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Andrew: Because Voldemort is like a big, bald Mr. Clean, this is Mugglecast Episode 92 for May 28th, 2007.
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Andrew: I'm not going to lie, this has not been our week.
Kevin: No, it hasn't.
Laura: Definitely not.
Andrew: Sorry to start the show off with a couple of bumps in the road, but besides it being my birthday. Thanks to everyone who sent gifts, grand total of one. It has not been our week. But now I feel like we got a good show planned.
Kevin: Yeah, we do. Definitely.
Andrew: I'm really excited because I have a very big announcement on the show this week.
Micah: What is it?
Andrew: It's - well, I don't want to give it away, because it's sort of like my teaser into the show.
Micah: Awww, that's not fair.
Andrew: Well, Micah, I don't want to reveal anything because it's big news.
Micah: I'm excited.
Andrew: I'm excited to tell you, but I can't tell you yet, so...
Andrew: Sorry. Micah, you seemed like you were in a good mood earlier. What was that about?
Micah: I am in a good mood, because today is the unofficial start of summer: Memorial Day.
Laura: Well, not necessarily. Down south summer started in like February, but okay.
Andrew: I actually think my announcement is more exciting than that, Micah.
Andrew: Yeah. I can't say anymore, though. I'm Andrew Sims.
Kevin: I'm Kevin Steck.
Eric: I'm Eric Scull.
Laura: I'm Laura Thompson.
Micah: And I'm Micah Tannenbaum.
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Andrew: Micah Tannenbaum is in the MuggleCast news center with the past week's top Harry Potter news stories. Micah?
Micah: All right, thanks Andrew.
Jo Rowling has updated her website with her plans for the release of Book 7. According to Bloomsbury, to celebrate the publication of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows on July 21st, J.K. Rowling will be signing the night away at the Natural History Museum in London. 1,700 fans will have the opportunity to meet J.K. Rowling and have their book signed at the Natural History Museum. The first 500 randomly selected winners will attend the midnight reading with J.K. Rowling and the signing is expected to last until dawn. Tickets to the event are free and were made available by online drawing back on May 23rd. The deadline for applicants is June 11th. To apply for these tickets, be sure to head over to Bloomsbury's website.
Tilden, the Swedish Potter publisher, has revealed on their official website that JK Rowling has provided an alternative Deathly Hallows title to foreign countries. It will now be called Harry Potter and the Relics of Death. The second title was released by Jo and Bloomsbury because the phrase "Deathly Hallows" is hard to translate.
Speaking of Sweden, the book will be released there on November 21st and in Germany on October 27th.
The Mirror reported on Saturday that initial printing of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows has begun at a GGP print factory in the small town of Poessneck, Germany. Reportedly, staff at the factory are searched when entering and leaving the factory each day. Furthermore, they are forced to work in "total darkness" to prevent them from reading the book. While we already know that security is stricter for this book, this seems to be a rather ridiculous measure. Keep in mind, however, that The Mirror is a tabloid.
Moving on to movie news, The Scotsman is reporting that Warner Brothers is looking into several locations in Scotland for Half-Blood Prince. Warner Brothers, which is preparing to shoot the sixth Potter film, has sent an executive to the cliffs and caves around Cape Wrath. The producers are interested in using the caves and cliffs as part of the dramatic climax of the new film.
And the BBC reported earlier this week that the World Premiere of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix will be held in Japan on June 28th. The Japanese capital was chosen after another highly-anticipated sequel, Spider-Man 3, opened there and broke box office records. But a Warner Brothers spokeswoman said there was "no special reason" for opting to launch the film in Japan.
As previously mentioned, the London premiere will take place on July 3rd, and the US premiere will take place in Los Angeles on July 8th.
And speaking of the U.S. premiere, Warner Brothers has announced that actors Dan Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint will all be participating in a "hand, foot, and wand" ceremony at Grauman's Chinese Theater in Los Angeles, California, on July 9th.
Finally, the British Board of Film Classification has revealed that the fifth Harry Potter movie will be 138 minutes long. That's 2 hours and 18 minutes. Also, the movie will be rated 12A in the UK and PG-13 here in the US.
