Antipodes

Eric: Yeah. But you guys – Micah there's also a thing on Antipodes about noon at one place being midnight at the other.

Micah: Yeah.

Eric: On the opposite side of the world and so the longest day at one point corresponds to the shortest day at the other and midwinter at one point is contemporaneous with midsummer at the other. So it could play into the sky. Do you guys – do you get that?

Micah: It could play into the sky, it could also play into – we know midwinter, well December 31st is when Voldemort was born, and we also know that...

Eric: Yeah.

Micah: ...Harry was born midsummer. So...

Jamie: Ah, that's very good, yeah.

Eric: July 31st.

Jamie: And also...

Eric: But that's actually five months apart.

Jamie: And on the cover of the American edition, they're holding they're hands up to the sky...

Laura: Yeah.

Jamie: ...perhaps that, I mean this is terrible but, perhaps it's a kind of half-and-half thing. Night and day as you were saying. Sunset, sunrise...

Micah: Could be. Could be.

Jamie: Actually, that's awful. No don't say that Micah, it's clearly not.

[Micah laughs]

Laura: Well, what if there's something to do with – we know they can't face each other with their wands at least, what if there's some time of year, like you know we're talking about the difference between night and day and the difference between certain days on other sides of the world, what if there's a certain time.

Jamie: It is. Laura, Laura.

Laura: Like, a specific time they can.

Jamie: Laura, it's like on June 20th, and they get there June 19th, stay over...

Ben: But why all of a sudden would they be allowed to on a certain day, I don't get that.

Jamie: Have dinner. Get drunk together as one final night, you know, and then kill each other the next day.

Laura: Well, I don't know, there seems to be a significance put on, like, the earth and specific times of day. That's - I mean, that's at least what I'm getting from this. Like there's suppose to be a special significance put on it and I'm trying to figure out what's so special about it.

Eric: Yeah, and if you look at the explanation, it says dramatic sunset of the, you know? It's sunset and...

Laura: Mhm.

Micah: Right.

Eric: It's kind of like daylight and all sorts of stuff. And like, not only will Book 7, I guess, answer all the questions, or a lot of the questions that we've been asking, but it seems to be focusing on the sky and all these other what would be seemingly random or extraneous kind of ideas like the sky and antipodes like, you know, opposite ends of the earth, what exactly, you know - it's pretty cool stuff.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: Is that the sun setting on the right side of the picture?

Micah: Yeah.

Andrew: I didn't even really notice that until now. I mean, the sky is almost the same color as the regular US edition. So, I mean, we were - in one of the previous shows we were just talking about, well what time of day was it? So I guess if the color of the sky sort of matches, I guess we can assume from both they're both set in the evening.

Eric: Except I was...

Andrew: We were thinking, oh maybe they're fighting all night and then it was like a new day.

Eric: Yeah.

Andrew: A new day.

Eric: Like a new day.

Andrew: Like the sun was rising. So, you know?

Eric: Well I was happy that Hermione and Ron were with Harry in this new image. I was very happy with that. Just because.

Where Does The Cover Fall in The Timeline of Events?

Andrew: Right, it was - well where in the timeline of events is this image placed?

Ben: Towards the end.

Andrew: Because we have...

Micah: Yeah, I agree with Ben.

Andrew: The very end?

Micah: I think this is the end.

Andrew: Because, is this before - is this before or after Harry's battle? With Voldemort.

Laura: I don't know, I don't think it would be after.

Andrew: Yeah. I sort of think it's before too.

Laura: I think they look too scared, especially Hermione, for it to be after.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: And their clothes are in tatters.

Andrew: Well it's weird because it's like, Hermione is looking up at something in the sky, Harry's looking straight ahead.

Laura: Mhm.

Andrew: And Ron's also looking straight ahead, it seems. But it almost looks like this is sometime around when they're coming out of, perhaps, Gringotts. Because they're wearing cloaks. Now they don't match the same colors as the...

Laura: As the UK cover, yeah.

Andrew: Right, right. So.

Where Is the Village?

Laura: Well, you know, I almost wondered when you look at the village below, are they anywhere near Godric's Hollow?

Eric: Yeah, is that Godric's Hollow?

Andrew: Right, right.

Eric: Could it be? Is a hollow - but I thought a hollow was like a clearing in trees or something, so I wasn't...

Jamie: No, no, no. It's just a - yeah.

Laura: It doesn't necessarily have to be...

