I know Ben was going over it last week saying we have so many good theories but we really have no basis to go on.

Ben: Confirm or deny...

Micah: Yeah, exactly.

Ben: ...whether or not it's true.

Micah: It is just a symbol. It is just complete speculation at this point. I think it's cool, I mean, why not? Why not send the trio to Azkaban at some point? But, I just don't know. To me it jjust seems like a symbol to me than anything else. I do not know if it is representative of the prison, per se.

Laura: Do you think Jo would work with the movies on that? Like...

Andrew: That's a good point.

Laura: ...tell them they specifically needed to make Azkaban look like this?

Andrew: that would make sense.

Ben: She would actually. Because I remember hearing that she had a lot of say in something in the first movie with how...

Eric: It was the Voldemort and going back to...

Ben: Yeah, the Voldemort entering the Godric's Hollow. She had a lot of say of how that was filmed. So, if something was crucial, if that symbol really matters as much as we seem to think it does, then...

Micah: If it is Azkaban then what does the circle represent, you know, with the line down the middle? You know, how does that play in?

Eric: Time.

Micah: Well...

Ben: Oh, a line.

Eric: Time is circular.

Ben: It means Azkaban is going to be split.

Eric: In half.

Ben: Then they're going to form a circle around it.

Eric: By a giant circle.

Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.

[Everyone laughs]

Ben: Yeah. [laughs] By a giant circle.

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