That's all the news for this May 28th, 2007 edition of MuggleCast. Back to the show.
Andrew: All right, thank you, Micah.
Micah: No problem.
Andrew: You know, Micah. There's been an okay amount of news over the last week, and I know last week we were complaining that there wasn't news.
Micah: Yeah. It's been great, man. Keeping me busy. Having been getting much time away from the News Center, to be quite honest with you.
Andrew: You know, that's all right, though. Earlier this week, ix new TV spots came out for Order of the Phoenix. WB sort of through them all on us at once, and did you guys watch these?
Micah: I caught them on TV. These were the ones that were on during Survivor: Fiji. Is that what you were talking about?
Andrew: Was it? Yeah, I think they were the same ones. I'm just not - I watched all six of them and I wasn't very impressed. They weren't very momentous. They weren't very...powerful. They were just bland. I guess when you are only doing 30 second spots, you can't really make much.
Micah: Saw Draco for the first time.
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, we did...
Eric: Whoa, Draco's in this movie?
Andrew: Draco's in this movie.
Eric: [laughs] Hey!
Andrew: No big surprises that wasn't anything special. They just lacked power. They failed to make me want to go see the film, just by watching those TV spots, which is what they should be aiming for. You know?
Andrew: But also, this week on The Ellen Degeneres Show here in the United States, they aired an entire scene...
Kevin: Yeah, I saw that one...
Andrew: The Umbridge welcoming scene.
Laura: I did watch that...
Andrew: Where Dumbledore is giving his welcome speech.
Kevin: Yeah, me too. I really liked it.
Andrew: I'm really happy with it.
Laura: Yeah. I was impressed. Exactly how I imagined from the book, which - it's kind of a rare thing wen you can consider these movies, you know whenever you see something that is exactly as it was in the book, it's like, 'Wow!' Because so often they are changing things, or condensing things. So, it was really good to see it intact.
Eric: Does Hermione say, you know, 'The Ministry is interfering at Hogwarts?' or what exactly sticks to the book?
Laura: Well, they didn't really get that far, it was like Umbridge's character and the way she presented herself to the school, and they were actually lines verbatem from the book. Like, you know how she said...
Eric: Umbridge's speech is really in the book, is it? I mean it opens, but then Harry tunes out. Harry tunes out.
Laura: Yeah, but the whole theme of it is there though.
Eric: Oh, yeah.
Laura: The whole beginning part were she was talking about how she hoped to be good friends with everybody and they left that whole thing in. And they really had her...
Laura: ...talking to everyone as though they were five-years old, which was really fantastic.
Andrew: Right, right.
Kevin: Yeah, it really was.
Micah: I liked the way she interrupted Dumbledore.
Andrew: Yeah, I was just going to say that. Perfect. I really enjoyed that. Michael Gambon was looking pretty good, and there was a little cut scene of the trio. I'm trying to load the clip up. Oh, Trelawney. [laughs] The look on Trelawney's face!
Andrew: The look on Trelawney's face is the best!
Kevin: Yeah, it's awesome.
Andrew: Oh my god. Oh my god. I love her. So good. [laughs] But yeah, this is going to be fantastic. I love show spots, too. It's a very short preview, but it's great. It looks like a great scene.
Andrew: And then the Order of the Phoenix running time was confirmed: 2 hours and 18 minutes. The shortest film [laughs] of all five.
Eric: Is it?
Andrew: I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, it's the shortest.
Laura: I'm wondering how they are managing this because it's the longest book...
Andrew: It doesn't make sense.
Eric: The shortest and yet- The shortest movie, and yet it still seems it fits more of the book than perhaps 3, or 4.
Kevin: We'll see.
Andrew: What are you basing that off of? Pictures?
Kevin: Small clips.
Eric: Yeah, that's true.
Andrew: It's very true. [laughs] I mean, it's kind of weird.
Eric: Still. I mean, they can make the third Pirates movie three hours long. And that's not even, you know - I mean, they could have condensed that into two-and-a-half hours, I think. So, I think that Harry Potter...