Jamie: It's just the name or...

Laura: It's just the name for the village or neighborhood.

Eric: Okay yeah, but that's just, you know, that's like - never mind.

Micah: Well, I mean if you go back to the whole antipode thing, part of what it said there is that it's used in Britain to refer to Australia and New Zealand, as the inhabitants of these countries are sometimes referred to as Antipodeans. So, I mean, you could be in a completely different country in that shot right there.

Andrew: Right.

Micah: Beause if that is indeed the dragon, that dragon only resides in Australia and New Zealand. So...

Jamie: Oh really?

Andrew: Right.

Ben: Right, but why would they be going to Australia?

Laura: Eric, have you gotten a visit from Harry?

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: Harry - or Eric. Eric has...

Ben: Eric, Eric has the last horcrux at his house.

[Eric and Laura laugh]

Andrew: I see Alice's house in this cover.

Eric: Yeah, that's us. No actually those houses to resemble some of the houses in Wellington that were built up on hills and stuff. So, I'm just saying I'm feeling the love.

[Micah laughs]

Eric: I don't know exactly what this means but all of a sudden, New Zealand is in the focus as being the Antipodeans of the UK and suddenly I feel like I'm right there!

Jamie: The thing is...

Laura: And Jamie...

Eric: I feel like I'm right there, I feel like it's special.

Jamie: This is quite - the thing about this photo is the clouds. I mean, I assume it isn't drawn to scale, but the clouds look very, very low compared to the village.

Andrew: Wait, are you talking about these?

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Andrew: The fog? That's fog.

Jamie: Oh, is that fog?

Andrew: It's described in the press release.

Jamie: Ah. Okay, ignore me.

Andrew: There's like a little waterfall over to the right, I didn't even really notice that either.

Jamie: Oh yeah. I don't - I mean, apart from that fog stuff that looks like clouds, it just looks like - the village doesn't look particularly important, and although didn't she describe Godric's Hollow as a very normal sort of sleepy village? You know, that wasn't particularly exciting, it was just where they lived.

Eric: Well actually guys theres - if you think about it, there's actually, they're not above - at first when I saw it I thought they were above water, but they're actually flying above farmland but there's a river.

Jamie: Yeah, yeah.

Eric: The orangeness is kind of a river. So, they're actually in between mountains. So, they're flying through a valley, which would seem to fit as well with the Opaleye's origins, as per Fantastic Beasts. So...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Well Jamie, Jamie.

Jamie: Yeah?

Laura: Jamie, are there landscapes like this in the UK at all? I mean, are there mountains like this?

Jamie: No, no, no. No, not with the villages beneath them.

Ben: Okay, but you've got to remember that it is a fantasy world. So, if J.K. Rowling wants mountains to be beneath a mountain...

Laura: Yeah, well...

Eric: No, no but JKR has always been accurate with things like - remember in the first book when they took the trip.

Laura: Like landscapes and stuff.

Eric: Yeah. Yeah, when they took the trip down through England to...

Jamie: And the...

Eric: To Coaxworth..

Ben: Right, and Godric's Hollow and Hogwarts do actually exist.

Eric: Well no, I'm saying, we'll no...

Laura: We're talking about landscapes.

[Ben laughs]

Eric: Well of course. No, no. As far as landscapes go - as far as being geographically correct...

Jamie: And the Hogwarts...

Ben: Come on, as far as creative licenses, she can put whatever she wants.

Eric: Yes she has creative license, but she actually puts the Burrow in a small area outside a village. She actually plans this kind of stuff. When the Railview Hotel is in Coaxworth, you can actually track the, you know, from Surrey to, you know, in that direction. The landscape is the same. She's not gonna put mountains in the middle of England if there aren't any.

Jamie: No, but that's just continuity, Eric. That isn't geography, it's continuity. She can't just say, first they were driving down and road and then they were driving down, you know, a dirt track littered with volcanoes. It's just - it's just not the thing that has to be...

Andrew: It's continuity, but she's also made references to London.

Jamie: Oh, she has, yeah.

Andrew: The fog in London. And the Prime Minister - they didn't make that up. That's not, you know, fantasy.

Jamie: No, but she could say that the Prime Minister lives in, you know, Zimbabwe.

Andrew: Yeah, but it's...

Jamie: It's continuity.

Andrew: ...clear that the Harry Potter books are set in the United Kingdom, outside of London. They go through King's Cross; King's Cross is real. I mean, there's tons of real-life examples.