Andrew: You've got to think of the production company, too. That wasn't WB, was it?
Laura: Yeah, that was Disney.
Andrew: I mean, they all - yeah, that's a Disney film.
Eric: That's Disney.
Andrew: They all have their different takes on it. I don't know. You know, just seeing the facts: longest book, shortest film. Yeah, it doesn't make sense immediately. But maybe they're going to prove us wrong.
Laura: Well, I think what we need to consider is that they have done a lot of condensing when it comes to certain plot lines. Like they've completely left out Rita Skeeter. I mean, and that was a huge part of the book.
Kevin: Oh yeah, definitely.
Laura: They've left out a lot of that kind of stuff. And I think that they're kind of going to stick to the idea of the Order and Harry's conflict with Umbridge. And when you're thinking about sticking to only those two plot lines, it's not going to be a really long film.
Kevin: That's true. Yeah.
Eric: That's true.
Andrew: That's true.
Kevin: And hopefully they'll do those parts correctly and we'll be happy with it.
Eric: So, if they can essentially just squeeze off some of the threads of the plot and hold it and focus on two of the larger ones, or two of the ones they want to focus on. The other ones can kind of fall into place. Not necessarily aren't possible by the movie, but just aren't focused on in the movie. You know? So the plots could potentially - do you think the plots could still be going on, kind of? Even though they aren't in the movie? Or do you reckon this is actually, WB presents the fifth Harry Potter book. And they totally just don't use some of the stuff.
Eric: Because we've seen before where they...
Laura: You can't really use all of those plot lines. You just can't. There's too much to follow in a movie. And I'm sure...
Eric: Yeah, I suppose you're right.
Laura: I'm sure that they're considering that they're going to have a lot of little kids going to see these films. And little kids don't like to sit through three hour movies.
Micah: I don't like that argument. That argument drives me nuts.
Laura: I can tell you...
Eric: I totally don't - yeah. Micah...
Laura: It's true though.
Kevin: It's true, yeah.
Laura: I mean, it's a true consideration. Not all kids are like that. But when you...
Eric: It's "bull" true.
Micah: Well, let's look at Goblet of Fire, which obviously was longer than this film. Not by much, but still, why not extend it out to at least two-and-a-half hours. Like you guys said before, this is the longest book in the series.
Laura: Yeah, but at the same time, would you want them to give it an extra 10 or 20 minutes if it really didn't need it?
Micah: No, no, no, no. I agree.
Laura: I mean, if it was tied up well enough.
Micah: Quality is the most important thing. If it's 2 hours and 18 minutes and it's quality for those two hours and eighteen minutes, then that's fine.
Eric: I agree, too. I agree.
Andrew: Yeah. Well, if you think about it, 10 to 20 minutes is maybe three scenes.
Kevin: Yeah. It's not going to make that drastic...
Andrew: So, you're not adding much in a 10 to 20 minute period. That could be enough time for maybe a re-made Rita Skeeter plot.
Eric: Could be enough...
Andrew: Or maybe a little more development of the Cho Chang relationship.
Eric: No, no. It could be enough to show all of the Mrs. Black scenes, with her portrait. Could be enough time to...
Laura: Yeah, but that's a big budget-cut, though.
Laura: I mean, leaving her portrait out of the movie saved them a lot of money.
Eric: Yeah, but this is Harry Potter...
Eric: What money do they need to save?
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Eric: You know?
Laura: Well, I mean...
Eric: That's the actual question. This might end up being, and I predict it will be, probably the coolest movie. A lot of people will be very happy with it, as a movie, as a compilation of the longest book. Even despite how much it leaves out. But at the same point, even though we've always acknowledged that Warner Brothers has no - they have a commitment to the fans, but they don't need to please them. They can cut whatever they want to out of the movie. If it cuts the budget, then that's fine. They can do that. But what I think we're going to see is, even though it's 2 hours and 18 minutes long, it is the shortest movie. I think that is slightly worrying, not for any content of the film. But I think it's a little bit sad that they turned the longest book into the shortest movie. Even if it's the best movie yet. And I agree with your quality statement. I think they should have added just a bit more. Just so that they could do it, because this - These are supposed to be the movie representations of the books.
Kevin: Yeah, but it's hard to say that without seeing the movie, because like Laura was saying, it's quite possible that they just removed, they just removed certain plot lines in the book and the added time wouldn't help the movie at all.
Laura: No, because if you consider that...
Laura: ...the movie's already 2 hours and 18 minutes, if they tack on another 15 to 20 minutes to try and develop another plot line, it's going to be very poorly developed.
Eric: Well, that's...
Laura: It's going to be very rushed.
Eric: That's if the added footage - that's if the added footage is another plot line.
Laura: Yeah, but then you're talking about...
Eric: They could also seemingly...
Laura: ...over - then you're talking about overdoing...
Andrew: Overdoing it, yeah.
Laura: ...a plot line that already had plenty of explanation.
Andrew: Laura's right, yeah.
Eric: Well, what I mean is adding a plotline as opposed to adding scenes that are good to see, but don't actually go either way with the plot. I mean, each movie - obviously the director wants to add their own, you know, feel to it, so that overall, you can see, like in Goblet of Fire, the whole thing had, you know, an ongoing movement to it. The movie didn't really necessarily stop, or if it did stop...
Eric: ...those were fun scenes, too. Oh, I'm just saying adding...
Andrew: What do you think...
Eric: ...scenes - sorry, Andrew.
Andrew: What do you think is WB's main goal when designing how long the film is going to be? I don't think it's going to be kids, because I think kids would rather sit through a movie. I think the bigger concern with littler kids is how scared they might be. Because I was talking to a parent the other day who's not taking their kids, and granted, they're young, they're about three or four, but they're huge fans of Harry Potter, just based on, you know, seeing other kids dressed up as Harry Potter, and the first two movies, which aren't very scary, and even Prisoner of Azkaban, but Order of the Phoenix, this parent was telling me, looks pretty darn scary, and they're right, with the Voldemort scenes at the end. That's scary, that scares kids. So...
Eric: He's a big...
Andrew: I don't think...
Eric: ...bald Mr. Clean!
Andrew: It doesn't matter.
Eric: With talcum powder on. He's not...
Kevin: Yeah, but...
Eric: Just because he doesn't have a nose.
Kevin: But Eric, how old are you?
Eric: He doesn't have a nose - okay.
Kevin: How old are you?
Eric: Rolie Polie Olie looks scarier than that.
Kevin: Because you can...
Eric: Rolie - okay, okay. So I can get into the mind of a three-year old, okay, but...
Eric: ...but I grew up watching Eureka's Castle and Nick Jr., okay, and by - I was a little - actually, Nick Junior was a little bit after my time, but I still watched it, okay? So, don't tell me that kids are going to A. you know, be in a theatre for three hours, because if you put them in front of the TV, which is not how children should be raised, but they will sit there for as long as they want to. Now, as far as the scary scenes, I would like to be sympathetic and say that you're right, Order of the Phoenix will be a scary movie, and they should cut out, or they should at least worry about some of the scariness. Yes, to a degree I believe you're right as well but you can't really say that Chamber of Secrets wasn't scary, because some people might not like spiders.
Eric: You know, and just...
Andrew: Yeah. Okay, but let me...
Micah: Or the basilisk.
Andrew: ...put it this way. I went to see...
Eric: And the basilisk was...
Andrew: ...Shrek 3.
Eric: ...scary. I would, I would actually...
Andrew: I went to go see - yeah. No, you're right, you're right. All right. I went to...
Eric: I would say that the basilisk was scarier than Voldemort. I don't want to, I don't want to keep cutting you off, Andrew, but I would say that the basilisk was scarier than Voldemort, and Voldemort's...
Eric: ...just done well, you know? That's - and well, the basilisk was, too, but...
Andrew: I went to go see Shrek 3 last week with my brother, and towards the end of the movie...