Ben: Right, but there's tons of real references, at the same time, if - there is no Ottery St. Catchpole, is there? I doubt it.

Andrew: Mmmm.

Eric: Well, I'm just saying, she wouldn't put mountains where there aren't any mountains. She wouldn't put, you know - she wouldn't have them...

Andrew: Unless this is in the magical world. I think that's what we should be considering here.

Ben: Yeah.

Andrew: Because, if this scene is not in the magical world, then yeah, it's probably in New Zealand.

Ben: But why wouldn't it be in the magical world?

Eric: Well, that's the question. There is no – there is no actual magical world, is there? I mean, the magical world is the Muggle world. There is no extra...

Ben: Unless there's locations that are Unplottable.

Eric: Well...

Andrew: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: Unless there's entire, you know - exactly, unless there's mountains in...

Jamie: No, because Unplottable locations still exist in the Muggle world. You just can't see them.

Ben: They still exist, but they don't want to go there, because like you said, they resemble a broken-down house or...

Jamie: Well, yeah, exactly, but if you - she said that Hogwarts is, you know, if Muggles go there, it's a sign saying "Danger, don't enter," or something like that, but if they did enter, and they walked past Harry, would they see each other? It's like, I saw a film the other day, Silent Hill.

Eric: Yeah.

Jamie: Has anyone seen that?

Eric: Silent Hill is a great movie, Jamie.

Jamie: And in it, there are basically two different worlds: one, in which this woman has to find a child, and one in which the woman's husband and a police officer are finding the woman. And you sort of see one scene where the woman is finding her child and all these monsters are there, and the place is red with blood, and stuff like that, and then the camera moves, and it's the police officer and the man in exactly the same place, but it's a completely different world...

Eric: Yeah.

Jamie: ...and they can sense each other but they can't see each other.

Eric: Exactly.

Jamie: So, if, say, if we went into the building that Hogwarts is supposed to be and walked in, and sort of looked around, would you see - could you bump into Harry and stuff like that, or not?

Ben: I don't think so.

Eric: Well, the difference is that you wouldn't be able to travel up the corridors or anything, because the corridors wouldn't be there. You actually wouldn't see Hogwarts, you would be - and by that time, you would remember that you'd left the oven on or the kettle on, or something.

Ben: Yeah.

Ben: Now what about...

Eric: You know, so no. But, just to correct...

Ben: Didn't...

Eric: Sorry, Ben?

Ben: No, go ahead, Eric.

Eric: Okay, well, just to correct about Silent Hill, there's actually, I mean - it was a great movie, I liked it, and a friend of mine got me then into the video games. There's actually four or five different dimensions in Silent Hill, but the town, it's that idea of alternate kind of realities, and what is real and what is not - are they alive or are they dead, and that's kind of Harry Potter-related.

Andrew: Yeah. But also, we also got to remember that if this really is this dragon - the Antipodean Opaleye, whatever you want to call it. If it really is that type of dragon, Jo has specifically said that it's native to New Zealand and Australia. So...

Ben: But does it only reside there? Is that what it says?

Andrew: It says, "The Opaleye is a native of New Zealand, though it has been known to migrate to Australia."

Ben: Right. But so, that doesn't mean that you can't fly on it outside of there.

Andrew: No, but...

Laura: Yeah, but, I mean, Charlie also works with dragons in Romania, so you never know.

Ben: And they transport dragons around all the time, I'm sure.

Andrew: He could of. Well, fair enough, fair enough.

Micah: Well, what if you're talking about...

Eric: Well, it's interesting for the books...

Ben: And, also, okay, I have a question.

Micah: Okay.

How Is This Dragon Tamed? Is It Norbert?

Ben: I don't know if you guys talked about this, don't get mad at me if you did, but didn't Hagrid say dragons can't - I mean, didn't J.K. Rowling say that no matter what Hagrid thinks, dragons can't be tamed? So, how exactly...

Andrew: Yeah, she said something about...

Eric: Well, they can't be tamed. They can't be tamed.

Laura: Something like that.

Eric: ...but you can still...

Ben: So how exactly are they riding one? So, unless it's like - the first thought that came to my mind is that it's Norbert again.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Well, okay, it's the power of love. It's the power of love, okay? Harry can...

Jamie: Well, yeah, there are always exceptions, like manticores.

Ben: For example, though, look into...

Jamie: [sings] My eyes, you will find...