Andrew: ...that whole - well, I'm just saying. There was a little kid who got scared at the end of Shrek 3. Shrek 3! And that wasn't scary at all. So what I'm saying is, little kids can get scared easily by these things. However, back to the point. What is WB's main concern? Micah?
Micah: WB's main concern is what's ending up in their pocket after the day is done.
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Andrew: Moving along to some other news now, rumor has it that Deathly Hallows is being printed up in Germany, so that means in about another week we're going to be seeing the bets about the outcome of Book Seven and the whole plot is going to be ruined for all of us.
Andrew: So I can't wait for that. In the article, it said that they were printing the books in the dark...
Andrew: ...which sounds a bit extreme. That can't, I mean...
Laura: That's awesome! [laughs]
Andrew: It came from a tabloid, but how can you work in the - that's - I can understand...
Laura: They'll have to bring their night lights.
Andrew: Yeah, well I can understand dark lighting, or dim lighting, so they can't - so they they have a hard time making out...
Eric: What, with each other?
Andrew: Chapter titles and stuff like that.
Laura: Is it hard to make out in the dark?
Kevin: Oh, geez.
Eric: No, it's really not if you find each other.
Laura: [laughs] I was being stupid.
Eric: Why, Laura? Haven't you ever made out in the dark before?
Laura: Eric, that is not a question you need to be asking.
Andrew: For the answer, join up the Pickle Pack. Speaking of Pickle Pack, I'll get to that announcement in a second. National Wear Your MuggleCast T-shirt Day is coming up. Remember last year, June 2nd.
Eric: Thank god you read your e-mail.
Andrew: [Laughs] Yeah. It was a great success. We had tons of people wearing their muggleCast t-shirts on June 2nd. Everyone took pictures and sent them in to MuggleCast, and we posted them on the website. We want you guys to do the same thing again, so on June 2nd everyone get out and wear your muggleCast t-shirt with pride, and then send us a picture of you wearing it somewhere outside besides your house, because your house is boring. Yeah, I said it, and we will post it on MuggleCast.com.
Micah: And we have to wear ours, all the hosts.
Eric: Can we acknowledge?
Andrew: Yeah, well we'll promise that we'll do it this year, and once again, not do it, so...
Eric: Yeah, because you guys didn't do it last year. I did it.
Andrew: Eric did it, Micah did it, Laura did it.
Laura: I did it!
Eric: I hung from a tree upside down with my shirt on.
Andrew: I didn't. Sorry.
Eric: But you're going to.
Laura: And I will be happy to do it this year, Andrew, I just need you to send me another shirt.
Andrew: Oh, yeah we can do that. I still have got plenty of MuggleCast t-shirts here, and no I'm not selling them to anyone. Every time I say that on the show I get people e-mailing me asking, "Can I have a shirt?" No! Contest only.
Eric: It's illegal. It's illegal
Andrew: And co hosts. Ummm, under the table, 50 bucks. Also, this month - June, we are going to start something new. It's nothing new, just a little thing to help us spread the word about the show. It's Global Spread MuggleCast Month, and on MuggleCast.com we have a new page where you can use some banners and avatars to put in maybe your forum profiles, or Myspaces or your Livejournals, your blogs, and anything else to help spread the word about MuggleCast. They all have catchy little phrases on them like "I love Harry Potter,I love MuggleCast", or "I crave Harry Potter, I crave MuggleCast.There's one more. they're some cool banners you can put - so if you want to help us spread the word about the show - we cant to get the word out because we're getting really close to Book 7, and Movie 5. We want to make sure everybody knows about the show, because, don't you guys think that if a lot of Harry Potter fans that don't know about the show, if they did find out that they'd be pretty interested in hearing what we have to say? I mean, I'm not trying to sound arrogant, but...
Laura: I think so.
Andrew: But, you know...
Laura: No, I think so.
Andrew: Well, people like the show.
Micah: People leave feedback as new listeners, and it's pretty good, so...
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not is a great time to try to get the word out. You couldn't get any better timing than this, so visit MuggleCast.com for that.