Ben: They always put - J.K. Rowling puts things into the movies, she makes sure certain things are into the movie, and the plotline in Sorcerer's Stone for Norbert was significantly cut down, but at the same time, it was left in there, and you have to wonder why they wouldn't remove it at all unless that was significant later on.

Andrew: Mhm.

Eric: Yeah, that's true.

Ben: And to me, that's why it would make sense that that dragon could be Norbert.

Laura: Mhm.

Ben: Although, do we know, do we actually know - do you actually think that Mary GrandPrι went through Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them to find the exact dragon and draw it based off that description or do you think she was just drawing a dragon?

Eric: Well, forget...

Andrew: Going off the book description?

Eric: I think she read the book, actually. But that was my...

Andrew: She did read the book.

Ben: Oh, I know, I know. But if the book said...

Andrew: If it said it was this type of dragon, this Opaleye...

Ben: But do you think they actually know? I mean, I guess it depends on how the story goes, but...

Andrew: Well, I would think that if you're illustrating one of the most popular books in the world, you would do your research.

Ben: No, that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying...

Laura: I'm sure that there's a description in the book.

Ben: ...would Harry, Ron, and Hermione know? When they will be talking about - "Oh, yeah, I can't wait to go ride the Opaleye dragon" or whatever. I mean, would they actually say that?

Eric: Well, it could be significant.

Laura: There'll going to be a description, though, Ben.

Ben: Right. Of course there would be a description...

Laura: She's not just going to say they hopped on a dragon.

Ben: Of course they'd say, this dragon was this color, blah, blah, blah. But I don't know. Even if it...

Eric: Well, overall...

Why Would They Be in Australia or New Zealand?

Ben: Okay, overall, even if it is from Australia/New Zealand, it doesn't mean that it couldn't go to Great Britain. I mean, what purpose would they have in Australia and New Zealand?

Jamie: It would take a long time.

Eric: Well, no, Ben's question is my question too. It'd be kind of weird for JKR to set a Harry Potter book outside of England at anytime...

Laura: Yeah.

Eric: ... or Europe, I should say. I mean, we've seen, you know, we've heard a bit of France, we've heard a bit of Bulgaria, we've even heard of, you know, the American plumbers, etcetera. You know? But the books are set in England.

Laura: Plumbers?

Eric: This is an English book.

Micah: Well, I think it goes back to what Laura was talking about earlier, and sort of the whole, only certain things can only happen on certain days, and maybe there's a connection with that symbol. Maybe that symbol, its effect is sort of transporting them somewhere else. Does that make sense? I mean, this symbol is tied in...

Laura: Yeah, I definitely agree.

Micah: ...somehow. It's too coincidental.

Laura: There is. The more we see of the cover art coming out and you know, the emphasis on times of day and the sky is really, really intriguing, because you've got to consider that – it's got to play a huge role. I mean, they wouldn't be putting such an emphasis on it if it wasn't.

Micah: What do you think about the U.K. edition?

The Sky

Ben: What do you mean, what do you mean? Wait a minute. Explain what you mean.

Laura: Well, you just see such a big emphasis on the sky. Like, in the U.S. cover, for instance, Harry and Voldemort are both reaching up towards the sky. They are both looking up towards the sky. In the U.K. version, you can see the same color from the sky through the archway on the cover and here, again, you see the same kind of colored sky and they are all looking off into the distance.

Ben: That isn't saying that it's enormously significant.

Laura: Yes, but then, it does, though, because even with his description, he described it as - he was talking about a sunset and it just seems like they're putting more of an emphasis on the sky than they ever did before. You never really heard about that.

Jamie: It's not some pathetic fallacy.

Laura: Yeah. Well, not to mention you always hear about, in the books, you know, the "blood-red sky." There is always some sort of description of it and it seems like...

Ben: Well, yeah, there's a description of the sky, but hat doesn't necessarily mean that it relates to the plot. I mean, the sun could be setting...

Laura: I think it could though because of the symbol.

Ben: It could, yeah.

Laura: Tying together with the symbol and what it could mean.

Eric: Weird. If – yeah.

Micah: There was an e-mail today, I guess, that brought up an interesting quote from Book 1 saying, "Well, look at the sky, and look at what one of the centaurs said back in Book 1 about Mars being bright tonight." And could that, sort of, redness be what is lighting up the sky.

Eric: Red and Mars and pink and purple and azure – well, azure is blue, but....