Eric: What about new listeners who haven't been able to get a shirt because we weren't allowed to sell them since they started listening. What should they do for MuggleCast shirt day?
Andrew: Well, they could sign up for Pickle Pack, which is the official membership thingy of MuggleCast. Just go to PicklePack.com, create a MuggleNet.com account if you don't already have one, and you can pay thirty dollars to get access to bonus content, audio, bonus MuggleCast audio content, pictures, secret documents, and also a daily video blog by each one of the hosts. On Sundays I post, Mondays Laura posts, ummm, I can't remember the rest.
Eric: Tuesday, Eric; Jamie, Wednesday...
Andrew: Jamie's got Wednesday.
Eric: Micah, Thursday; Kevin, Friday; Ben, Saturday...
Kevin: Sometimes Friday.
Eric: Mikey B - you know, Kevin, it was just that you owe them, like, four Blickles, but your first one, as I said, I really liked.
Andrew: Yeah, MIkey just joined the crew too he's going to be posting video blogs when he can. He just posted a new one last night and we have some bonus audio content going up. Plus, you get a free Pickle Pack T-shirt with your order. So visit and PicklePack.com. You only have until June 16 to become a member then we will be closing registration for probably forever so - and I am not just saying that just to make everyone buy now, I am actually serious.
[Andrew and Laura laugh]
Andrew: So go visit PicklePack.com today to for more details and all proceeds from Pickle Pack go to supporting the show to makre sure that - we want to be able to cover all the events going on this summer and the best way to do that is to raise an ample amount of money and Pickle Pack is our solution for it. So thanks everyone who does sign up. Okay also...
Eric: And still developing.
Andrew: ...yeah, yes. Also, vote for us on Podcast - oh, sorry one more thing about Pickle Pack this week we added new member profiles. People can have their own mini MySpace right there on Pickle Pack like with their favorite MuggleCast episodes a little picture of themselves and all that. Its optional you don't have to if you want to remain, you know, if you want to keep your identity private. But you can create your own profile so that other Pickle Pack members can get to know you. Its all part of becoming a little community and people are really enjoying it.
Andrew: So it's been a lot of fun.
Andrew: All right so moving on Do not forget to vote for us on Podcast Alley and I have a big update that I was teasing about in the beginning of the show. [sighs] I lost my notes, of course, but earlier this week I received an e-mail from Prophecy letting me know that I was accepted to perform at Prophecy. How awesome is that?
Kevin: Oh, geez.
Andrew: I am going to perform as [laughs] part of...
Micah: Are they desperate for music acts?
Andrew: Micah, Micah. Come on.
Micah: I am just kidding, you know I love you.
Andrew: What are you trying to say? I'm not good?
Eric: So wait. Are you going to be intro-ing the show the way Alex from the Remus Lupins did?
Andrew: No, they are having a Wizard Rock Night where it has a - all the Wizard Rockers are going to be performing one night [laughs] and I am a part of this so...
Laura: Is your friend coming to do back-up vocals?
Eric: Snare the drums?
Eric: Your buddy on the drums.
Andrew: I can't - do not have the money to fly him out. For more information visit PicklePack.com. But, yeah I am going to be doing that I'm really excited about that I hope you guys are all going to be there.
Kevin: Oh, definitely.
Andrew: Front row, cheering me on?
Laura: Oh, we will.
Kevin: I'll be passing out earplugs.
Andrew: Hopefully I'll be getting help for back-up.
Kevin: One pair.
Andrew: Oh, I get it very funny.
Eric: I will be...
Andrew: So, I will be performing my first Wizard Rock single but also coming next week I am going to release my next single, which is a spin on the song "Bye Bye Bye." Which I sang a little preview on that special...
Kevin: Oh geez.
Andrew: ...episode of MuggleCast where we - where the release date was announced and we talked about it and I sang "Bye Bye Bye, don‘t let it be July" I made that into a full song and that single will be premiering here on MuggleCast next week, Episode 93. So, definitely looking forward to that. It is pretty good, dare I say it is better than my last one. So...
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