Micah: Well, you got the point, I mean.

Eric: No, no, it seems like, if anything would be related to the sky, it would be Book 7. I just don't know what kind of reference it would be. I mean, we need to - here we are presented with souls and things like that that are very, you know, earthbound or spiritual, and now we are talking about the sky and how that relates to Harry Potter and it is an open-ended question because - I don't think we know enough. I mean, it just – it could be anything.

A Different Prophecy

Ben: Right. Yeah. Okay, I have a quick question, though, guys. This is related to Book 7, not necessarily the sky or anything on the cover, but something that really wasn't cleared up that I haven't really heard much discussion about was in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix towards the end in the Department of Mysteries, when all of the prophecies get smashed, we hear one prophecy that was, like, an old man saying, “At the solstice will come a new,” and this lady who says, “And none will come after,” and it's in italicized font. Now, do you guys have any thoughts on what that is? I mean I know it's unrelated, but...

Jamie: We talked about this.... Lara: Yeah, we did talk about it a while back....

Jamie: We talked about how it could be the book because it was talking about Book 7 and....

Ben: Right.

Jamie: .... and the summer solstice. Actually, Micah, didn't...

Ben: The summer solstice is on June 21st, not July.

Jamie: Sorry? Oh no, I know. But....

Ben: The summer solstice is June 21st....

Jamie: Micah, you had a theory....

Ben: ....Order of the Phoenix was June 21st.

Jamie:....didn't you? About it being October or December? Something like that? Just to completely put you on the spot here.

Micah: No, I don't think, didn't she release the date on the winter solstice? Or she released something.

Jamie: Yes, she did, that's it, yeah. November 21st, wasn't it?

Micah: No, December.

Ben: Right, but don't you think it's actually going to play a role in the series rather than it being a thing that happened in real life, like, the book was announced on that day?

Eric: Well, it doesn't have to. But, I mean, Laura, when you were talking about specific dates and specific times of days, I was thinking about Halloween, you know, All Hallow's Eve, the one day of the year when all of the souls can come back. It's just that kind of similar idea.

Laura: I don't know. I just always found it somewhat interesting. I think that there is an emphasis put on specific times of the year and what might be going on during those days because, for instance, in the prophecy, it talks about Harry being born as the seventh month dies while if you think about Voldemort he is born as the year dies, December 31st. So...

Eric: A lot of death and birth in life.

Laura: Yeah, yeah.

Jamie: That does tend to happen.

Eric: Yeah.

[Everyone laughs]

Laura: Not necessarily in that order.

Back to the Sky

Micah: Do you guys think - the sun does appear to be setting. I know Andrew brought this up before, but in the U.S. edition it appears to be fully in the sky, so can we....

Andrew: It does?

Micah: You don't think so?

Andrew: Well, you can't see it.

Micah: I mean, it appears to be completely lit, I mean, there is light on a lot of it whereas here, it almost looks like it - this scene is taking place after what happened previously.

Andrew: Right ,because the top of this sky is a purplish blue, whereas that cover is full yellow, yeah.

Micah: Right. Could they be returning to that sort of portal area that's on the U.K. edition? Do you think they're going back to that?

Jamie: Maybe, yeah.

Laura: You know what this reminds me of? I don't know how many of you have seen the third Pirates of the Caribbean yet....

Micah: No.

Eric: Oh god, Laura. You raved about this. You raved about it and I raved against it.

[Laura laughs]

Jamie: Don't spoil it, don't spoil it.

Eric: It's just a bad topic amongst MuggleCasters.

Laura: It's very, very cool. It's very, very cool.They have this thing when they are coming back from the world of the dead.

Jamie: Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it, please.

Laura: Oh, fine.

Eric: Which they ripped off from every single movie and....

Laura: Oh, get over it, fine. But if you have seen it, well, I don't want to spoil it for Jamie.

Micah: Okay.

Laura: But if you've seen the movie, you understand about sunrise and sunset. It's very cool, but anyway.

Andrew: So, even if it is a dragon - well....

Jamie: It probably is. It looks exactly like one.

[Laura laughs]

Why Are They Flying?

Andrew: So, no matter what kind of dragon it is, what is the purpose of them flying on the dragon to begin with?

Micah: Getting away to wherever they are going.

Eric: They needed some air.

Ben: To go somewhere, obviously.

Andrew: Obviously, it's moving. That's like saying, why are they in bed? They're asleep. We did get an email from Sarah, 19, of Chicago. She says,

"Reading the comments..."

Jamie: Sarah – that's such a beautiful name.

Andrew: Yeah.

[Eric laughs]

Andrew: "Reading the comments, I found a few things that people looked over for cover of the deluxe edition. First of all, the town below may be Hogsmeade or Godric's Hollow, but it also be Little Hangleton or some other place of importance to Voldemort."

But here is the more interesting part that I wanted to read in the first place.

"Secondly, why the dragon? The trio is of age. Why not Apparate? My first guess would be that Hogwarts must be involved, since you are not able to Apparate to or from the castle. If this is so, then the village below could very well be Hogsmeade. Gringotts could also make sense, since we know it is a high security location, much like Hogwarts."

Laura: Well, you know what that makes me think of? Doesn't the Ministry have some sort of regulation on Apparition?

Eric: Ummm, they also have regulations on dragons, but it's – it's – you...

Laura: Yeah, but if you steal a dragon, they can't track it.

Eric: Well, nobody said that they steal it, or anything. I mean...

Jamie: They can, Laura.

Eric: Well, I think – I think that you...

Jamie: They implant them with barchips, and stuff...

Eric: You guys should think about...

Laura: I don't think they're putting [laughs]...

Eric: Okay. You guys should think about the other uses of a dragon. Cause, I mean, Harry could have – okay. Harry could use – what? Buckbeak? He could have used – they could all be flying on a hippogriff – which would be a boring cover because we've already seen it, but there are so many ways...

Laura: That could be pretty cramped, though.

Eric: ...Harry can travel. Apparation...

Micah: Broomstick.

Eric: ...broomsticks, hippogriffs...

Jamie: Floo powder...

Eric: You...

Ben: And once again...

Jamie: Aeroplane...

Ben: And once again, remember J.K. Rowling doesn't put things into the series for no reason, and we continually hear about the 12 uses of dragon's blood, yet we don't know what the 12 uses are.

Eric: Yeah, but guys – no, what I'm saying is there must be other benefits to have them on a dragon in the cover. Okay? There must be other reasons that they're flying on a dragon. Maybe they need it for protection or defense from wherever they're going, or wherever they're heading from. Ummm...

Andrew: What...

Eric: ...the dragon's...

Andrew: Whatever it is, it's an important reason, because Arthur Levine specifically asked Marie GrandPre to put it on the cover. Just a little tidbit, there. I mean, maybe he just thought it was a cool scene, granted, but...

Ben: I don't think it's a scene...

Laura: Mmmm. I think it is significant...

Ben: ...I think it's an arms race. [laughs] Aha ha!

Laura: ...definitely...

[After a pause, Andrew and Laura pretend to laugh]

Eric: Oooh! That's funny.

Andrew: I'm not a shoulder to cry...

Laura: Speaking of which...

Andrew: ...on, but I digress.

Laura: ...all the Fall Out Boy fans are...

Jamie: Dying right now.

Laura: ...very unhappy with me...

Jamie: Why?

Laura: ...over the comment I made last week, where I...

Jamie: What did you say?

Laura: Where I said their little band was stupid, but...

The Trio's Appearane

Andrew: It kind of seems like there's a lot of emphasis being placed on Hermione's cloak. Because it's the only one that's sticking up, and...

Ben: It's a Horcrux, I bet.

Andrew: ...you know, Harry's is being blown back...

[Jamie laughs]

Andrew: Yeah. Harry's is being blown back. Ron's is being blown back, but Hermione's is just up.

Laura: Yeah, but she is also lying down.

Andrew: Is she?

Laura: Yeah. Look at her.

Andrew: I guess. I have my brightness turned down...

Laura: You can see – yeah...

Andrew: My eyes are killing me. But...

Ben: Tattered – it's tattered.

Andrew: But, still, the cloak wouldn't be blowing up! I guess. It is tattered. It just seems like there is extra emphasis. Whatever. They're all just got out of something, and the dragon saved the day. Micah, any final thoughts?

Micah: No. I mean, I think we did a pretty good job. I'm sure we'll get plenty of e-mails.

Andrew: Yeah.

Eric: Plenty of e-mails. More information will come. Maybe somebody – a certain someone, Micah, might acknowledge that we got it right away, the Opaleye thing. You reckon?

Micah: Yeah. J.K. Rowling...

Eric: Yeah, maybe...

Micah: ...e-mail us, please.

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